He knows to keep his mouth shut when it comes to arguing politics with you.


- LordHumungous

Politics, conspiracy theories, propaganda.

Politics, conspiracy theories, propaganda.
- Marwood

Russia has claimed that Ukraine has been harvesting the organs of fallen soldiers and children as Moscow tries to build support for its invasion, according to a rare public warning from Canada's foreign signals intelligence agency, The Communications Security Establishment (CSE).

Don’t people realize that Canada is supporting illegal children’s organ harvesters!

Russia has claimed that Ukraine has been harvesting the organs of fallen soldiers and children as Moscow tries to build support for its invasion, according to a rare public warning from Canada's foreign signals intelligence agency, The Communications Security Establishment (CSE).

Don’t people realize that Canada is supporting illegal children’s organ harvesters!
- bloatedmosquito

Most nazi loving countries do. No biggie.

Most nazi loving countries do. No biggie.
- Marwood

During these trying times, the world needs people like Putin to provide us with that moral compass.

During these trying times, the world needs people like Putin to provide us with that moral compass.
- bloatedmosquito

Trump really helped, too.

Russia has claimed that Ukraine has been harvesting the organs of fallen soldiers and children as Moscow tries to build support for its invasion, according to a rare public warning from Canada's foreign signals intelligence agency, The Communications Security Establishment (CSE).

Don’t people realize that Canada is supporting illegal children’s organ harvesters!
- bloatedmosquito

Out of curiosity I looked into this story. Seems there may have been some stuff on propaganda sites years ago(2014-2018) about some accusation of this. The current stories on this from Canadian media that I read provided no links or quotes of Putin saying this or a source links that back the claim up. The only link in the media stories goes to a CSE Twitter post that is also void of any sources or quotes to this claim. Searching should come up with Russian media claiming this of late but nothing yet. Just some old stuff from years ago. Looks like a dead end story so far.

Naturally I'm willing to read and open the links you post covering the CSE claim. I've been unsuccessful in finding anyone willing to back the claim up with source links or references. If the CSE, CBC and National post are just posting empty stories to it, I really am not going to spend all day searching and doing their work for them. This is what I call irresponsible journalism. Maybe I'm missing what you found or something more creditable will show up later. It's not outrageous to be skeptical of spy agency claims though.

Vice covering the militias 3 years ago. They get to the point...after Ukraine Gov commanders talk about how they have control of the militants in the east and there are no radicals, VICE proves them liars. Azov and Right Sector(all the red and black flags and arm bands) come right out and say (frank) the police, (frank) the government and they won't disband if ordered to. They are Rogue and VICE calls them that.



Interesting ending to their segment. They are at a massive nazi rally asking what happens when this war is over? The frightening footage of endless torch and flag bearing nazis on the march through Kiev. Something that hasnt been seen in Europe in those numbers since the 1930's...

Out of curiosity I looked into this story. Seems there may have been some stuff on propaganda sites years ago(2014-2018) about some accusation of this. The current stories on this from Canadian media that I read provided no links or quotes of Putin saying this or a source links that back the claim up. The only link in the media stories goes to a CSE Twitter post that is also void of any sources or quotes to this claim. Searching should come up with Russian media claiming this of late but nothing yet. Just some old stuff from years ago. Looks like a dead end story so far.

Naturally I'm willing to read and open the links you post covering the CSE claim. I've been unsuccessful in finding anyone willing to back the claim up with source links or references. If the CSE, CBC and National post are just posting empty stories to it, I really am not going to spend all day searching and doing their work for them. This is what I call irresponsible journalism. Maybe I'm missing what you found or something more creditable will show up later. It's not outrageous to be skeptical of spy agency claims though.
- boonerbuck

You are correct. Hopefully one day a Canadian spy agency will have sources as good as your internet connection provides.

You are correct. Hopefully one day a Canadian spy agency will have sources as good as your internet connection provides.
- bloatedmosquito

You are correct. Hopefully one day a Canadian spy agency will have sources as good as your internet connection provides.
- bloatedmosquito

Where did you get your empty accusation if not on the internet or TV??? You had a conversation with Putin?

As good? Flat out nothing provided. I said I'll wait for more information because so far there is only a unsourced accusation. Only the most naïve wouldn't be skeptical of a baseless claim at this point from a spy agency. You jumped on the wagon immediately. Meanwhile I've posted sources showing documents obtained from the Freedom of Information act showing Canada's involvement with Azov and them in a panic that it's going to go public. Caught lying... but they wouldn't lie this time...lol Nor would you who accused me of making up a baseless fact about Canada's support which is well proven and already been in public information for years... you really have lost all your arguments in devastating fashion... but keep coming back for more.

I'm on record how I feel about the fog of war... "somewhere between the two sides the fog is thinner"... I said exactly that. You handle it all like one side wouldn't lie about what's happening. That's adorable.

