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StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Oct 14 @ 9:30 PM ET
Let’s see what lines Q sends out now - I saw Hartman with Wingels and Bouma at the end of the first, didn’t notice any other switch.
kinigitt
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: kahnawake, QC
Joined: 11.16.2015

Oct 14 @ 9:31 PM ET
Again, talking about Kane. ]

Though, no offense, the fact that you guys don't seem to know simple facts like who has lead the team in powerplay points per game every year is kind of baffling to me. I feel like that's common sense.

- L_B_R


Well excuuuuse me.

Keith does get a lot of PP points, and he plays every one. He's missed very little time due to injury, and he's been on the hawks longer. I didn't have stat sheets in front of me. We can't all be smart like you.

Not offended, I just feel dumb. Nothing new.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Oct 14 @ 9:32 PM ET
Again, talking about Kane. ]

Though, no offense, the fact that you guys don't seem to know simple facts like who has lead the team in powerplay points per game every year is kind of baffling to me. I feel like that's common sense.

- L_B_R


Btw common sense mode is gone during a game, i Am completely in passionate and reactionary mode
L_B_R
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.23.2014

Oct 14 @ 9:32 PM ET
Keith has been: viewed as the best option on power play over the years

Keith is not: resembling a power play qb. Does not get shots on net. Should be replaced on pp. Keith I do not really like him even on 2nd unit. But Q can't understand. And no matter who teaches the power play, they seem to do the same old. Team's challenging us, not afraid of us.

It is only going to get worse. Whether it all heeps up right away, or the team manages to play .500 but get consistently outplayed

Look the talent is not bad. You can like some thi by a about the personnel. But they play like they do not know what to do, or do not care. Stubbornness. Coaching strategy. SOMETHING IS WRONG. MAYBE INSUDERS KNOW THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEMS. P LURAL: PROBLEMS

- jhawk59

Le sigh.
ArlingtonRob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 230 years was a good run, IL
Joined: 01.20.2012

Oct 14 @ 9:35 PM ET
He is earning his 6 mil. I mean for that salary, he needs to step up like this when the team needs him to IMO.
- breadbag


His resume backs up his salary.
kinigitt
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: kahnawake, QC
Joined: 11.16.2015

Oct 14 @ 9:35 PM ET
Le sigh.
- L_B_R


Is there room on your spaceship?
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Oct 14 @ 9:35 PM ET
What I notice about Kane on the powerplay now compared to previously, he hasn't been walking off the halfboards and taking shots nearly as much. He has a grand total of 2 PP shots on goal this year and often we'd see him get 2 on net in one 2 minute penalty. I know from watching that teams are blocking or tipping a lot of passes over to Kane. When he does have the puck he has been doing a lot of those interchanges with Keith.
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Oct 14 @ 9:36 PM ET
His resume backs up his salary.
- ArlingtonRob


Oh, he has done well before, but I'm saying for his salary you have to expect him to carry the load at times.
L_B_R
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.23.2014

Oct 14 @ 9:37 PM ET
Well excuuuuse me.

Keith does get a lot of PP points, and he plays every one. He's missed very little time due to injury, and he's been on the hawks longer. I didn't have stat sheets in front of me. We can't all be smart like you.

Not offended, I just feel dumb. Nothing new.

- kinigitt

Man, don't feel dumb - I'm just cranky cause I'm sick and I felt like that was common knowledge. And tbf I was slightly wrong - Kane was not the PPP/GP leader one year, in 2011-12. I try to block out that year mostly.
kinigitt
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: kahnawake, QC
Joined: 11.16.2015

Oct 14 @ 9:38 PM ET
Man, don't feel dumb - I'm just cranky cause I'm sick and I felt like that was common knowledge. And tbf I was slightly wrong - Kane was not the PPP/GP leader one year, in 2011-12. I try to block out that year mostly.
- L_B_R


All good
L_B_R
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.23.2014

Oct 14 @ 9:39 PM ET
What I notice about Kane on the powerplay now compared to previously, he hasn't been walking off the halfboards and taking shots nearly as much. He has a grand total of 2 PP shots on goal this year and often we'd see him get 2 on net in one 2 minute penalty. I know from watching that teams are blocking or tipping a lot of passes over to Kane. When he does have the puck he has been doing a lot of those interchanges with Keith.
- breadbag

Kane actually doesn't shoot that much on the PP for a guy who gets a lot of PPP, though he should definitely have more than two shots this many games in. The first unit needs to give the other team another player to focus on beyond Kane. Toews and he used to cycle down low so well idk why they don't try that more.

