*without co-morbidities *

I never suggested at risk people be denied the vax. I suggested that forcing low or zero risk people to get the vax is fundamentally wrong.
- Pres.cup

Where are you getting your co-morbidities info from?
- bloatedmosquito

The CDC had the information publicly listed through the first 2 years of the pandemic.

I've two healthy boys ages 4 and 8 so I've followed very attentively. Every covid related death that's occurred in bc in the 6 to 18yo age group has had multiple comorbidites.

The data isn't public anymore because.... well, read the Twitter files, it's not a conspiracy if it's true.

Again…too stupid. I said I hadn’t heard any that died but I’m sure there were a few. But hospitalizations spiked way up. Even with vaccines. Without them there would have been more, and worse severity.
- TurdFergeson

So... zero healthy kids died and yet you support the fact that they had to take an drug which the testing showed didn't statistically change their risk factors at all to play sports, fly or eat at a restaurant? (The incidents of infection were to low in both the test and control group to quantify)

Does that sound like solid science or more branch covidian nonsense? Why is it so hard to see that while the vaccine was perhaps the right thing for some demographics, it was the wrong thing for other demographics?
Why did the UK stop offering boosters for healthy under 50 year olds?

I'm a far left greeny my dude. Personal friend with both Elizabeth May and Adam Olsen. Only Trudeau labeled me right wing because of my opposition to his vaccine mandates.

To funny but yes, all prime ministers are corrupt and should be kicked out of office at the first opportunity.

The meme speaks truly. Those are all examples of what's called creeping facism.
- Pres.cup

BS. You are Alt-Right because no one with any amount of intelligence or even the slightest knowledge of history would compare Hitler to JT. That is a slap in the face of those who were devastated by efforts of the Third Reich.

Only Alt-Right types are that dumb and insensitive. They have no idea what true persecution is. No clue what "loss of freedom" actually looks like. They don't care about their fellow Canadians or the communities they live in. Alt-Rights are soft, spoiled, self-centered whiners who cry "oppression!" at the first sign of inconvenience.

And for the love of god, if you are going to accuse the Canadian government of being Fascists, please spell fascism correctly. Thanks

- TurdFergeson

It means having other health conditions that increase your risk of mortality.

96 percent of all covid deaths have 2 or more severe comorbidites.

So... zero healthy kids died and yet you support the fact that they had to take an drug which the testing showed didn't statistically change their risk factors at all to play sports, fly or eat at a restaurant? (The incidents of infection were to low in both the test and control group to quantify)

Does that sound like solid science or more branch covidian nonsense? Why is it so hard to see that while the vaccine was perhaps the right thing for some demographics, it was the wrong thing for other demographics?
Why did the UK stop offering boosters for healthy under 50 year olds?
- Pres.cup

Chicken pox, measles, flu, polio…and on and on…why do we have vaccines for healthy kids against all these diseases when they don’t have co-morbidities… damn forced vax’s.

It means having other health conditions that increase your risk of mortality.

96 percent of all covid deaths have 2 or more severe comorbidites.
- Pres.cup

https://www.reuters.com/a...-among-caus-idUSKBN25U2IO

and you don't recognize you're Alt-Right?

BS. You are Alt-Right because no one with any amount of intelligence or even the slightest knowledge of history would compare Hitler to JT. That is a slap in the face of those who were devastated by efforts of the Third Reich.

Only Alt-Right types are that dumb and insensitive. They have no idea what true persecution is. No clue what "loss of freedom" actually looks like. They don't care about their fellow Canadians or the communities they live in. Alt-Rights are soft, spoiled, self-centered whiners who cry "oppression!" at the first sign of inconvenience.

And for the love of god, if you are going to accuse the Canadian government of being Fascists, please spell fascism correctly. Thanks
- bloatedmosquito

My family comes from there and was persecuted by the Nazis in the 30s. So you honestly believe the Germans went straight from the Weimar Republic to cremation? No, there was a long road between the two which involved creeping facism.

You are slipping into bigotry, look up the word. You're using my association in a group(anti vax mandate) to label me with negative stereotypes that are not based on facts regarding my person. That is textbook bigotry, stop it.

Do you know who popularized the term "for the greater good"? Hitler to justify his discrimination of minority groups.

Think before you write bigoted statements, just because it sounds good or Trudeau justified such bigotry doesn't mean it's ok. It's a very alt right thing for you to do.

