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Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 28 @ 11:13 AM ET


How do you know his teammates don't fully support him?

Love this stuff...


- LordHumungous

Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 28 @ 11:14 AM ET
Let's make sure we ban all guns and don't solve the root of the problem.

Sad man.

- LordHumungous

Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 28 @ 11:14 AM ET
Ironic that folks will jump all over the Catholic Church and the organized crime syndicate that the Vatican is but won't address the current Grooming that's happening right under our noses. Fucking sick.
- LordHumungous

Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 28 @ 11:15 AM ET
WEF

Didn't they predict the next pandemic too? What does Gates think? He's a doctor now right?

When the climate lockdowns begin you gonna comply like a good little sheep or gonna stand and fight?

Food for thought bud.


- LordHumungous

Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 28 @ 11:17 AM ET
I unhinged Saturdays!

Looks like the bully is feeling victimized again, poor little cracker. At least he's being respectful.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jan 28 @ 12:58 PM ET
Honk honk!

https://www.castanet.net/...omes-through-the-Okanagan
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jan 28 @ 1:10 PM ET
You are one of the good ones Bloated I will say for sure and surely you are smart enough to see what's coming I hope. Once you are awake you can't unsee it unfortunately.

I was right about masks/lockdowns not working, ineffective vaccines and the origins of 'covid'. What more would you like? Over 4000 'unexplained' deaths in AB in 2022 now it's reported the the highest in the history of the Province. Have Nurses in the family here at the Hospitals cardio ward attendance was up 400% in 2022. Myocarditis and Pericarditis everywhere from the vax. Not coincidental. MSM of course will not roll stories of the massive vaccine injuries because they need uptake to be high for profits. A good friend here 52 years old male journeyman welder has been off since last November from his vax injury and is STILL not back to work. The cardio doctors had no choice to call it what it was after all the 'its anxiety and stress' crap. Plus doctors prescribing antidepressants to 'anti vaxxers' lol which is another story altogether. Like I said before we have 7/1500 workers out with vax injuries and more to come. Sad that folks keep putting that poison in their bodies when they know how ineffective they are. But, that's how brainwashing works right?

So again, any facts that I provide vs the narrative here will just be discredited by the champs as 'misinformation' very similar to when Booner put you all in your places on the Ukraine/Russia farce of a war. He provided links and facts that we all historically know vs the narrative and all the gang did was call him names and a conspiracy theorist and if you actually look up that he was trying to say it's all there. But folks here would rather they let CBC/CTV and Global dictate how their daily lives go. Another sad affair.

So regardless it's a waste of my time and yours as there are no 'rational debates' here. Just the narrative by the champs and if you don't succumb you are racists, sexist, anti LGTBQ blah blah and what have you. That's all the cards they have as they can't provide facts to support their narratives. Just whatever MSM reports. I can't convince you to come around to a way of critical thinking and you certainly aren't going to convince me otherwise so it is what it is. I just hope you have the foresight to see what's coming once the 'covid' theatre has been exhausted. It's not good. Best to you man.

- LordHumungous


Let’s just keep this to COVID and not talk Russia/Ukraine. Anyone who thinks that disaster is justified is mistaken in my opinion regardless of the “evidence”. So many unnecessary deaths on both sides.

You said a lot above so let’s break it down one by one… your first point:

Over 4000 'unexplained' deaths in AB in 2022.

Wrong. There was 3,362 deaths attributed to “ill-defined and unknown causes” in 2021. 2022 stats are not out yet. Plus the Alberta government has clearly stated:

“The 'other ill-defined and unknown cause of death' classification is given when a cause of death cannot be determined, or when a death is still under investigation with a medical examiner. Some deaths originally coded in this way are updated as final determination of cause of death are determined. The claim of vaccines causing death is not supported by scientific research or the global experience of COVID-19. There is no basis to suggest the 'unknown' category in the Service Alberta data contains additional (adverse event following immunization) deaths, the very low rate of death and other serious AEFIs in Alberta is consistent with the extensive published evidence," said Lisa Glover with Alberta Health.