Saad or Panik in front of the net, Toews-Kane cycling with Seabrook on the point. The hard part is that the first PK units often are the more aggressive so teams like to have their best defender on there, hence Keith.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Oct 14 @ 9:39 PM ET
They pass so well on the power play
ArlingtonRob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 230 years was a good run, IL
Joined: 01.20.2012

Oct 14 @ 9:40 PM ET
This PP...both units...are just a waste of time. They're a mess.
kinigitt
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: kahnawake, QC
Joined: 11.16.2015

Oct 14 @ 9:41 PM ET
Johansen wants his face broken
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Oct 14 @ 9:42 PM ET
This PP...both units...are just a waste of time. They're a mess.
- ArlingtonRob


Need to go to the net, it's pretty simple
ArlingtonRob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 230 years was a good run, IL
Joined: 01.20.2012

Oct 14 @ 9:46 PM ET
Need to go to the net, it's pretty simple
- BetweenTheDots


Agreed, but...
...the occasional clean zone entry would be nice...and perhaps an accurate pass with some mustard on it.
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Oct 14 @ 9:47 PM ET
Kane actually doesn't shoot that much on the PP for a
guy who gets a lot of PPP, though he should definitely have more than two shots this many games in. The first unit needs to give the other team another player to focus on beyond Kane.

- L_B_R


Well, in the last few seasons Kane has been shooting more and it was paying off. He was #1 for the Hawks in PP shots in the last two seasons. Kane has been getting his typical PP minutes per game. The other thing is Sharp getting time over Seabrook and Seabrook has 0 shots on goal. Sharp hasn't exactly been great on the Powerplay either in getting that time instead of Seabrook on the first unit.

L_B_R
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.23.2014

Oct 14 @ 9:48 PM ET
So do you feel Keith should be on the pp?
- BetweenTheDots

I don't know if I like Keith and Kane together anymore, no. The problem is that coaches typically like to have their best defender on the 1st unit because the PKers they face are typically the one most likely to be able to score a SHG. Seabrook is more useful imo as a point / shot man. I'd mix up the forward personnel a bit more - Saad/Panik in front of the net so Kane could cycle with Toews down low like they used to be prone to do before Panarin came around.
matt_ahrens
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Carlos, CA
Joined: 06.30.2014

Oct 14 @ 9:49 PM ET
I guess we'll get to see how DeBrincat deals with physical play tonight. He's taken some hits.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Oct 14 @ 9:51 PM ET
This PP...both units...are just a waste of time. They're a mess.
- ArlingtonRob

Hey Rob,
Thought I would interject positive news.
Rockford leading, 5-4, in third period vs depleted Wild roster due to injuries Wild suffered against us a couple nights ago
Highmore has two goals. Press in lineup after MIA for unknown reason in first game.
matt_ahrens
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Carlos, CA
Joined: 06.30.2014

Oct 14 @ 9:51 PM ET
I'd like to Q turn on the blender a bit and put Sharp out there with Kane and Hartman.
SimpleJack
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago , IL
Joined: 05.23.2013

Oct 14 @ 9:56 PM ET
I'm just going to back out of here during game days. Y'all are the most hot-take reactionary bunch after the shortest time period ever lol.
- L_B_R


Preds look like they're playing with an extra gear of speed, maybe 2 extra gears. Its embarrassing at times and a miracle that they haven't scored yet.

kinigitt
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: kahnawake, QC
Joined: 11.16.2015

Oct 14 @ 9:58 PM ET
Not a trip?
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Oct 14 @ 9:58 PM ET
Really no trip call? Unbelievable
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Oct 14 @ 9:58 PM ET
Preds look like they're playing with an extra gear of speed, maybe 2 extra gears. Its embarrassing at times and a miracle that they haven't scored yet.
- SimpleJack


You know what I think it is, the Preds are better at making the puck do the work. I.e. they are moving the puck much faster and forcing the Hawks to chase them more.
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