I’m just genuinely curious lol


Also, feel free to keep it as vague as you’d like, but what is the “sexual abuse narrative”?
- Nucker101

The answer is Bloated sent the first message.

Its simpler than it turned out. I'm now defending against multiple claims that are meant to deflect from the original message. In debating circles it's called a "Gish Gallop Falsity". Overwhelm with nonsense to deflect from what cant be defended against.

He sends a the Sob Story message during his melt down with Don. He accuses me of playing the victim and a few sentences later references sexual abuse. There is no other so called victimization referenced so it speaks for itself. You can go back 3 or 4 threads and see it or he can post it again. Now he may have been assuming sexual abuse at the time. The fact is I only accused him of attacking personal stuff about my childhood in the threads. Never anything to do with sexual abuse? Do you remember me ever claiming sexual abuse? Do you ever remember me accusing him of targeting sexual abuse before any of this? You have to admit... his story really doesnt add up at all does it? Everyone vaguely knows about my useless parents and their neglect... but sexual abuse? WTF???? My father is my best friend. I spend all my spare time with him. He's pretty much the only important person in my life now. I would have beat him near death by the time I was 18 if he did anything to me like that. It's insulting. Only Bloated is capable of this game. He is playing you and everyone else. trapped in his own web.

The answer is Bloated sent the first message.

Its simpler than it turned out. I'm now defending against multiple claims that are meant to deflect from the original message. In debating circles it's called a "Gish Gallop Falsity". Overwhelm with nonsense to deflect from what cant be defended against.

He sends a the Sob Story message during his melt down with Don. He accuses me of playing the victim and a few sentences later references sexual abuse. There is no other so called victimization referenced so it speaks for itself. You can go back 3 or 4 threads and see it or he can post it again. Now he may have been assuming sexual abuse at the time. The fact is I only accused him of attacking personal stuff about my childhood in the threads. Never anything to do with sexual abuse? Do you remember me ever claiming sexual abuse? Do you ever remember me accusing him of targeting sexual abuse before any of this? You have to admit... his story really doesnt add up at all does it? Everyone vaguely knows about my useless parents and their neglect... but sexual abuse? WTF???? My father is my best friend. I spend all my spare time with him. He's pretty much the only important person in my life now. I would have beat him near death by the time I was 18 if he did anything to me like that. It's insulting. Only Bloated is capable of this game. He is playing you and everyone else. trapped in his own web.
- boonerbuck

You said "literally" which means - in a literal manner or sense; exactly.
That means you 100% believed your interpretation of the situation.

You were wrong. dead wrong. Is it possible you were wrong about everything else you assumed was accurate?

Here's the post that started the whole poopshow again:



https://www.hockeybuzz.co...p?thread_id=158898&page=4

The actual (not literal) quote was:

Stop it. This is the internet. You can be anything you want to be. You can be king kong for (frank) sake. No need to post personal information.

Again, falsely accused me of something I said. How is this even an argument?
- bloatedmosquito

So you omit the reference to sexual assault again in your defense even though it's in the message you keep posting.

I have two young boys so sexual abuse is something I would never ridicule anyone over.

A message titled Sob Story. You are shaming me for playing the victim. The only thing you reference is sexual abuse. There is no former discussion or mention of sexual abuse in private or the threads by me... just your ongoing personal attacks... nothing else. Why are you pushing sexual abuse then?

You just go in circles. This is twice now you posted the message and then just continue denying whats in there.

Explanation for the comment and line up the dates of all this please.

Thanks again Nucker.

Moby Richard

Chapter 11 - Nightgown

We had lain thus in bed, chatting and napping at short intervals, and Queequeg now and then affectionately throwing his brown tattooed legs over mine, and then drawing them back; so entirely sociable and free and easy were we; when, at last, by reason of our confabulations, what little nappishness remained in us altogether departed, and we felt like getting up again, though day-break was yet some way down the future.

Yes, we became very wakeful; so much so that our recumbent position began to grow wearisome, and by little and little we found ourselves sitting up; the clothes well tucked around us, leaning against the headboard with our four knees drawn up close together, and our two noses bending over them, as if our knee-pans were warming-pans. We felt very nice and snug, the more so since it was so chilly out of doors; indeed out of bed-clothes too, seeing that there was no fire in the room. The more so, I say, because truly to enjoy bodily warmth, some small part of you must be cold, for there is no quality in this world that is not what it is merely by contrast. Nothing exists in itself. If you flatter yourself that you are all over comfortable, and have been so a long time, then you cannot be said to be comfortable any more. But if, like Queequeg and me in the bed, the tip of your nose or the crown of your head be slightly chilled, why then, indeed, in the general consciousness you feel most delightfully and unmistakably warm. For this reason a sleeping apartment should never be furnished with a fire, which is one of the luxurious discomforts of the rich. For the height of this sort of deliciousness is to have nothing but the blankets between you and your snugness and the cold of the outer air. Then there you lie like the one warm spark in the heart of an arctic crystal.