Second statement:

Hospitals cardio ward attendance was up 400% in 2022.

Again, 2022 records are not released yet and I can’t find any statistical information from Alberta Health or BC Health Ministry about a 400% increase in attendance in 2021. Can you share where that stat came from?


You always tell me to “wake up” and mention a lot about the facts you’re laying down. I’m ready to be woke and I’m desperate to learn so educate me with your factual information and not just your educated opinion. And don’t worry about getting the Booner treatment, we just like to rile him up. We’ll be serious this time. Fire away.
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Jan 28 @ 1:17 PM ET
Enjoy your chat with the mods goof!!


- LordHumungous


You mad Ricky? Don’t be such an bumhole all the time and people won’t treat you like one. Make up more lies asshat! That seems to be the only thing you’re good at.

TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Jan 28 @ 1:21 PM ET
Let’s just keep this to COVID and not talk Russia/Ukraine. Anyone who thinks that disaster is justified is mistaken in my opinion regardless of the “evidence”. So many unnecessary deaths on both sides.

You said a lot above so let’s break it down one by one… your first point:

Over 4000 'unexplained' deaths in AB in 2022.

Wrong. There was 3,362 deaths attributed to “ill-defined and unknown causes” in 2021. 2022 stats are not out yet. Plus the Alberta government has clearly stated:

“The 'other ill-defined and unknown cause of death' classification is given when a cause of death cannot be determined, or when a death is still under investigation with a medical examiner. Some deaths originally coded in this way are updated as final determination of cause of death are determined. The claim of vaccines causing death is not supported by scientific research or the global experience of COVID-19. There is no basis to suggest the 'unknown' category in the Service Alberta data contains additional (adverse event following immunization) deaths, the very low rate of death and other serious AEFIs in Alberta is consistent with the extensive published evidence," said Lisa Glover with Alberta Health.

Second statement:

Hospitals cardio ward attendance was up 400% in 2022.

Again, 2022 records are not released yet and I can’t find any statistical information from Alberta Health or BC Health Ministry about a 400% increase in attendance in 2021. Can you share where that stat came from?


You always tell me to “wake up” and mention a lot about the facts you’re laying down. I’m ready to be woke and I’m desperate to learn so educate me with your factual information and not just your educated opinion. And don’t worry about getting the Booner treatment, we just like to rile him up. We’ll be serious this time. Fire away.

- bloatedmosquito


Come on. You know he can’t back anything he says up. He just makes up lies. That’s all he ever does. He’s pathetic. I wonder what little Rick’s employers think of the stuff he posts here.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jan 28 @ 1:38 PM ET
Let’s just keep this to COVID and not talk Russia/Ukraine. Anyone who thinks that disaster is justified is mistaken in my opinion regardless of the “evidence”. So many unnecessary deaths on both sides.

You said a lot above so let’s break it down one by one… your first point:

Over 4000 'unexplained' deaths in AB in 2022.

Wrong. There was 3,362 deaths attributed to “ill-defined and unknown causes” in 2021. 2022 stats are not out yet. Plus the Alberta government has clearly stated:

“The 'other ill-defined and unknown cause of death' classification is given when a cause of death cannot be determined, or when a death is still under investigation with a medical examiner. Some deaths originally coded in this way are updated as final determination of cause of death are determined. The claim of vaccines causing death is not supported by scientific research or the global experience of COVID-19. There is no basis to suggest the 'unknown' category in the Service Alberta data contains additional (adverse event following immunization) deaths, the very low rate of death and other serious AEFIs in Alberta is consistent with the extensive published evidence," said Lisa Glover with Alberta Health.

Second statement:

Hospitals cardio ward attendance was up 400% in 2022.