Chicken pox, measles, flu, polio…and on and on…why do we have vaccines for healthy kids against all these diseases when they don’t have co-morbidities… damn forced vax’s.
- TurdFergeson

Any of those need to be taken to eat in a restaurant? Any of those mandated to be taken every 9 months in order to work?

Dude you're not a bright bulb if you can't tell the difference between polio(10%mortality amongst healthy children) and covid(0.00 percent mortality amongst healthy kids).

Try harder, do better. Come on here with your main instead of hiding like a coward behind your alt.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-94-percent-covid-among-caus-idUSKBN25U2IO

and you don't recognize you're Alt-Right?
- bloatedmosquito

Because I said 96 percent instead of 94 percent?

You really doubling down on being a bigot? Strange.

What political policies have I ever stated that are alt right?
The only thing that I agree with them on is personal bodily autonomy. FYI, that's also an anarchist view which isn't right wing at all.

Remember when I was getting into arguments for supporting the BLM riots? So alt-right of me.

I remember not supporting the police on multiple issues, another, very alt right thing for me to do.

Jesus it feels like you're being obsessively obstinate on this issue.
Am I pro corporation? Big business supporter, screw the unions? Tax cuts for the upper class. Lower the minimum wage? Take away workers rights? Police state good? Drugs and homosexual are bad? Nope. So the singular thing that I oppose, vaccine policy, makes me alt right because"only" the alt right oppose the federal vaccine policies. Dude, that is textbook bigotry as supported by Justin Trudeau when he started that those who oppose his views are right wing misogynists who are often racist.
Just Stop.

Even calling me an antivaxer is a bigotry. I'm not anti vaccine, all my children are up to date on their shots.

Stop being a bigot and discuss the actual topic of whether the government was coercive in their tactics to get everyone vaccinated.

My family comes from there and was persecuted by the Nazis in the 30s. So you honestly believe the Germans went straight from the Weimar Republic to cremation? No, there was a long road between the two which involved creeping facism.

You are slipping into bigotry, look up the word. You're using my association in a group(anti vax mandate) to label me with negative stereotypes that are not based on facts regarding my person. That is textbook bigotry, stop it.

Do you know who popularized the term "for the greater good"? Hitler to justify his discrimination of minority groups.

Think before you write bigoted statements, just because it sounds good or Trudeau justified such bigotry doesn't mean it's ok. It's a very alt right thing for you to do.
- Pres.cup

I've lived in Berlin the last year and a half, and have been hear for months prior spread out over numerous visits. I've visited concentration camps, been to every large and detailed holocaust memorial, been to the Jewish museum a few times, bike through and over and around monuments and information sites and stumbling stones and history every day, read articles about the history and "banality of evil" .... comparing what worldwide governments (including Trudeau) did during the pandemic to what happened in Nazi Germany is absurd. It's not even comparable, unless like the dumb little picture they're so general you can tie most anything together. So stop.

I've lived in Berlin the last year and a half, and have been hear for months prior spread out over numerous visits. I've visited concentration camps, been to every large and detailed holocaust memorial, been to the Jewish museum a few times, bike through and over and around monuments and information sites and stumbling stones and history every day, read articles about the history and "banality of evil" .... comparing what worldwide governments (including Trudeau) did during the pandemic to what happened in Nazi Germany is absurd. It's not even comparable, unless like the dumb little picture they're so general you can tie most anything together. So stop.
- NewYorkNuck

Late stage facist Germany and 1930s Germany are wildly different things. There were no death camps in 1935, what there was was a movement to remove undesirables from German society. I'm not just talking about Jewish people, I'm talking about the persecution of people for political affiliation. Communist party members being barred from government jobs, homosexual denied medical treatment. Writers being censored and fired for not conforming to the official narrative.

You're conflating late stage Nazis with early stage Nazis. The world loved Hitler in the mid 30s. The world loved Trudeau in the early 20s. There's not a big a difference as you'd like to believe there is.

Facts don't care about your imaginary fiction.

Late stage facist Germany and 1930s Germany are wildly different things. There were no death camps in 1935, what there was was a movement to remove undesirables from German society. I'm not just talking about Jewish people, I'm talking about the persecution of people for political affiliation. Communist party members being barred from government jobs, homosexual denied medical treatment. Writers being censored and fired for not conforming to the official narrative.

You're conflating late stage Nazis with early stage Nazis. The world loved Hitler in the mid 30s. The world loved Trudeau in the early 20s. There's not a big a difference as you'd like to believe there is.