We had been sitting in this crouching manner for some time, when all at once I thought I would open my eyes; for when between sheets, whether by day or by night, and whether asleep or awake, I have a way of always keeping my eyes shut, in order the more to concentrate the snugness of being in bed. Because no man can ever feel his own identity aright except his eyes be closed; as if, darkness were indeed the proper element of our essences, though light be more congenial to our clayey part. Upon opening my eyes then, and coming out of my own pleasant and self-created darkness into the imposed and coarse outer gloom of the unilluminated twelve-o'clock-at-night, I experienced a disagreeable revulsion. Nor did I at all object to the hint from Queequeg that perhaps it were best to strike a light, seeing that we were so wide awake; and besides he felt a strong desire to have a few quiet puffs from his Tomahawk. Be it said, that though I had felt such a strong repugnance to his smoking in the bed the night before, yet see how elastic our stiff prejudices grow when once love comes to bend them. For now I liked nothing better than to have Queequeg smoking by me, even in bed, because he seemed to be full of such serene household joy then. I no more felt unduly concerned for the landlord's policy of insurance. I was only alive to the condensed confidential comfortableness of sharing a pipe and a blanket with a real friend. With our shaggy jackets drawn about our shoulders, we now passed the Tomahawk from one to the other, till slowly there grew over us a blue hanging tester of smoke, illuminated by the flame of the new-lit lamp.

Whether it was that this undulating tester rolled the savage away to far distant scenes, I know not, but he now spoke of his native island; and, eager to hear his history, I begged him to go on and tell it. He gladly complied. Though at the time I but ill comprehended not a few of his words, yet subsequent disclosures, when I had become more familiar with his broken phraseology, now enable me to present the whole story such as it may prove in the mere skeleton I give.

So you omit the reference to sexual assault again in your defense even though it's in the message you keep posting.

A message titled Sob Story. You are shaming me for playing the victim. The only thing you reference is sexual abuse. There is no former discussion or mention of sexual abuse in private or the threads by me... just your ongoing personal attacks... nothing else. Why are you pushing sexual abuse then?

You just go in circles. This is twice now you posted the message and then just continue denying whats in there.

Explanation for the comment and line up the dates of all this please.

Thanks again Nucker.
- boonerbuck

Booner, answer the question. Was your statement:

Bullpoop. You literally said "You can be anything you want on the internet, why be the guy who was sexually assaulted as a child"

correct or incorrect? Simple Yes or No will do.

You said "literally" which means - in a literal manner or sense; exactly.
That means you 100% believed your interpretation of the situation.

You were wrong. dead wrong. Is it possible you were wrong about everything else you assumed was accurate?
- bloatedmosquito

I admitted I summarized more than once now so this is more misrepresentation. How is summarizing "literal" quotes? If you are denying my summarization,,, why is the message titled "Sob Story"? Why is the only theme mentioned "sexual abuse"? Why are you going on about me being able to pretend anything I want?

Explanation on the comment and line up the dates for us please.

My guess is you only looked at the dates after you spun your version and busted yourself.

Booner, answer the question. Was your statement:

Bullpoop. You literally said "You can be anything you want on the internet, why be the guy who was sexually assaulted as a child"

correct or incorrect? Simple Yes or No will do.
- bloatedmosquito

No need to keep pressing something I corrected multiple times. I said I was guilty of summarizing more than once. It's a distraction and splitting hairs. More Gish Gallop.

Why were you referencing sexual abuse and please post the dates and times of your quotes on Lefty, Sob Story and the other cut and pastes that were out of order?

You just dont want people to see the order and how many months separate your lies. You dont want people to see that Sob Story was the first mention of it.

You are in over your head. Here, let me throw you an anvil.

Moby Richard

Chapter 11 - Nightgown

We had lain thus in bed, chatting and napping at short intervals, and Queequeg now and then affectionately throwing his brown tattooed legs over mine, and then drawing them back; so entirely sociable and free and easy were we; when, at last, by reason of our confabulations, what little nappishness remained in us altogether departed, and we felt like getting up again, though day-break was yet some way down the future.