Again, 2022 records are not released yet and I can’t find any statistical information from Alberta Health or BC Health Ministry about a 400% increase in attendance in 2021. Can you share where that stat came from?


You always tell me to “wake up” and mention a lot about the facts you’re laying down. I’m ready to be woke and I’m desperate to learn so educate me with your factual information and not just your educated opinion. And don’t worry about getting the Booner treatment, we just like to rile him up. We’ll be serious this time. Fire away.

- bloatedmosquito




Love it all. Don't expect many facts and evidence from LMP, but you already know that. Maybe he's been "awake" so long he's just hallucinating now
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jan 28 @ 2:00 PM ET


Love it all. Don't expect many facts and evidence from LMP, but you already know that. Maybe he's been "awake" so long he's just hallucinating now

- NewYorkNuck


AEFIs (Adverse Events Following Immunization) is a huge talking point of alt-right conspiracists. So let’s look at the statistics published by Canadian health authorities:

https://health-infobase.c...mmary.html?wbdisable=true

96,432,067 - Total doses administered up to and including January 6, 2023

53,611 - Total adverse event following immunization reports (0.056% of all doses administered). That’s about 6 people out of every 10,000 people vaccinated who have reported 1 or more adverse events.

43,046 - Total adverse event following immunization reports that were non-serious (0.045% of all doses administered)

10,565 - Total adverse event following immunization reports that were serious (0.011% of all doses administered)

Lordy makes it sound like the vaccine is more dangerous than the virus itself. The evidence does not indicate this at all. In fact, it’s the exact opposite.

There were 10,565 cases of AEFIs that probably resulted in death or serious injuries. Those are people who listened to their government, got it, and then paid dearly for doing it. That’s sad and I wish it didn’t happen. But to warp that into some sort of global conspiracy to harm us is just insane and I wish people like Lordy and Prez wouldn’t be so quick to promote it.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jan 28 @ 2:29 PM ET
AEFIs (Adverse Events Following Immunization) is a huge talking point of alt-right conspiracists. So let’s look at the statistics published by Canadian health authorities:

https://health-infobase.c...mmary.html?wbdisable=true

96,432,067 - Total doses administered up to and including January 6, 2023

53,611 - Total adverse event following immunization reports (0.056% of all doses administered). That’s about 6 people out of every 10,000 people vaccinated who have reported 1 or more adverse events.

43,046 - Total adverse event following immunization reports that were non-serious (0.045% of all doses administered)

10,565 - Total adverse event following immunization reports that were serious (0.011% of all doses administered)

Lordy makes it sound like the vaccine is more dangerous than the virus itself. The evidence does not indicate this at all. In fact, it’s the exact opposite.

There were 10,565 cases of AEFIs that probably resulted in death or serious injuries. Those are people who listened to their government, got it, and then paid dearly for doing it. That’s sad and I wish it didn’t happen. But to warp that into some sort of global conspiracy to harm us is just insane and I wish people like Lordy and Prez wouldn’t be so quick to promote it.

- bloatedmosquito


"That's only the numbers they're telling you"
"I know of at least 7 people myself who had adverse reactions"
etc etc

In the United States, COVID-19 now kills about 0.6% of people infected with the virus, compared with around 0.9% early in the pandemic. So, hypothetically, if those people didn't get the vaccine, statistically more of them would have died from the virus.

(Lordy: I know you know math, but 0.6 > 0.011)
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 28 @ 2:36 PM ET
AEFIs (Adverse Events Following Immunization) is a huge talking point of alt-right conspiracists. So let’s look at the statistics published by Canadian health authorities:

https://health-infobase.c...mmary.html?wbdisable=true

96,432,067 - Total doses administered up to and including January 6, 2023

53,611 - Total adverse event following immunization reports (0.056% of all doses administered). That’s about 6 people out of every 10,000 people vaccinated who have reported 1 or more adverse events.

