https://nyegop.org/2021/01/10/a-letter-from-the-chairman/

and there it is, I predict there will be armed mobs at several state capital building on Jan 20.
- Makita

This pretty much sums up how tough these guys really are:

The pro-Trump supporter who was seen roaming around the US Capitol last week in a fur hat with horns was taken into custody.... Since then, he hasn't eaten anything in the detention facility because, according to his mother, he requires an organic diet.

"He gets very sick if he doesn't eat organic food," Martha Chansley, mother of Jake Angeli, told reporters outside of the courthouse, per The Arizona Republic. "He needs to eat."

https://news.yahoo.com/ma...ol-fur-hat-004453775.html

This pretty much sums up how tough these guys really are:

The pro-Trump supporter who was seen roaming around the US Capitol last week in a fur hat with horns was taken into custody.... Since then, he hasn't eaten anything in the detention facility because, according to his mother, he requires an organic diet.

"He gets very sick if he doesn't eat organic food," Martha Chansley, mother of Jake Angeli, told reporters outside of the courthouse, per The Arizona Republic. "He needs to eat."

https://news.yahoo.com/ma...ol-fur-hat-004453775.html
- RealityChecker

I've seen a lot of memes and jokes made out of that. "A lot of white moms are really going to start to care about prisoner care in jail now."

Nitwits

This pretty much sums up how tough these guys really are:

The pro-Trump supporter who was seen roaming around the US Capitol last week in a fur hat with horns was taken into custody.... Since then, he hasn't eaten anything in the detention facility because, according to his mother, he requires an organic diet.

"He gets very sick if he doesn't eat organic food," Martha Chansley, mother of Jake Angeli, told reporters outside of the courthouse, per The Arizona Republic. "He needs to eat."

https://news.yahoo.com/ma...ol-fur-hat-004453775.html
- RealityChecker

Also, apparently a judge has now ordered the jail marshal to feed him his organic diet. I'm sure he's real popular in there

https://nyegop.org/2021/01/10/a-letter-from-the-chairman/

and there it is, I predict there will be armed mobs at several state capital building on Jan 20.
- Makita

Holy sh*t!!!

@Pres.cup

Seems a good number of the Capitol police are under investigation/being let go:

https://www.washingtonpos...1-5b162d0d033d_story.html

https://www.independent.c...-trump-riot-b1785745.html
- NewYorkNuck

I'm not surprised... couldn't call it a coup if they didn't get inside....

On another note Trump declared a state of emergency which allows for greater police and state guard presence to oppose the mob.

I'm not surprised... couldn't call it a coup if they didn't get inside....

On another note Trump declared a state of emergency which allows for greater police and state guard presence to oppose the mob.
- Pres.cup

All is great in America again, Trump declared a state of emergency, stand down FBI no need to look any further for possible unrest, Trump has spoken and state guard is on the job.

Whew, glad this situation has been grabbed by the balls, thank God Trump stepped up to quell this uprising.

I'm not surprised... couldn't call it a coup if they didn't get inside....

On another note Trump declared a state of emergency which allows for greater police and state guard presence to oppose the mob.
- Pres.cup

How Presidential of him.

All is great in America again, Trump declared a state of emergency, stand down FBI no need to look any further for possible unrest, Trump has spoken and state guard is on the job.

Whew, glad this situation has been grabbed by the balls, thank God Trump stepped up to quell this uprising.
- Makita

Lol, no need for hyperbole, it allows for local law enforcement to have additional resources to deal with the mob and is a positive sign that Trump is not continuing to fight the hand over of power.

I know it goes against the coup narrative but I don't think any mentally competent person truly believed or feared that there was any chance that Trump was going to cease power and become a dictator over a bunch of angry red necks rioting.

How Presidential of him.
- CubanBuffet

The very least he could do, but at least he's doing it.....

Lol, no need for hyperbole, it allows for local law enforcement to have additional resources to deal with the mob and is a positive sign that Trump is not continuing to fight the hand over of power.