Yes, we became very wakeful; so much so that our recumbent position began to grow wearisome, and by little and little we found ourselves sitting up; the clothes well tucked around us, leaning against the headboard with our four knees drawn up close together, and our two noses bending over them, as if our knee-pans were warming-pans. We felt very nice and snug, the more so since it was so chilly out of doors; indeed out of bed-clothes too, seeing that there was no fire in the room. The more so, I say, because truly to enjoy bodily warmth, some small part of you must be cold, for there is no quality in this world that is not what it is merely by contrast. Nothing exists in itself. If you flatter yourself that you are all over comfortable, and have been so a long time, then you cannot be said to be comfortable any more. But if, like Queequeg and me in the bed, the tip of your nose or the crown of your head be slightly chilled, why then, indeed, in the general consciousness you feel most delightfully and unmistakably warm. For this reason a sleeping apartment should never be furnished with a fire, which is one of the luxurious discomforts of the rich. For the height of this sort of deliciousness is to have nothing but the blankets between you and your snugness and the cold of the outer air. Then there you lie like the one warm spark in the heart of an arctic crystal.

We had been sitting in this crouching manner for some time, when all at once I thought I would open my eyes; for when between sheets, whether by day or by night, and whether asleep or awake, I have a way of always keeping my eyes shut, in order the more to concentrate the snugness of being in bed. Because no man can ever feel his own identity aright except his eyes be closed; as if, darkness were indeed the proper element of our essences, though light be more congenial to our clayey part. Upon opening my eyes then, and coming out of my own pleasant and self-created darkness into the imposed and coarse outer gloom of the unilluminated twelve-o'clock-at-night, I experienced a disagreeable revulsion. Nor did I at all object to the hint from Queequeg that perhaps it were best to strike a light, seeing that we were so wide awake; and besides he felt a strong desire to have a few quiet puffs from his Tomahawk. Be it said, that though I had felt such a strong repugnance to his smoking in the bed the night before, yet see how elastic our stiff prejudices grow when once love comes to bend them. For now I liked nothing better than to have Queequeg smoking by me, even in bed, because he seemed to be full of such serene household joy then. I no more felt unduly concerned for the landlord's policy of insurance. I was only alive to the condensed confidential comfortableness of sharing a pipe and a blanket with a real friend. With our shaggy jackets drawn about our shoulders, we now passed the Tomahawk from one to the other, till slowly there grew over us a blue hanging tester of smoke, illuminated by the flame of the new-lit lamp.

Whether it was that this undulating tester rolled the savage away to far distant scenes, I know not, but he now spoke of his native island; and, eager to hear his history, I begged him to go on and tell it. He gladly complied. Though at the time I but ill comprehended not a few of his words, yet subsequent disclosures, when I had become more familiar with his broken phraseology, now enable me to present the whole story such as it may prove in the mere skeleton I give.Chapter 11 - Nightgown
A picture for the book Moby-Richard; or, The Whale

We had lain thus in bed, chatting and napping at short intervals, and Queequeg now and then affectionately throwing his brown tattooed legs over mine, and then drawing them back; so entirely sociable and free and easy were we; when, at last, by reason of our confabulations, what little nappishness remained in us altogether departed, and we felt like getting up again, though day-break was yet some way down the future.

Yes, we became very wakeful; so much so that our recumbent position began to grow wearisome, and by little and little we found ourselves sitting up; the clothes well tucked around us, leaning against the headboard with our four knees drawn up close together, and our two noses bending over them, as if our knee-pans were warming-pans. We felt very nice and snug, the more so since it was so chilly out of doors; indeed out of bed-clothes too, seeing that there was no fire in the room. The more so, I say, because truly to enjoy bodily warmth, some small part of you must be cold, for there is no quality in this world that is not what it is merely by contrast. Nothing exists in itself. If you flatter yourself that you are all over comfortable, and have been so a long time, then you cannot be said to be comfortable any more. But if, like Queequeg and me in the bed, the tip of your nose or the crown of your head be slightly chilled, why then, indeed, in the general consciousness you feel most delightfully and unmistakably warm. For this reason a sleeping apartment should never be furnished with a fire, which is one of the luxurious discomforts of the rich. For the height of this sort of deliciousness is to have nothing but the blankets between you and your snugness and the cold of the outer air. Then there you lie like the one warm spark in the heart of an arctic crystal.

