Jesus, some of you sound like your parents.

“What’s wrong with today’s generation?”

“When I was their age I worked 10 jobs and was happy to do it.”

bla bla bla lol.
- bloatedmosquito

Uphill both ways? lol

The largest problem we face is that the Bay/Wall streets of the world control the economy instead of the main streets of the world. The rich get richer.
- golfingsince

You must check out the doc “ eat the rich the gamestop saga”. It’s on Netflix and it’s fantastic. Even when Joe Public tries to beat the system, the rich just change the system.

As they say in the doc “the house always wins”.

Did you read the article?
- NewYorkNuck

I did. I gleamed this from it.

“Most people my age don’t have a clear idea of what a union is and don’t often ask about it when we’re hired,” said Dakota, the 21-year-old Asheville receptionist.

Guess what else the young people don't do..........get involved? Vote?

I'll tell you again, we weren't handed this wonderful situation either.

Jesus, some of you sound like your parents.

“What’s wrong with today’s generation?”

“When I was their age I worked 10 jobs and was happy to do it.”

bla bla bla lol.
- bloatedmosquito

I'm seeing people that can't work a full week which comprises mostly of four 8 hour shifts. In return they make 6 figures.

I did. I gleamed this from it.

“Most people my age don’t have a clear idea of what a union is and don’t often ask about it when we’re hired,” said Dakota, the 21-year-old Asheville receptionist.

Guess what else the young people don't do..........get involved? Vote?

I'll tell you again, we weren't handed this wonderful situation either.
- golfingsince

From the entire article that talked about the recessions, pandemic, layoffs, anxiety, economy, and all the other factors that are going in to this mindset... you gleaned the one sentence about not knowing what a union is

And whose fault is that, that kids don't know what a union is? Theirs that they weren't taught it, theirs that unions have been pushed so far down over the years, theirs that the people hiring them (older people) don't tell them about unions when they're first hired?

I've never said you were handed a wonderful situation. The situation you/boomers started in (economically, career-wise, etc.) was easier than it is now (for most people).

From the entire article that talked about the recessions, pandemic, layoffs, anxiety, economy, and all the other factors that are going in to this mindset... you gleaned the one sentence about not knowing what a union is

And whose fault is that, that kids don't know what a union is? Theirs that they weren't taught it, theirs that unions have been pushed so far down over the years, theirs that the people hiring them (older people) don't tell them about unions when they're first hired?

I've never said you were handed a wonderful situation. The situation you/boomers started in (economically, career-wise, etc.) was easier than it is now (for most people).
- NewYorkNuck

Weird, it's almost like we had recessions, layoffs, anxiety, poor economy, climate change and yes even a pandemic when I was 18.

I've already shown you national data that disputes your claim about it being harder now than ever before yet you ignored it. Once again, there were no jobs at all back in the early 90's.

If you want to defend people's choice not to work that's your prerogative. However, complaining about hardship while defending that choice doesn't sit right with me.

You must check out the doc “ eat the rich the gamestop saga”. It’s on Netflix and it’s fantastic. Even when Joe Public tries to beat the system, the rich just change the system.

As they say in the doc “the house always wins”.
- bloatedmosquito

We aren't smart enough to beat the system.

Jesus, some of you sound like your parents.

“What’s wrong with today’s generation?”

“When I was their age I worked 10 jobs and was happy to do it.”

bla bla bla lol.
- bloatedmosquito

From the entire article that talked about the recessions, pandemic, layoffs, anxiety, economy, and all the other factors that are going in to this mindset... you gleaned the one sentence about not knowing what a union is

And whose fault is that, that kids don't know what a union is? Theirs that they weren't taught it, theirs that unions have been pushed so far down over the years, theirs that the people hiring them (older people) don't tell them about unions when they're first hired?

I've never said you were handed a wonderful situation. The situation you/boomers started in (economically, career-wise, etc.) was easier than it is now (for most people).
- NewYorkNuck

I find it interesting that this so called Gen-Z think that they are the only generation to live through adversity...holy sheep poop. You do realize that boomers were once young and lived through recessions, layoffs, anxiety, a piss poor economy and outrageous inflation.

As golfing states there were no jobs back then, you could be out of work for 18 months easy. No gov't programs to subsidize income other than UIC.

I am trying to understand the concerns but I am having a hard time wrapping my head around the issue. The young masses don't want to work, got it, don't want entry level jobs, got it, don't want to have to earn advancement in a company by putting in extra hours or initiative, got it, should have it handed to them, don't think so, I'll pass to the next deserving candidate.

Btw the article was interesting but I would worry for their futures, it's all grand to make a stand but (as everyone grows old) who is paying for their future.

Do you advocate that social programs support everyone until death, but because they don't contribute to it, it will be on others to support through exorbitant taxes?

Jesus, some of you sound like your parents.

“What’s wrong with today’s generation?”

“When I was their age I worked 10 jobs and was happy to do it.”

bla bla bla lol.
- bloatedmosquito

you kill me, I can envision you around the family table, boys no need to work for living, just protest things will change, that's right boys stand by your principals why should you have to earn anything in life, yell, scream, march on parliament. Working is for those that want grander things in life and that's not you guys, nope you guys deserve better, why, well just because is all.

Guess what? Life is hard.

Guess what? Life is hard.
- golfingsince

isn't this the issue, I don't want it to be hard, so (frank) it i quit.

isn't this the issue, I don't want it to be hard, so (frank) it i quit.
- Makita

It hasn't even been 100 years since the Great Depression.

It hasn't even been 100 years since the Great Depression.
- golfingsince

I blame Justin.

I try to teach everyone that joins the union to learn about it and get involved. The word union itself essentially means together. People of all ages have a really difficult time not putting themselves ahead of the group or making any type of sacrifice.