Most nazi loving countries do. No biggie.
- Marwood

Here's a BBC news broadcast about this entire issue around Ukraine's Azov and far right movements posted March 27th (eight days ago). I think it is a fair and accurate report.

Where did you get your empty accusation if not on the internet or TV??? You had a conversation with Putin?

As good? Flat out nothing provided. I said I'll wait for more information because so far there is only a unsourced accusation. Only the most naïve wouldn't be skeptical of a baseless claim at this point from a spy agency. You jumped on the wagon immediately. Meanwhile I've posted sources showing documents obtained from the Freedom of Information act showing Canada's involvement with Azov and them in a panic that it's going to go public. Caught lying... but they wouldn't lie this time...lol Nor would you who accused me of making up a baseless fact about Canada's support which is well proven and already been in public information for years... you really have lost all your arguments in devastating fashion... but keep coming back for more.

I'm on record how I feel about the fog of war... "somewhere between the two sides the fog is thinner"... I said exactly that. You handle it all like one side wouldn't lie about what's happening. That's adorable.
- boonerbuck

Lost my argument? I don't have an argument. I just said you exaggerate the truth and are gullible. Nothing to argue about because those are just plain facts.

You keep on patting yourself on the back and claiming false victories. A page out of your hero's playbook.

Here's a BBC news broadcast about this entire issue around Ukraine's Azov and far right movements posted March 27th (eight days ago). I think it is a fare and accurate report.


- bloatedmosquito

I've never posted Putin's exaggerated claims on here at all like this vid focuses on. You keep doubling back on it over and over as a deflection. I've been posting western media or western friendly media only and what they have had to say in the past vs the new narrative. They have shown over the last 8 years a different story than they have switched to since the war began. I've been pointing out the turn around over and over but you want to keep coming back to Putin propaganda because you don't have anything to explain the narrative change.

Right away they dismiss Zelensky's involvement with Nazis because he's jewish yet his #1 backer is a Nazi who was his main financer for his campaign and used his tv network to promote him and influence the election. Why is that? The same person who was Azov's main backer along with other nazi groups? That makes the fact that Zelenky, a rich oligarch himself who was exposed in the Pandora Papers for hiding millions offshore, a collaborator. He was exposed for that in the past but now his image is this family working class Churchill. A actor none the less...

Lets look at the fact that these groups are still funded by Zelensky's government. STILL. Let's look at the legislation and cover up of Ukraine's nazi past... we continue to fight the deniers... they continue to go the complete opposite direction. This BBC story is the new white wash that I'm talking about.... exactly. Changing the narrative doesn't erase what was acknowledged in the past.

Media went from addressing how the Ultra Nationalists have helped overthrow and infiltrated the government with the help of the west to puff pieces as soon as the war started. The same western media went from questioning why NATO was using Al-Qaeda affiliated militants on the ground in Libya to denying that those same groups and people by name were affiliated in Syria a few years later... again, a turn around and manipulation.

They can deny all they want about the severity of the Nazi problem in Ukraine but Human Rights groups and Jewish Antisemitism Watchdog groups have Ukraine as the #1 ranked country for antisemitism attacks in Europe. Not an issue though...


20,000 Ultra nationalists march in Kiev in 2019. BBC and the Guardian along with many other western standard media outlets warns people about it, along with watchdog groups... to this puff piece 3 years later... don't be so naïve.

Lost my argument? I don't have an argument. I just said you exaggerate the truth and are gullible. Nothing to argue about because those are just plain facts.

You keep on patting yourself on the back and claiming false victories. A page out of your hero's playbook.
- bloatedmosquito

Here we go. Every step you've taken in the debate is that of of someone losing their arguments. Now it's Putin my hero. I respect no world leaders especially the major players. Nowhere will you see me praising them.

It's true that I spend much of my time trying to alert people to what America is causing with their expansion and ever increasing efforts for global hegemony. That is the one constant. I've countered the narratives that support their wars going back to Bush and the WMD fiasco. This coup in Ukraine and NATO expansion onto Russia's border is scarier than all of them combined. A paranoid Putin and USA continuing to cross red lines may result in a war the world has never experienced. But your narrowminded interpretation comes down to my hero Putin.

You are right back to where you were in the past with the shots fired at me in every post.

I have a feeling this going to go on for longer than the war.

I've never posted Putin's exaggerated claims on here at all like this vid focuses on. You keep doubling back on it over and over as a deflection. I've been posting western media or western friendly media only and what they have had to say in the past vs the new narrative. They have shown over the last 8 years a different story than they have switched to since the war began. I've been pointing out the turn around over and over but you want to keep coming back to Putin propaganda because you don't have anything to explain the narrative change.

Right away they dismiss Zelensky's involvement with Nazis because he's jewish yet his #1 backer is a Nazi who was his main financer for his campaign and used his tv network to promote him and influence the election. Why is that? The same person who was Azov's main backer along with other nazi groups? That makes the fact that Zelenky, a rich oligarch himself who was exposed in the Pandora Papers for hiding millions offshore, a collaborator. He was exposed for that in the past but now his image is this family working class Churchill. A actor none the less...