We had been sitting in this crouching manner for some time, when all at once I thought I would open my eyes; for when between sheets, whether by day or by night, and whether asleep or awake, I have a way of always keeping my eyes shut, in order the more to concentrate the snugness of being in bed. Because no man can ever feel his own identity aright except his eyes be closed; as if, darkness were indeed the proper element of our essences, though light be more congenial to our clayey part. Upon opening my eyes then, and coming out of my own pleasant and self-created darkness into the imposed and coarse outer gloom of the unilluminated twelve-o'clock-at-night, I experienced a disagreeable revulsion. Nor did I at all object to the hint from Queequeg that perhaps it were best to strike a light, seeing that we were so wide awake; and besides he felt a strong desire to have a few quiet puffs from his Tomahawk. Be it said, that though I had felt such a strong repugnance to his smoking in the bed the night before, yet see how elastic our stiff prejudices grow when once love comes to bend them. For now I liked nothing better than to have Queequeg smoking by me, even in bed, because he seemed to be full of such serene household joy then. I no more felt unduly concerned for the landlord's policy of insurance. I was only alive to the condensed confidential comfortableness of sharing a pipe and a blanket with a real friend. With our shaggy jackets drawn about our shoulders, we now passed the Tomahawk from one to the other, till slowly there grew over us a blue hanging tester of smoke, illuminated by the flame of the new-lit lamp.

Whether it was that this undulating tester rolled the savage away to far distant scenes, I know not, but he now spoke of his native island; and, eager to hear his history, I begged him to go on and tell it. He gladly complied. Though at the time I but ill comprehended not a few of his words, yet subsequent disclosures, when I had become more familiar with his broken phraseology, now enable me to present the whole story such as it may prove in the mere skeleton I give.
- A_SteamingLombardi

- Codes1087

Gonna have to open the "literal" "sob story" "sexual abuse" thread.

I'll fight the winner!

I'll fight the winner!
- chompsey

you have your own battle with Troy going on Chompsey

you have your own battle with Troy going on Chompsey


- Codes1087

Do I? Where? I need to catch up!

Do I? Where? I need to catch up!
- chompsey

i just made it up, but you still gotta drop the gloves with him.

i just made it up, but you still gotta drop the gloves with him.
- Codes1087

Anytime! Anywhere!

Mortal Combat female doges!

No need to keep pressing something I corrected multiple times. I said I was guilty of summarizing more than once. It's a distraction and splitting hairs. More Gish Gallop.

Why were you referencing sexual abuse and please post the dates and times of your quotes on Lefty, Sob Story and the other cut and pastes that were out of order?

You just dont want people to see the order and how many months separate your lies. You dont want people to see that Sob Story was the first mention of it.

You are in over your head. Here, let me throw you an anvil.

- boonerbuck

I do want people to know how simple you are. And the fact that you lie and call it summarizing. The squirrels, racoons, and trout that you live with might accept that horse poop but I don't.

Check out page 3 of this thread...

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...p?thread_id=157630&page=3

I supplied the dates of the PM in the thread where you rekindled this fabrication:

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...p?thread_id=158898&page=4

All you have to do is go to the "archive" tab under Carol's name and click on those dates to relive the fun. That's all I've done is cut, paste, and link. You've done poop, other than what you always do... whine and play the victim.

For the PMs, just go into your Received or Sent folders and click on our PM exchange. Mine goes back to Oct 2015 so they must be there on yours. Or are you such a raving lunatic that your PM list doesn't have messages sent as little as two years ago?

I do want people to know how simple you are. And the fact that you lie and call it summarizing. The squirrels, racoons, and trout that you live with might accept that horse poop but I don't.

Check out page 3 of this thread...

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...p?thread_id=157630&page=3

I supplied the dates of the PM in the thread where you rekindled this fabrication:

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...p?thread_id=158898&page=4

All you have to do is go to the "archive" tab under Carol's name and click on those dates to relive the fun. That's all I've done is cut, paste, and link. You've done poop, other than what you always do... whine and play the victim.

For the PMs, just go into your Received or Sent folders and click on our PM exchange. Mine goes back to Oct 2015 so they must be there on yours. Or are you such a raving lunatic that your PM list doesn't have messages sent as little as two years ago?


- bloatedmosquito

Link to this thread doesnt support nothing.

2nd link is dead and supports nothing.

Great proof.


Still caught in your web.

So why did you send the "Sob Story" message referencing sexual abuse? You keep dodging it. Line up the dates. Show us the actual dates on Lefty, Sob Story and these replies I sent to you. They back me not you... Screen shot so you cant edit a cut and paste. I keep insisting so I'm not hiding from the facts here.

You have no problem with repeating yourself so if you claim it's legit? You had wall to wall balls before I pointed out the discrepancies in the order of what you were claiming. Now its all too much to bother with? Really?

Weak.

Link to this thread doesnt support nothing.

2nd link is dead and supports nothing.

