Duchene would need to be extended first.
- Doaner19

There's zero chance Colorado makes that deal

To Ari: Duchene and Barrie
To Col: 7th, 23rd, ++??

Would be good to help fast track the Colorado rebuild, and Arizona gets two players in their prime.
- cprevost7

delete your account and take any dumb Sens fans with you like AlfiesSalad

There's zero chance Colorado makes that deal
- HB77

Avs could trade the 4th and 32nd overall picks for those picks, there is a better chance of them trading down over that dumbass Duchene Barrie proposals That guy is 100% eating paint chips

Avs could trade the 4th and 32nd overall picks for those picks, there is a better chance of them trading down over that dumbass Duchene Barrie proposals That guy is 100% eating paint chips
- DDM-Coga

It wasn't even close

It wasn't even close
- HB77

Im sure he thinks Cody Ceci is a number 1 Dman if thats his hot take on player values in this league.

What a dink face maroon

That trade to Colorado 7+23++ well the plus could be duclair and ? Couldn't it?

That trade to Colorado 7+23++ well the plus could be duclair and ? Couldn't it?
- MR.Hunter

Nope. Why in the world would the Avs even list to such an offer. What do they gain out of this? Dont get better now and could be worse off in the future bc they take so much risk in prospects, draft picks, and non consistent over hyped players like Duclair?

Unless Chychrun is involved, Avs would hang up 100 times out of 100.

Nope. Why in the world would the Avs even list to such an offer. What do they gain out of this? Dont get better now and could be worse off in the future bc they take so much risk in prospects, draft picks, and non consistent over hyped players like Duclair?

Unless Chychrun is involved, Avs would hang up 100 times out of 100.
- DDM-Coga

Not saying it was a good trade proposal but you're not getting anywhere near what sakic was asking for duchene

Not saying it was a good trade proposal but you're not getting anywhere near what sakic was asking for duchene
- HealthyScratch6

which is fine. If they aren't getting the mega package for duchene just keep him. Hes not a "bad player" who they need to get rid of.

I look at is, Duchene could be had if you want to buy him off us at high price. If not he stays with the Avs and helps the team as well. Avs need a lot of pieces and change. 1 guy or 1 trade isn't going to fix things. So if Duchene deal doesnt work out, they will be active looking at other moves outside of MacKinnon, Rantanen and Jost

But I do think Duchene is the easiest and most attractive piece they have to dangle. He might not get the "rumoured" package out there, but I think they get a nice haul for him. There is a lot of teams in Win Now modes that failed miserably this post season who might start barking up the tree now

which is fine. If they aren't getting the mega package for duchene just keep him. Hes not a "bad player" who they need to get rid of.

I look at is, Duchene could be had if you want to buy him off us at high price. If not he stays with the Avs and helps the team as well. Avs need a lot of pieces and change. 1 guy or 1 trade isn't going to fix things. So if Duchene deal doesnt work out, they will be active looking at other moves outside of MacKinnon, Rantanen and Jost

But I do think Duchene is the easiest and most attractive piece they have to dangle. He might not get the "rumoured" package out there, but I think they get a nice haul for him. There is a lot of teams in Win Now modes that failed miserably this post season who might start barking up the tree now
- DDM-Coga

There'll definitely be a lot of teams out there that will be interested in the off season that should drive up the price. Especially when you look at what hanzal got as a rental but what I would be worried about would be over pricing him and him coming back and having another bad year. If he's coming off 2 40 pt seasons with 1 year left on his contract his value will plummet.

There'll definitely be a lot of teams out there that will be interested in the off season that should drive up the price. Especially when you look at what hanzal got as a rental but what I would be worried about would be over pricing him and him coming back and having another bad year. If he's coming off 2 40 pt seasons with 1 year left on his contract his value will plummet.
- HealthyScratch6

Yeah if they hold onto him for another year and he has another bad year... sure but Duchene had a 59 pt and 30 goal 2 seasons ago, With 2 years left on his contract. I think he holds a lot of value going into this offseason. Hes no scrub, they need to tread lightly but I think they will come close to what the reported value is.

You don't judge a guy on 30 games on the teams worst team in the cap era over what he has done in his career. His value is down a bit from what he did last season but he still is Matt Duchene who is a Canada Hockey darling.