I know it goes against the coup narrative but I don't think any mentally competent person truly believed or feared that there was any chance that Trump was going to cease power and become a dictator over a bunch of angry red necks rioting.
- Pres.cup

covid is a narrative for the state to take away personal freedom from the populace and allow the "elite" to get richer.

the riot at the capitol is a "coup narrative" to make trump look bad.

narratives, i tells ya!

#delusion #DunningKruger

covid is a narrative for the state to take away personal freedom from the populace and allow the "elite" to get richer.

the riot at the capitol is a "coup narrative" to make trump look bad.

narratives, i tells ya!

#delusion #DunningKruger
- RealityChecker

Naw man, you got it twisted.

Trump already looks bad, the hyperbole from the roots to frame them as a coup is just pr. Blm protests were easy more justified but you can't tell me that they were less violent or destructive then the so called coup? The hyperbole is ridiculous.

The super rich have more then doubled their wealth by taking advantage of the covid virus, that's a fact. The poor have gotten poorer during the pandemic as the wealth gap has grown. That again is a fact.

The hysteria around the virus is being fanned to ensure a higher portion of the population complies with the vaccine despite the fact that many different demographics are not as badly affected by covid as they are the regular flu. The statistics we are given by our government do not allow for this discussion to readily take place as they are heavily obfuscated.

I don't think it's a conspiracy, it's certain demographics leveraging things to their advantage.

Naw man, you got it twisted.

Trump already looks bad, the hyperbole from the roots to frame them as a coup is just pr. Blm protests were easy more justified but you can't tell me that they were less violent or destructive then the so called coup? The hyperbole is ridiculous.

The super rich have more then doubled their wealth by taking advantage of the covid virus, that's a fact. The poor have gotten poorer during the pandemic as the wealth gap has grown. That again is a fact.

The hysteria around the virus is being fanned to ensure a higher portion of the population complies with the vaccine despite the fact that many different demographics are not as badly affected by covid as they are the regular flu. The statistics we are given by our government do not allow for this discussion to readily take place as they are heavily obfuscated.

I don't think it's a conspiracy, it's certain demographics leveraging things to their advantage.
- Pres.cup

Naw man, you got it twisted.

Trump already looks bad, the hyperbole from the roots to frame them as a coup is just pr. Blm protests were easy more justified but you can't tell me that they were less violent or destructive then the so called coup? The hyperbole is ridiculous.

The super rich have more then doubled their wealth by taking advantage of the covid virus, that's a fact. The poor have gotten poorer during the pandemic as the wealth gap has grown. That again is a fact.

The hysteria around the virus is being fanned to ensure a higher portion of the population complies with the vaccine despite the fact that many different demographics are not as badly affected by covid as they are the regular flu. The statistics we are given by our government do not allow for this discussion to readily take place as they are heavily obfuscated.

I don't think it's a conspiracy, it's certain demographics leveraging things to their advantage.
- Pres.cup

By definition, it was an attempted coup. That's just facts. There was a small group that planned and use violence to effect political change. That is by definition a coup.

Was it a large coup? No. Were all people involved in the violence aware of it? No. There was a small group within the protesters that advocated to a violent overthrow of the government.

Just because it was on such a small scale and ultimately doomed to failure does not mean that on a definitional level that it was not a an attempted coup.

You can make that same argument with a small group within BLM. While most protest peacefully or even violently, there is a small subset that wants to use violence to overthrow the government. It's ludicrous but it still makes their moves sedition, treasonous and if the violence can be tied to a goverental office or being, it can fit within the definition of coup.

The use of the word coup is deliberate to show that the violence is tied to a political end, much like the word, "terrorism.". It is meant to shock to say how serious the violence was.

The attempts to deflect and focus on how the story is covered is an interesting strategy to minimise what happened but it really is not unsurprising.

Naw man, you got it twisted.