43,046 - Total adverse event following immunization reports that were non-serious (0.045% of all doses administered)

10,565 - Total adverse event following immunization reports that were serious (0.011% of all doses administered)

Lordy makes it sound like the vaccine is more dangerous than the virus itself. The evidence does not indicate this at all. In fact, it’s the exact opposite.

There were 10,565 cases of AEFIs that probably resulted in death or serious injuries. Those are people who listened to their government, got it, and then paid dearly for doing it. That’s sad and I wish it didn’t happen. But to warp that into some sort of global conspiracy to harm us is just insane and I wish people like Lordy and Prez wouldn’t be so quick to promote it.

- bloatedmosquito


I have a friend, who lives in Alberta coincidentally, who had a severe reaction. He was hospitalized, off work for months. It took him a long time to get back on his bicycle (literally, he’s an avid mountain biker). I saw him this past summer. He’s in good spirits, lost a lot of weight but lookin pretty good again.

poop is real, but as you say, the occurrences are rare, the benefits far outweigh the risk for most people.

These morons get hung up on the timeline, or who is profiting the most. Timeline? No other vaccine has ever had the cooperation and coordination of the global scientific community like this has. No other vaccine has had the billions of $ thrown at it like this one has. Who profits most? Duh, you can’t be a capitalist and not support a companies right to profit from their work.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 28 @ 2:40 PM ET
AEFIs (Adverse Events Following Immunization) is a huge talking point of alt-right conspiracists. So let’s look at the statistics published by Canadian health authorities:

https://health-infobase.c...mmary.html?wbdisable=true

96,432,067 - Total doses administered up to and including January 6, 2023

53,611 - Total adverse event following immunization reports (0.056% of all doses administered). That’s about 6 people out of every 10,000 people vaccinated who have reported 1 or more adverse events.

43,046 - Total adverse event following immunization reports that were non-serious (0.045% of all doses administered)

10,565 - Total adverse event following immunization reports that were serious (0.011% of all doses administered)

Lordy makes it sound like the vaccine is more dangerous than the virus itself. The evidence does not indicate this at all. In fact, it’s the exact opposite.

There were 10,565 cases of AEFIs that probably resulted in death or serious injuries. Those are people who listened to their government, got it, and then paid dearly for doing it. That’s sad and I wish it didn’t happen. But to warp that into some sort of global conspiracy to harm us is just insane and I wish people like Lordy and Prez wouldn’t be so quick to promote it.

- bloatedmosquito

You're one of the good ones, Bloated.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 28 @ 2:50 PM ET
Oh come now Vintsy you are better than that. If I recall you and Booner agreed quite a bit on the Russia/Ukraine farce before he was ganged up on with name-calling lol then you started to flip flop on your stance.

Don't lump yourself in with the alt new-leftists crowd here. Be smart man.

Best.

- LordHumungous


I’m not the one lumping myself in with anyone else, that’s you…

Here’s the deal. Until we (society) stops accepting discrimination in all its forms, and start calling out those perpetrating it, it will continue to be acceptable.

You spout all kinds of hate, daily. I’ve stopped reading your posts because I know there won’t be anything worth reading. You rarely have a hockey comment, and when you do it’s stupid. Mostly it’s just a meme, or an emoji/text.

When questioned about what you mean, you deflect or disappear. What’s the point in trying to have a conversation with you? I’ll tell you, there’s no reason to, you have nothing to say.

You say you have gay friends who are good people and want to be left alone. That’s such crap. These people aren’t your friends. If you spoke out loud to them the way you do on the internet they would get up and walk out.

I’m not interested in being your internet friend. You can’t think for yourself and you are rude to almost everyone. You’re not a good human. I’ve left the Canucks thread for a few reasons. 1. The organization is a joke. They are terrible to their employees, and to their fans. 2. Because I just can’t take your bullpoop anymore. Nighthawk is a (frank)ing moron but at least he is a decent human. You have no societal benefit.