Great proof.


Still caught in your web.
- boonerbuck

Sigh

March 2017 and November 2017 and April 2019 for thread battles (actual dates in those threads).
October 2017 and November 2017 for PM exchanges (just press the PM title to open the text body).

Creepy thing is, I've sent you three emails; Sob Story; re: Sob Story; and New Blog Up. The last one (Nov 28th, 2017) was a tolerable exchange between us. So somewhere between then and now you've generated this rage.

I never ridiculed or mocked like you falsely stated or "summarized". You are the one that keeps bringing in into the main thread. Not once have I ever mentioned anything about your personal life other than 'stop bringing this poop into the main thread' and 'stop playing the victim' even if you have to fake it.

Like someone pointed out, you mentioned it like 77 times now. I referenced it once in a personal PM/plea to you to keep your baggage to yourself.

Carols Apr 3 @ 2:18 PM ET blog is where you brought it up out of nowhere (page 4):
https://www.hockeybuzz.co...p?thread_id=158898&page=4

So why did you send the "Sob Story" message referencing sexual abuse? You keep dodging it. Line up the dates. Show us the actual dates on Lefty, Sob Story and these replies I sent to you. They back me not you... Screen shot so you cant edit a cut and paste. I keep insisting so I'm not hiding from the facts here.

You have no problem with repeating yourself

so if you claim it's legit? You had wall to wall balls before I pointed out the discrepancies in the order of what you were claiming. Now its all too much to bother with? Really?

Weak.
- boonerbuck

**********

You proved exactly what I said when you posted the message. What am I lying about? I'm guilty of summarizing and thats it.

Message titled "Sob Story". Opens up saying "I can be anything I want, why be the victim?"

Victim of what Bloated?

Couple sentences later you reference "sexual abuse".

Unreal... you totally trapped yourself and keep lying.

Explain to your audience why you are referencing sexual abuse? I never made that claim. It never happened. Where the hell does that come from and why the hell do you keep denying you are accusing me of playing the sexual abuse victim when its all in your message you sent me?

Look at the growing list of people supporting you sending that to me. Crazy. You all think that is acceptable?

Bloated, I use to think you had a broken moral compass. Now its clear... you never had one.
- boonerbuck

So you are pushing Bloated's sexual abuse narrative now as well. How many times do I have to deny it?

Good job Bloated. Goof.
- boonerbuck

Why are you sending me messages accusing me of playing the victim of sexual abuse? Just answer the (frank)ing question? WHY???? Why are you mentioning sexual abuse at all? Where did that come from? You posted the message on the main thread yourself.

You are tangled in your own web. You were not even aware you referenced it for everyone to see in the message you posted in your defence. Every time I ask you to explain why you are referencing it, you just call me a liar.

You seem to forget you requested to air this out in the forum threads.... now that you trapped yourself... not so much right?


You had a decent out on this but you blew it. You could have said you made a ridiculous assumption about my childhood and should have never said any of that but instead you accused me of making it up. Now that you busted yourself, you pretty much have nowhere to go but lower. If you were half as smart as you think you are you wouldnt have doubled down on your bullpoop.

Before you bark out liar... please explain why you are referencing sexual abuse in a message titled "Sob Story" that's accusing me playing the victim? Or you can avoid that for the 6th or 7th time and stick your other foot in your mouth.
- boonerbuck

Wow, could you corner yourself any worse? Since I'm denying what you say about my childhood... how could I be fishing for sympathy? You cant even stick to the same narrative. You can't play it both ways.

...and you did it again. OK, 8th time...If I'm lying, why are you referencing sexual assault in a message titled Sob Story where you are shaming me for playing the victim???

Where did all that bravery go from before you outed yourself?



- boonerbuck

Ever since? lol... a couple of threads ago you mean???? Holy poop... you are shameless. I let all this go until recently when you started getting on your soap box again about the way I post and private messages. My response was you have no right after the sexual abuse message you had previously sent me... and here we are... you trying to lie your way out of it after you posted the old message yourself a couple of blogs ago.

Lefty? Hold on, this is all fabrication by you. This doesnt go back to Lefty and a argument 2 years ago... this goes back to your blow out with Don when you sent me the message you later posted on the threads yourself called "Sob Story". You originally sent that to me many weeks after my argument with Lefty. You are rewriting everything you liar. I havent accused you of saying this about me in the threads... in private.

I only explained to Lefty why I didnt finish school and you took it to yourself to keep pushing the narrative that I was looking for pitty. It went from my parents not being able to provide me with a home at times in my childhood to your narrative of me being sexually abused. You posted the original message you sent just a couple of threads ago.