Trump already looks bad, the hyperbole from the roots to frame them as a coup is just pr. Blm protests were easy more justified but you can't tell me that they were less violent or destructive then the so called coup? The hyperbole is ridiculous.

The super rich have more then doubled their wealth by taking advantage of the covid virus, that's a fact. The poor have gotten poorer during the pandemic as the wealth gap has grown. That again is a fact.

The hysteria around the virus is being fanned to ensure a higher portion of the population complies with the vaccine despite the fact that many different demographics are not as badly affected by covid as they are the regular flu. The statistics we are given by our government do not allow for this discussion to readily take place as they are heavily obfuscated.

I don't think it's a conspiracy, it's certain demographics leveraging things to their advantage.
- Pres.cup

With respect to covid, you just laid out the "conspiracy," but you just don't want it labelled as such.

Much like coup, if actions/words fit within the definition... It is what it is.

A former republican, is suggesting that 3 Republicans gave insurgents a tour of the peoples house, the day before the terrorist acts of the white privileged.

Also, Trump impea hed, again.

With respect to covid, you just laid out the "conspiracy," but you just don't want it labelled as such.

Much like coup, if actions/words fit within the definition... It is what it is.
- RealityChecker

Could be, if the individuals and/or organizations are working together in any capacity, then by definition it would be a conspiracy.

If a single lobbyist, acting on behalf of a single pharmaceutical company talked to a single politician or bureaucrat about mass vaccinations, by definition then, it would be a conspiracy, correct?

A former republican, is suggesting that 3 Republicans gave insurgents a tour of the peoples house, the day before the terrorist acts of the white privileged.

Also, Trump impea hed, again.
- Reubenkincade

3 cops are also being investigated after joining the protesters and posing for pictures with them... there's the conspiracy....

Could be, if the individuals and/or organizations are working together in any capacity, then by definition it would be a conspiracy.

If a single lobbyist, acting on behalf of a single pharmaceutical company talked to a single politician or bureaucrat about mass vaccinations, by definition then, it would be a conspiracy, correct?
- Pres.cup

Correct, a massive well coordinated “WORLD WIDE CONSPIRACY” and you and a few other highly super educated deniers have proved to the ENTIE WORLD that COVID is just a flu, only a flu, nothing to see here. It is only targeting old people and others like suicidal people and people with compromised immune systems who are just going to die anyway, but get lumped into Covid numbers to support their world wide conspiracy.

Good on ya Pres. there should be a statue on Saturna that proudly states, here stands Pres “Truth seeker and conspiracy theorist extraordinaire”

Correct, a massive well coordinated “WORLD WIDE CONSPIRACY” and you and a few other highly super educated deniers have proved to the ENTIE WORLD that COVID is just a flu, only a flu, nothing to see here. It is only targeting old people and others like suicidal people and people with compromised immune systems who are just going to die anyway, but get lumped into Covid numbers to support their world wide conspiracy.

Good on ya Pres. there should be a statue on Saturna that proudly states, here stands Pres “Truth seeker and conspiracy theorist extraordinaire”
- Makita

Got that right. I had the same argument with a denier last week. Him and his 12 friends had a freedom protest last week representing the entire Comox Valley. It's amazing how many of us are so stupid and wilfully led along.

Could be, if the individuals and/or organizations are working together in any capacity, then by definition it would be a conspiracy.

If a single lobbyist, acting on behalf of a single pharmaceutical company talked to a single politician or bureaucrat about mass vaccinations, by definition then, it would be a conspiracy, correct?
- Pres.cup

No. It would only be a conspiracy if what they plan to do is illegal.

But you are suggesting just that. That two or more people are "using" covid to advance their economic and/or political goals in an illegal way. If, as you suggest, that the immunizations are largely unnecessary or rushed to the point of danger to the public. That suggests that unnecessary medical procedures are being administered for nonmedical reasons. That is illegal. If two or more people planned it, it would be a conspiracy until it was followed through on (and then other crimes are being committed.