Carolina just makes the most sense. They wouldnt move Faulk, Slavin, or Pesce for him. Those 3 are too good and too established. I think Hanifin is the guy they might push out...he could be the best out of the bunch long term but hes young and never know what Dmen are until 200 some games into their careers.

Just remember Cody Ceci was considered an untouchable in his first season or 2. saying Drouin isn't enough to move him. olli matta is another example of how polarizing young D Men can be.

Islanders, Habs, Columbus, I think will be highly active in trade talks. I think Carolina will slow play them, and now I think the Capitals might get into the mix.

Yeah if they hold onto him for another year and he has another bad year... sure but Duchene had a 59 pt and 30 goal 2 seasons ago, With 2 years left on his contract. I think he holds a lot of value going into this offseason. Hes no scrub, they need to tread lightly but I think they will come close to what the reported value is.

You don't judge a guy on 30 games on the teams worst team in the cap era over what he has done in his career. His value is down a bit from what he did last season but he still is Matt Duchene who is a Canada Hockey darling.

Carolina just makes the most sense. They wouldnt move Faulk, Slavin, or Pesce for him. Those 3 are too good and too established. I think Hanifin is the guy they might push out...he could be the best out of the bunch long term but hes young and never know what Dmen are until 200 some games into their careers.

Just remember Cody Ceci was considered an untouchable in his first season or 2. saying Drouin isn't enough to move him. olli matta is another example of how polarizing young D Men can be.

Islanders, Habs, Columbus, I think will be highly active in trade talks. I think Carolina will slow play them, and now I think the Capitals might get into the mix.
- DDM-Coga

I agree your take on D. Absolute poop show. So many either never live up to their draft pedigree or come in to the league young have a solid season and fizzle out a la like a schenn. What would you want included with hanifin to make it work as I'm sure you wouldn't do a 1 for 1.

I agree your take on D. Absolute poop show. So many either never live up to their draft pedigree or come in to the league young have a solid season and fizzle out a la like a schenn. What would you want included with hanifin to make it work as I'm sure you wouldn't do a 1 for 1.
- HealthyScratch6

Duchene and Pickard for Hanifin, Lack (cap dump after Darling signing) and a kicker. I would love their 12th overall as part of the package but I dunno if thats too much and being greedy? (I really want them to draft Footes kid for PR reasons plus hes good)

Its crazy how all the Sergechev, Chabot, Carlo, McAvoy are untouchable takes are out there. Sure they have a lot of buzz around their names but so does every other team with an prospect pool. Right now I wouldnt trade anyone for nicolas meloche. But outside of Carlo..no one has played enough to get an NHL read on them. Its really a coin flip when it comes to NHL men until the 200 game mark, you really have no idea what you have until then. All the data backs that up too.

Ill take Zadorov as an example with 145 games....you already start to see what he is. A hard hitting 2nd pairing Dman with a bit of upside. Still valuable but hey he is what he is and lets not pretend anything different

Duchene and Pickard for Hanifin, Lack (cap dump after Darling signing) and a kicker. I would love their 12th overall as part of the package but I dunno if thats too much and being greedy? (I really want them to draft Footes kid for PR reasons plus hes good)

Its crazy how all the Sergechev, Chabot, Carlo, McAvoy are untouchable takes are out there. Sure they have a lot of buzz around their names but so does every other team with an prospect pool. Right now I wouldnt trade anyone for nicolas meloche. But outside of Carlo..no one has played enough to get an NHL read on them. Its really a coin flip when it comes to NHL men until the 200 game mark, you really have no idea what you have until then. All the data backs that up too.

Ill take Zadorov as an example with 145 games....you already start to see what he is. A hard hitting 2nd pairing Dman with a bit of upside. Still valuable but hey he is what he is and lets not pretend anything different
- DDM-Coga

Yeah look at some of the guys who are or have been premier d in the league like josi Keith Weber karlsson Stralman who weren't all ghat highly touted when they were drafted. Maybe not karlsson so much but he was the 7th d picked in that draft. For every doughty Hedman you get an Erik and Jack Johnson. But I think it's just so hard to find a good dman that no one wants to be the one who trades a young guy who turns out to be top pairing dman. Mcdonaugh for gomez

Duchene and Pickard for Hanifin, Lack (cap dump after Darling signing) and a kicker. I would love their 12th overall as part of the package but I dunno if thats too much and being greedy? (I really want them to draft Footes kid for PR reasons plus hes good)

Its crazy how all the Sergechev, Chabot, Carlo, McAvoy are untouchable takes are out there. Sure they have a lot of buzz around their names but so does every other team with an prospect pool. Right now I wouldnt trade anyone for nicolas meloche. But outside of Carlo..no one has played enough to get an NHL read on them. Its really a coin flip when it comes to NHL men until the 200 game mark, you really have no idea what you have until then. All the data backs that up too.