For the 9th time, what lead to you sending me a message titled "Sob" story with you accusing me of playing the victim of what you reference as sexual abuse? I've never made this claim. It never happened. You keep denying and trying to write a new story involving other people in a different time with conversations that never happened on the forum. You are a real piece of work. Your lying after you outed yourself only proves how stupid you think everyone is.
- boonerbuck

Exactly although its just one. Thank you Nucker. Keep this question front and center. He keeps dodging it even though he posted his old "Sob Story" message in Carols blog just a week or so ago. He references sexual abuse in it. Why? I never made this claim. I never implied it. I never accused him of implying this or otherwise in the thread until a week or two ago. So why is he in my face about it in 2017? Where does that come from? Somehow he's trying to link my useless parents not being able to keep a roof over my head to sexual abuse and me trying to collect pitty over it.

The guy is lying all over the place on this. I've stayed on point...
- boonerbuck

What does this have to do with anything?

"Lefty, tell me more about being a bully. The other night, you are cracking off about my education and calling me names all on your own... I knew sharing why I had to leave school on this board might draw out a classless act or two but I was surprised you are the only one so far. If I hit a wall in our arguments, I wouldn't reach down that low. I couldn't finish school because of the abuse at home... and at times we didn't even have a home. How many people here lived in a car at times when they we 11 or 12? I guess that will be the next thing you target when you can't win an argument... shame me for the poop out of my control when I was a kid.

I know you don't share much on here... but imagine if cracks were made about the complications your daughter may have in life from her injury for example... I was nothing but supportive like everyone else on here... I wouldn't pick that scab."

How does this lead to you sending me a message referencing sexual assault? This wasnt even the even discussion. Roll forward 6 weeks when you lost your poop with Don and you guys were talking about meeting somewhere to fight. You lashed out at me and soon after you sent the "Sob Story" message with the sexual abuse narrative. Nice try. Different argument, different people and a different time.

When you started after me on the lefty argument above, I did not respond to it. You kept the "pitty" shaming going for 6 weeks until I finally tore you apart for it. Thats when you sent that message... and I still didnt open that for a couple of months because the title ":Sob Story" obviously meant it was a troll message.... so my response to that is months after the lefty thing.

You really are a piece of work. You covered a lie with multiple lies.
- boonerbuck

Holy poop. We dint talk after Lefty at all. Not in private or on the thread. I ignored the 6 weeks of trolling that followed because I was told to but eventually I had it and took matters into my own hands. What are you talking about?

Post the time/date of the Sob story message, then this reply above about my parents, and the Lefty thread quote you posted in here as well... The dates wont match your manipulations.

So for the 10th time... why are you referencing sexual assault in a private message? Like Nucker asked... where are the sexual abuse messages? If you are implying I said anything like that... show me? You seem to have everything on file... but so far it all supports what I've said. Show me one reference to sexual abuse that is not your own and not a reply to your narrative like what you just posted.

Don will remember the melt down you guys had and how it ended with me tearing you a new lie hole when you lashed out with the "pitty" narrative during it. No where was there accusations of you targeting child abuse though. So how did it end up in the Sob Story message you sent that day? Why won't you answer this?


I even said in the thread after your fight with Don that I wasnt going to open a troll message titled "Sob Story"( I did a few months later). It was a stand alone message... not a reply or anything. Since you are not going to fool me with this, it's obviously targeting everyone else in here. Keep lying to everyone.
- boonerbuck

Wrong? You cornered yourself and have been shuffling messages trying your best to cover your ass. For the 11th time, why did you send the Sob Story message referencing sexual assault if I'm lying? You are trapped in your own game.

Stop with the fkn narratives about my childhood. You take me defending myself against Lefty's personal shot to complaining about my childhood. This is how it all started... you, inserting yourself in something that had absolutely nothing to do with you and rewriting everything and trying to ignite a war. Lefty and I were back to normal a few days later to your displeasure. That didnt please you so here we are 2 years later and you are still targeting this stuff and misrepresenting it.... and piling on other bullpoop.
- boonerbuck

This is crazy. I replied to your Sob Story message months after it was sent. It sat there as the first message for months and months. I openly posted in the thread that I wasn't going to open it but when I did eventually, I was blown away by what you implied/said. Now you are trying to pass off my replies as why you posted it. You are a (frank)ing liar.

Post the dates of the messages you keep referencing including the thread date of where you claim it started. There is like a 6 week gap between the Lefty thread post and the Sob Story message, then several months before I replied to it. That destroys your rewrite of all this. You are trapped in every direction you turn.
- boonerbuck

For the 12th time...