But if it was as small as one company and/or one (few) lobbyists with one/few politicians, you would still need the rest of the medical community and the world to believe in the danger. So it's either a huge conspiracy that the world's governments in conjunction with the medical community is in on. Or it's a small conspiracy that has duped everyone in the world (practically.)

With respect to what DJT said, I ask you:

What would the reaction be had an Imam/Muslim cleric used the exact same words and the "protesters" been Muslim.

Would that be sedition? Incitement to riot? Coup?

Methinks the Rs would think about it differently.

But I get it; orange man good. All praise be to the great pumpkin.

No. It would only be a conspiracy if what they plan to do is illegal.

But you are suggesting just that. That two or more people are "using" covid to advance their economic and/or political goals in an illegal way. If, as you suggest, that the immunizations are largely unnecessary or rushed to the point of danger to the public. That suggests that unnecessary medical procedures are being administered for nonmedical reasons. That is illegal. If two or more people planned it, it would be a conspiracy until it was followed through on (and then other crimes are being committed.

But if it was as small as one company and/or one (few) lobbyists with one/few politicians, you would still need the rest of the medical community and the world to believe in the danger. So it's either a huge conspiracy that the world's governments in conjunction with the medical community is in on. Or it's a small conspiracy that has duped everyone in the world (practically.)
- RealityChecker

I've never said the vaccine isn't required, just that they are obfuscating the data.
Certain demographics are more or less at risk.
A 20 year old without any underlying health conditions is at a greater risk from influenza then they are from covid, statistically of course.
A 90 year old with underlying health conditions are at huge risk from Covid-19.
And then there is everything in between.
The lack of data and snowballing everything together is what I have an issue with, as with the concept of mandatory vaccinations, which are illegal in Canada, does that make everyone talking together about making it mandatory conspirators?

A civil conspiracy or collusion is an agreement between two or more parties to deprive a third party of legal rights or deceive a third party to obtain an illegal objective.

In this civil definition the illegal aspect would be to deceive a third party into getting the vaccine by depriving them of the data needed to make an informed decision. Any group, working together, that moves the populous towards mandatory vaccinations (illegal in Canada) could be considered a conspiracy in Canada.

I'm sorry but time and time again the rich have been found to illegally shelter their money in offshore accounts. That is not a theory, it's a conspiracy.

The things that Snowden revealed about the government were an illegal conspiracy. To have such faith in people who have been proven, time and time again, to lie and act as conspirators without reprimand is the very definition of crazy. Pfizer paid a 1.3B fine a few years ago after being found guilty of conspiring to price fix.

I'm sorry but this on the top have been found guilty of conspiracy, over and over again without reprimand, but go ahead and take everything they tell you as bonified truth despite their trash record.

Correct, a massive well coordinated “WORLD WIDE CONSPIRACY” and you and a few other highly super educated deniers have proved to the ENTIE WORLD that COVID is just a flu, only a flu, nothing to see here. It is only targeting old people and others like suicidal people and people with compromised immune systems who are just going to die anyway, but get lumped into Covid numbers to support their world wide conspiracy.

Good on ya Pres. there should be a statue on Saturna that proudly states, here stands Pres “Truth seeker and conspiracy theorist extraordinaire”
- Makita

I never said it was just a flu. But keep pushing your theory, nothing like lies to ensure a good narrative.

With respect to what DJT said, I ask you:

What would the reaction be had an Imam/Muslim cleric used the exact same words and the "protesters" been Muslim.

Would that be sedition? Incitement to riot? Coup?

Methinks the Rs would think about it differently.

But I get it; orange man good. All praise be to the great pumpkin.
- RealityChecker

I've never once espoused to be pro Trump, but loving the brainwashed narrative, keep on with the shoehorn, it might fit one day.

The preceding posts were too scattershot to reply to. I'll merely summarize by saying, brainwashed is in the eye of the beholder.

But believe what you want.... Until they come for you. Or maybe not....