Ill take Zadorov as an example with 145 games....you already start to see what he is. A hard hitting 2nd pairing Dman with a bit of upside. Still valuable but hey he is what he is and lets not pretend anything different
- DDM-Coga

Ethan bear > Paul Coffey

@Tanner taking your Leaf analysis of in prime type players with a center to help solidly and lead youth. What about Sutter from Nucks with nice cap hit to make the floor too. For both picks sure Canucks would add in their prime mentors Sbisa and Dorset with their lovely cap hits. Add in a Rodin too to balance out talent injection. That's for fast skating vet players for two draft picks. That will give Yotes some can play now NHL prime time mentors to mix with young talent.

@Tanner taking your Leaf analysis of in prime type players with a center to help solidly and lead youth. What about Sutter from Nucks with nice cap hit to make the floor too. For both picks sure Canucks would add in their prime mentors Sbisa and Dorset with their lovely cap hits. Add in a Rodin too to balance out talent injection. That's for fast skating vet players for two draft picks. That will give Yotes some can play now NHL prime time mentors to mix with young talent.
- Nuck4U

Nope. Why in the world would the Avs even list to such an offer. What do they gain out of this? Dont get better now and could be worse off in the future bc they take so much risk in prospects, draft picks, and non consistent over hyped players like Duclair?

Unless Chychrun is involved, Avs would hang up 100 times out of 100.
- DDM-Coga

Because they don't seem to be very good at hockeying and dont seem to be well managed. From the outside, it appears they are going backwards after recently picking 1,2,3,10,10 in the last 8 years

@Tanner taking your Leaf analysis of in prime type players with a center to help solidly and lead youth. What about Sutter from Nucks with nice cap hit to make the floor too. For both picks sure Canucks would add in their prime mentors Sbisa and Dorset with their lovely cap hits. Add in a Rodin too to balance out talent injection. That's for fast skating vet players for two draft picks. That will give Yotes some can play now NHL prime time mentors to mix with young talent.
- Nuck4U

Again, no one wants Nucks players.

@Tanner taking your Leaf analysis of in prime type players with a center to help solidly and lead youth. What about Sutter from Nucks with nice cap hit to make the floor too. For both picks sure Canucks would add in their prime mentors Sbisa and Dorset with their lovely cap hits. Add in a Rodin too to balance out talent injection. That's for fast skating vet players for two draft picks. That will give Yotes some can play now NHL prime time mentors to mix with young talent.
- Nuck4U

Solid joke, but I wouldn't claim Sutter off waivers.

Nope. Why in the world would the Avs even list to such an offer. What do they gain out of this? Dont get better now and could be worse off in the future bc they take so much risk in prospects, draft picks, and non consistent over hyped players like Duclair?

Unless Chychrun is involved, Avs would hang up 100 times out of 100.
- DDM-Coga

What if Chayka sends an e-mail?

If the Coyotes need to get back up to the cap floor with Datsyuk and Pronger finally coming off the "books", they would be better served to throw money on a short term to a UFA and keep those picks. You can't compare the Toronto vets in this situation, because most of them are Leafs products that have been in the system for years.

Solid joke, but I wouldn't claim Sutter off waivers.
- James_Tanner

welll I thought your blog was a farce and you wanted similar responses. But your Yote NHL best youth claims aside. You might need Sutters big brass balls, his claim, as that's not covered in analytics. You know to help them kids to the candy store for some suckers.

Again, no one wants Nucks players.
- walshyleafsfan

No one wants Laff players either. Rude awakening brewing for Lafnation in 2017. The Avs say hello.

No one wants Laff players either. Rude awakening brewing for Lafnation in 2017. The Avs say hello.
- Nuck4U

Sounds like another case of Blue Envy out there. Seems to be spreading throughout the socialist mecca of Sh!tt!sh Bullumbia.