Lets look at the fact that these groups are still funded by Zelensky's government. STILL. Let's look at the legislation and cover up of Ukraine's nazi past... we continue to fight the deniers... they continue to go the complete opposite direction. This BBC story is the new white wash that I'm talking about.... exactly. Changing the narrative doesn't erase what was acknowledged in the past.

Media went from addressing how the Ultra Nationalists have helped overthrow and infiltrated the government with the help of the west to puff pieces as soon as the war started. The same western media went from questioning why NATO was using Al-Qaeda affiliated militants on the ground in Libya to denying that those same groups and people by name were affiliated in Syria a few years later... again, a turn around and manipulation.

They can deny all they want about the severity of the Nazi problem in Ukraine but Human Rights groups and Jewish Antisemitism Watchdog groups have Ukraine as the #1 ranked country for antisemitism attacks in Europe. Not an issue though...


20,000 Ultra nationalists march in Kiev in 2019. BBC and the Guardian along with many other western standard media outlets warns people about it, along with watchdog groups... to this puff piece 3 years later... don't be so naïve.
- boonerbuck

White washed puff piece if it doesn’t agree with your propaganda. Understood.

I have a feeling this going to go on for longer than the war.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Let’s hope so because there are a lot of Ukrainian civilians dying unnecessarily.

Here's what he was exposed for in the Pandora Papers if you want to explore any ideas why he would betray his heritage like has happened so many times in past history. The population is desperate for what this actor was selling. Lots of source links. Classic shell games to hide companies and money. He sells himself as an anti oligarch who wants to rid Ukraine of this problem... he's a phony and an oligarch himself.

Revealed: ‘anti-oligarch’ Ukrainian president’s offshore connections
Volodymyr Zelenskiy has railed against politicians hiding wealth offshore but failed to disclose links to BVI firm

https://www.theguardian.c...tions-volodymyr-zelenskiy

White washed puff piece if it doesn’t agree with your propaganda. Understood.
- bloatedmosquito

My propaganda. Funny.

My propaganda. Funny.

- boonerbuck

It’s hilarious. But please continue.

Let’s hope so because there are a lot of Ukrainian civilians dying unnecessarily.
- bloatedmosquito

It's been going on for years. In the Guardian piece they say 14,000 have died. That was pre invasion in the eastern civil war. I've been heavily critical of the coup leading to this tragedy for at least 6 years here... but for you, it only matters for the last month.

It's been going on for years. In the Guardian piece they say 14,000 have died. That was pre invasion in the eastern civil war. I've been heavily critical of the coup leading to this tragedy for at least 6 years here... but for you, it only matters for the last month.
- boonerbuck

Six years of “research” and you still got important information wrong. Yikes.

But again, who needs to be correct when you can simply go back and change what you originally stated.

Six years of “research” and you still got important information wrong. Yikes.

But again, who needs to be correct when you can simply go back and change what you originally stated.
- bloatedmosquito

You tried this BS already and failed. Here's your accusations...

Unsolicited and unprovoked you entered the conversation with "We are supporting Nazis". Your exact words... or more accurately, parroting Putin's propaganda. I'll re-post that comment below this response so you don't go and change it like you tend to do

You said "we [Canada] are supporting Nazis" which is demonstrably false. You know exactly why you said it. Don't play dumb now..

Meanwhile I post Canadian media discussing the documents they obtained with the Freedom of Information Act of Canada's meetings with Azov and them in a panic about Azov posting pics of it and public backlash. Also in the story, Azov admitting they are getting training from Canada. You failed. It doesn't stop there either... Backlash for letting Azov use the Canadian embassy during the coup as well... you know, back when Azov hadn't been refurbished in the media yet...

I didn't bring up the subject of the Militants either. I responded to when Vintage brings up the Militant connection to the invasion.

Then you said Zelenskyy was complicit with neo-Nazi's in the Ukraine military until you were informed he's Jewish. Oops, now that's a narrative buster.

Right... busted another untruth of yours. His main financial backer in his campaign is a Nazi supporter, owns the network Zelenky's show was on, was Azov's #1 financial supporter and used his network to sell Zelensky the actor to the public. That's a lot of involvement with a Nazi and a massive Azov connection.... failed again.

Then you said Azov is entrenched into the Ukrainian government which is, you guessed it, demonstrably false.

I talk about the ideology being entrenched. A government that passes legislation to deny their holocaust participation, the murder of 80,000 jews, doesn't disband the Nazi militant groups but instead arms and funds them is just that. Failed yet again.

Meanwhile you only have to go back a few pages where you are discussing with people accusing the Trucker protests of being Nazis and who's funding them and how they are sheep not knowing who's backing them... pretty funny how you deny a massive example of this, downplay and defend it but play along with the trucker broad brush strokes.