You still wont explain why you referenced sexual assault in the Sob Story message you sent me. You have nowhere to hide. Pasting me talking about being homeless as a child dosnt support it. Pasting corrections you AFTER about your assumption/or lie doesnt support it. These irrelevant cut and pastes are an attempt at deflecting and nothing else. You know you wont lie me into buying it so this is nothing more than you treating everyone else like they are total idiots.
- boonerbuck

Hysterics? The messages you pasted have me calmly explaining stuff. No insults... no outrage. Everyone can see that. Another one of your lies. One after another...




No explanation on the sexual abuse narrative. Refuses to post the dates. Has no problem coming up with old irrelevant text though and misrepresenting them. You are running a scam on everyone.
- boonerbuck

1. You did it and you even posted the message in HB less than 2 weeks ago. You cant hide from that. We all can reference it.

2. I admitted to summarizing. You've added the part "incorrectly". Another fabrication by you and it's in this thread to reference also.

3. I apologised for ripping into you after you sent the message. How does the message make any sense otherwise?. In it, I even correct you on your sexual abuse narrative,,,, calmly, politely. It's also in this thread for reference. You posted it. Now you rewrite it. Busted.

So now you are rewriting this thread as well. You really do take everyone as stupid.

Line up the message dates. Post them. Lefty first. The original Sob Story message. Then my replies. Stop playing games. None of those messages were from before the Don argument. The order of it was rewritten by you... the only reference to sexual abuse back then was by you until I corrected you. Be a (frank)ing man and stop with the lies.

You know very well a mod could destroy your rewrite. The trolling after the Lefty thing became an issue. White Lie himself went through all the messages from what I understand. I let Makita have his way and resisted tearing you down for 6 weeks when it was only 10 or so days in. I wanted to spare the group from the ugliness of what you were doing and the inevitable response you were going to get. It inevitably came the day you and Don had a melt down and you laid into me with one last shot about the pity narrative. A hour later or so, you sent the message "Sob Story". I refused to open it because of the title and I even said so in the thread. I was sick of your personal attacks of this nature. When I did open it months later, I was blown away by the nerve of you. Who sends stuff like that in private mail? Just a maggot like you.

Now you can put it to bed by posting the proper dates and order of the messages together but since it would contradict everything you are saying... you wont. You'll keep cherry picking messages out of order. Your message was a stand alone that sat there for months unanswered... not a response. Nobody but you came up with sexual abuse before that. Prove otherwise. Show me a single comment about it before the Sob Story message. I dare you to rewrite the dates... please, make my day. That would be taking what was already over the line to manipulating everyone including the mods into a lie that frames another member on here. Go for it... I would like nothing more.
- boonerbuck

The answer is Bloated sent the first message.

Its simpler than it turned out. I'm now defending against multiple claims that are meant to deflect from the original message. In debating circles it's called a "Gish Gallop Falsity". Overwhelm with nonsense to deflect from what cant be defended against.

He sends a the Sob Story message during his melt down with Don. He accuses me of playing the victim and a few sentences later references sexual abuse. There is no other so called victimization referenced so it speaks for itself. You can go back 3 or 4 threads and see it or he can post it again. Now he may have been assuming sexual abuse at the time. The fact is I only accused him of attacking personal stuff about my childhood in the threads. Never anything to do with sexual abuse? Do you remember me ever claiming sexual abuse? Do you ever remember me accusing him of targeting sexual abuse before any of this? You have to admit... his story really doesnt add up at all does it? Everyone vaguely knows about my useless parents and their neglect... but sexual abuse? WTF???? My father is my best friend. I spend all my spare time with him. He's pretty much the only important person in my life now. I would have beat him near death by the time I was 18 if he did anything to me like that. It's insulting. Only Bloated is capable of this game. He is playing you and everyone else. trapped in his own web.
- boonerbuck

So you omit the reference to sexual assault again in your defense even though it's in the message you keep posting.



A message titled Sob Story. You are shaming me for playing the victim. The only thing you reference is sexual abuse. There is no former discussion or mention of sexual abuse in private or the threads by me... just your ongoing personal attacks... nothing else. Why are you pushing sexual abuse then?

You just go in circles. This is twice now you posted the message and then just continue denying whats in there.

Explanation for the comment and line up the dates of all this please.

Thanks again Nucker.
- boonerbuck

I admitted I summarized more than once now so this is more misrepresentation. How is summarizing "literal" quotes? If you are denying my summarization,,, why is the message titled "Sob Story"? Why is the only theme mentioned "sexual abuse"? Why are you going on about me being able to pretend anything I want?