Making the sacrifice is how you achieve results. When we went on strike in 2019 almost all of the young hires tried to get out of picketing, despite the fact that their jobs would have been the most impacted from what the company proposed.

You have no idea how many vehicles were in the shop until I offered to drive around and pick people up. It's great to want something, it's an entirely different animal to fight for it.

I blame Justin.
- Makita

I won't be voting liberal.......again. I think the party does whatever it can to hold onto power but they really don't believe in much of what they stand for..........if that makes sense.

Jesus, some of you sound like your parents.

“What’s wrong with today’s generation?”

“When I was their age I worked 10 jobs and was happy to do it.”

bla bla bla lol.
- bloatedmosquito

I just sold weed.

I did. I gleamed this from it.

“Most people my age don’t have a clear idea of what a union is and don’t often ask about it when we’re hired,” said Dakota, the 21-year-old Asheville receptionist.

Guess what else the young people don't do..........get involved? Vote?

I'll tell you again, we weren't handed this wonderful situation either.
- golfingsince

If you could vote on your phone everyone would vote.

If you could vote on your phone everyone would vote.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Some of them multiple times.......without understanding what they were voting for. Make a (frank)ing effort to get informed and involved. It might take some time out of your precious life but it might also make a difference in want you want out of life.......even if you want more time.

Weird, it's almost like we had recessions, layoffs, anxiety, poor economy, climate change and yes even a pandemic when I was 18.

I've already shown you national data that disputes your claim about it being harder now than ever before yet you ignored it. Once again, there were no jobs at all back in the early 90's.

If you want to defend people's choice not to work that's your prerogative. However, complaining about hardship while defending that choice doesn't sit right with me.
- golfingsince

That one link you posted about housing affordability? The one about the percentage of median household income doesn't get at the matter of how hard it is for YOUNG people to join in the housing market, which is the point of this. The first article I posted illustrated that much better, so much so even Makita agrees.

Do you not think that maybe the hardship influences the mindset of working? The idea/dream that, previously, working 40 hours a week, saving, climbing the ladder, and working hard would afford you this lifestyle to buy a home and support a family and etc etc isn't the same as it used to be? That working now 40+ hours a week (constant availability of work through internet), saving, climbing, etc just doesn't equate to the same home buying lifestyle that it used to? That people think, well, instead of grinding myself down in a corporate or manual labour job to not even be able to afford that, maybe I'll find a different and better work/life balance.

I find it interesting that this so called Gen-Z think that they are the only generation to live through adversity...holy sheep poop. You do realize that boomers were once young and lived through recessions, layoffs, anxiety, a piss poor economy and outrageous inflation.

As golfing states there were no jobs back then, you could be out of work for 18 months easy. No gov't programs to subsidize income other than UIC.

I am trying to understand the concerns but I am having a hard time wrapping my head around the issue. The young masses don't want to work, got it, don't want entry level jobs, got it, don't want to have to earn advancement in a company by putting in extra hours or initiative, got it, should have it handed to them, don't think so, I'll pass to the next deserving candidate.

Btw the article was interesting but I would worry for their futures, it's all grand to make a stand but (as everyone grows old) who is paying for their future.

Do you advocate that social programs support everyone until death, but because they don't contribute to it, it will be on others to support through exorbitant taxes?
- Makita

Yes, boomers were once young, but I wonder if the recessions, layoffs, etc are equal (here's from a quick search on recessions: "The Great Recession lasted from December 2007 to June 2009, the longest contraction since the Great Depression", and "The 2020 recession was the worst since the Great Depression. The U.S. economy contracted a record 31.2% in the second quarter after falling 5.1% in the previous quarter." makes me think they're not as equal)

I mean, I think what you're saying is also a huge blanket statement. There have always been people who don't want to work (hello, hippies), and there are a ton of young people who work harder/smarter than older people. As what that article pointed out, with the platforms available for people, they're just louder about it.

One other thing, is the progression/evolution of our society as a whole, and the elongation/evolution of youth. Way back when kids used to work as soon as they were able to (talking about the West here on), then they were able to go to school and that was a turning point for development, then the growth of adolescence, then the formation of the teenager in the 1950s, then the influx of college life extending youth... there has been more written on this out there, but part of what we're seeing now is an extension of that: that people are younger longer now. You can see it in the ages people marry, have kids, etc., and the same for joining the "mature" workforce.

About social programs, I honestly believe in social programs, but I also believe that people shouldn't live off the system forever (unless there are extenuating circumstances).. and the people on EI or whatever after a while should have some mandates around it like volunteer work or community contribution . But that's me.

As for the general concern for kids/the youth/the future of society, again that's a level of Juvenoia that springs up, and has sprung up, with every older generation looking down on the youth. If you have 20 minutes, this is a good watch (I love this channel):

The Great Recession in Canada was nowhere near what is was elsewhere. In fact, we likely only entered it due to our trade relationship with the US. Canada entered the recession in December 2008 and it was over in July 2009.

On the other hand, the recession of the early 90's was more severe in Canada than elsewhere. I guess when you live through them you have a better understanding of how each of them affected Canada.

I just wish the people who are quiet quitting would shut up and be quiet about it.

I don’t take work home, it’s great, everyone should do that. But doing the minimum is a sure way to get noticed for all the wrong reasons, and bypassed for higher wages, more responsibility, more fulfilling work and ultimately more opportunity of work/life balance. Ironic.

https://www150.statcan.gc...11401-eng.pdf?st=5tVKQhgz




By most conventional measures – real GDP, employment or hours worked – the 2008-2009 recession was less severe than those starting in 1981 and 1990. This holds true whether one is comparing the drop from peak to trough or the time needed to recoup the losses experienced during a recession.

Guess what? Life is hard.
- golfingsince

It's even harder if you're stupid.