Rant over, don’t bother responding, I’m done talking to you.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jan 28 @ 2:52 PM ET
Why do you guys waste any time with this idiot?
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jan 28 @ 2:54 PM ET
I’m not the one lumping myself in with anyone else, that’s you…

Here’s the deal. Until we (society) stops accepting discrimination in all its forms, and start calling out those perpetrating it, it will continue to be acceptable.

You spout all kinds of hate, daily. I’ve stopped reading your posts because I know there won’t be anything worth reading. You rarely have a hockey comment, and when you do it’s stupid. Mostly it’s just a meme, or an emoji/text.

When questioned about what you mean, you deflect or disappear. What’s the point in trying to have a conversation with you? I’ll tell you, there’s no reason to, you have nothing to say.

You say you have gay friends who are good people and want to be left alone. That’s such crap. These people aren’t your friends. If you spoke out loud to them the way you do on the internet they would get up and walk out.

I’m not interested in being your internet friend. You can’t think for yourself and you are rude to almost everyone. You’re not a good human. I’ve left the Canucks thread for a few reasons. 1. The organization is a joke. They are terrible to their employees, and to their fans. 2. Because I just can’t take your bullpoop anymore. Nighthawk is a (frank)ing moron but at least he is a decent human. You have no societal benefit.

Rant over, don’t bother responding, I’m done talking to you.

- 1970vintage

Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 28 @ 2:59 PM ET
I’m not the one lumping myself in with anyone else, that’s you…

Here’s the deal. Until we (society) stops accepting discrimination in all its forms, and start calling out those perpetrating it, it will continue to be acceptable.

You spout all kinds of hate, daily. I’ve stopped reading your posts because I know there won’t be anything worth reading. You rarely have a hockey comment, and when you do it’s stupid. Mostly it’s just a meme, or an emoji/text.

When questioned about what you mean, you deflect or disappear. What’s the point in trying to have a conversation with you? I’ll tell you, there’s no reason to, you have nothing to say.

You say you have gay friends who are good people and want to be left alone. That’s such crap. These people aren’t your friends. If you spoke out loud to them the way you do on the internet they would get up and walk out.

I’m not interested in being your internet friend. You can’t think for yourself and you are rude to almost everyone. You’re not a good human. I’ve left the Canucks thread for a few reasons. 1. The organization is a joke. They are terrible to their employees, and to their fans. 2. Because I just can’t take your bullpoop anymore. Nighthawk is a (frank)ing moron but at least he is a decent human. You have no societal benefit.

Rant over, don’t bother responding, I’m done talking to you.

- 1970vintage

Well said.



Thank you.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jan 28 @ 3:38 PM ET
What a bunch of sheep!
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jan 28 @ 4:02 PM ET
What a bunch of sheep!
- VanHockeyGuy


Like a boss!

VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jan 28 @ 4:07 PM ET
Like a boss!


- bloatedmosquito



VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jan 28 @ 10:35 PM ET
This thread is infested with neo leftists
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jan 28 @ 11:56 PM ET
This thread is infested with neo leftists
- VanHockeyGuy

It's a thread full of bumholes and you're one of them. Get over yourself.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jan 29 @ 12:03 AM ET
This thread is infested with neo leftists
- VanHockeyGuy


What do you think neo-leftists mean?

I’m going to assume you mean that most of us are promoters of civil and political rights, environmentalism, feminism, gay rights, and ‘free drugs for all’ freaks instead of the “new Marxists” types.

I think you are so wrong, like flat-earth wrong.

Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 29 @ 12:08 AM ET
What do you think neo-leftists mean?

I’m going to assume you mean that most of us are promoters of civil and political rights, environmentalism, feminism, gay rights, and ‘free drugs for all’ freaks instead of the “new Marxists” types.

I think you are so wrong, like flat-earth wrong.

- bloatedmosquito

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