Explanation on the comment and line up the dates for us please.

My guess is you only looked at the dates after you spun your version and busted yourself.
- boonerbuck

No need to keep pressing something I corrected multiple times. I said I was guilty of summarizing more than once. It's a distraction and splitting hairs. More Gish Gallop.

Why were you referencing sexual abuse and please post the dates and times of your quotes on Lefty, Sob Story and the other cut and pastes that were out of order?

You just dont want people to see the order and how many months separate your lies. You dont want people to see that Sob Story was the first mention of it.

You are in over your head. Here, let me throw you an anvil.

- boonerbuck

So why did you send the "Sob Story" message referencing sexual abuse? You keep dodging it. Line up the dates. Show us the actual dates on Lefty, Sob Story and these replies I sent to you. They back me not you... Screen shot so you cant edit a cut and paste. I keep insisting so I'm not hiding from the facts here.

You have no problem with repeating yourself so if you claim it's legit? You had wall to wall balls before I pointed out the discrepancies in the order of what you were claiming. Now its all too much to bother with? Really?

Weak.
- boonerbuck

- A_SteamingLombardi

i think the uncivil war between the factions in carol's thread has jumped the shark.

Moby Richard

Chapter 11 - Nightgown

We had lain thus in bed, chatting and napping at short intervals, and Queequeg now and then affectionately throwing his brown tattooed legs over mine, and then drawing them back; so entirely sociable and free and easy were we; when, at last, by reason of our confabulations, what little nappishness remained in us altogether departed, and we felt like getting up again, though day-break was yet some way down the future.

Yes, we became very wakeful; so much so that our recumbent position began to grow wearisome, and by little and little we found ourselves sitting up; the clothes well tucked around us, leaning against the headboard with our four knees drawn up close together, and our two noses bending over them, as if our knee-pans were warming-pans. We felt very nice and snug, the more so since it was so chilly out of doors; indeed out of bed-clothes too, seeing that there was no fire in the room. The more so, I say, because truly to enjoy bodily warmth, some small part of you must be cold, for there is no quality in this world that is not what it is merely by contrast. Nothing exists in itself. If you flatter yourself that you are all over comfortable, and have been so a long time, then you cannot be said to be comfortable any more. But if, like Queequeg and me in the bed, the tip of your nose or the crown of your head be slightly chilled, why then, indeed, in the general consciousness you feel most delightfully and unmistakably warm. For this reason a sleeping apartment should never be furnished with a fire, which is one of the luxurious discomforts of the rich. For the height of this sort of deliciousness is to have nothing but the blankets between you and your snugness and the cold of the outer air. Then there you lie like the one warm spark in the heart of an arctic crystal.

We had been sitting in this crouching manner for some time, when all at once I thought I would open my eyes; for when between sheets, whether by day or by night, and whether asleep or awake, I have a way of always keeping my eyes shut, in order the more to concentrate the snugness of being in bed. Because no man can ever feel his own identity aright except his eyes be closed; as if, darkness were indeed the proper element of our essences, though light be more congenial to our clayey part. Upon opening my eyes then, and coming out of my own pleasant and self-created darkness into the imposed and coarse outer gloom of the unilluminated twelve-o'clock-at-night, I experienced a disagreeable revulsion. Nor did I at all object to the hint from Queequeg that perhaps it were best to strike a light, seeing that we were so wide awake; and besides he felt a strong desire to have a few quiet puffs from his Tomahawk. Be it said, that though I had felt such a strong repugnance to his smoking in the bed the night before, yet see how elastic our stiff prejudices grow when once love comes to bend them. For now I liked nothing better than to have Queequeg smoking by me, even in bed, because he seemed to be full of such serene household joy then. I no more felt unduly concerned for the landlord's policy of insurance. I was only alive to the condensed confidential comfortableness of sharing a pipe and a blanket with a real friend. With our shaggy jackets drawn about our shoulders, we now passed the Tomahawk from one to the other, till slowly there grew over us a blue hanging tester of smoke, illuminated by the flame of the new-lit lamp.

Whether it was that this undulating tester rolled the savage away to far distant scenes, I know not, but he now spoke of his native island; and, eager to hear his history, I begged him to go on and tell it. He gladly complied. Though at the time I but ill comprehended not a few of his words, yet subsequent disclosures, when I had become more familiar with his broken phraseology, now enable me to present the whole story such as it may prove in the mere skeleton I give.
- A_SteamingLombardi

i think the uncivil war between the factions in carol's thread has jumped the shark.

- RealityChecker

- A_SteamingLombardi