Facts don't care about your imaginary fiction.
- Pres.cup

First, don't tell me what I am and am not doing. Have you even been here? Been to the sites, toured the Bundestag, the amount of pre- and post-Holocaust information there is here? Do you know what I have read and researched and am able to talk to? No? Shut the fuck up and don't assume then.

Second, you're so unbelievably arrogant. "Facts don't care about your imaginary fiction." You speak as if you're the ultimate truth here, as if your scrapings from the internet and strung together theories hold infallible weight as you duck and dodge people's questions and queries for evidence. As if your imaginary fiction doesn't bleed through constantly.

Anyways, I'm done, you're a pain to talk to because it's not a conversation and it's not worth it. Enjoy your day.

First, don't tell me what I am and am not doing. Have you even been here? Been to the sites, toured the Bundestag, the amount of pre- and post-Holocaust information there is here? Do you know what I have read and researched and am able to talk to? No? Shut the fuck up and don't assume then.

Second, you're so unbelievably arrogant. "Facts don't care about your imaginary fiction." You speak as if you're the ultimate truth here, as if your scrapings from the internet and strung together theories hold infallible weight as you duck and dodge people's questions and queries for evidence. As if your imaginary fiction doesn't bleed through constantly.

Anyways, I'm done, you're a pain to talk to because it's not a conversation and it's not worth it. Enjoy your day.
- NewYorkNuck

And here you go assuming my past, my heritage and my views to things outside the preview of the discussion, such an preeminent open mind you're displaying, well done.

And here folks is an example of what the "right" calls the tolerant left.

When challenged on facts that don't support their narrative they have a tendency to attack you personally and create a strawman to distract from the issue.

All the things in that meme happened and were encouraged by their leaders at the time. That's a fact.
Historically speaking, can you find me some other examples of other leaders allowing this to happen that disprove my assertion that the governments of Canada enacted policies that were inherently facist.

That's far different then saying the government of Canada is a Nazi regime, which admittedly is a BS statement.

Stay on target dude.

Any of those need to be taken to eat in a restaurant? Any of those mandated to be taken every 9 months in order to work?

Dude you're not a bright bulb if you can't tell the difference between polio(10%mortality amongst healthy children) and covid(0.00 percent mortality amongst healthy kids).

Try harder, do better. Come on here with your main instead of hiding like a coward behind your alt.
- Pres.cup

I dont have an alt. And yes many of those are mandated. And yes flu shot is every year. And if you can’t see the difference in an evolving pandemic and an endemic contagion then you’re clueless.

Any of those need to be taken to eat in a restaurant? Any of those mandated to be taken every 9 months in order to work?

Dude you're not a bright bulb if you can't tell the difference between polio(10%mortality amongst healthy children) and covid(0.00 percent mortality amongst healthy kids).

Try harder, do better. Come on here with your main instead of hiding like a coward behind your alt.
- Pres.cup

They need to be taken to go to school, is that good enough for you?

Late stage facist Germany and 1930s Germany are wildly different things. There were no death camps in 1935, what there was was a movement to remove undesirables from German society. I'm not just talking about Jewish people, I'm talking about the persecution of people for political affiliation. Communist party members being barred from government jobs, homosexual denied medical treatment. Writers being censored and fired for not conforming to the official narrative.

You're conflating late stage Nazis with early stage Nazis. The world loved Hitler in the mid 30s. The world loved Trudeau in the early 20s. There's not a big a difference as you'd like to believe there is.

Facts don't care about your imaginary fiction.
- Pres.cup

Absolute horsepoop!


1933

January 30

Adolf Hitler appointed Chancellor of Germany

March 22

Dachau concentration camp opens

April 1

Boycott of Jewish shops and businesses

April 7

Laws for Reestablishment of the Civil Service barred Jews from holding civil service, university, and state positions

April 26

Gestapo established

May 10

Public burning of books written by Jews, political dissidents, and others not approved by the state

July 14

Law stripping East European Jewish immigrants of German citizenship

Public opinion in the US was strongly hostile towards Nazi Germany and Adolf Hitler, but there was a strong aversion to war and to entanglement in European politics.[90][91] President Franklin D. Roosevelt was preoccupied with implementing domestic New Deal policies to handle the Great Depression and was unfocused on foreign policy.


With the coming to power of Hitler and the Nazis in 1933, relations worsened. In 1934, a secret report by the British Defence Requirements Committee called Germany the "ultimate potential enemy against whom all our "long range" defence policy must be directed,"[55][56] and called for an expeditionary force of five mechanised divisions and fourteen infantry divisions. However, budget restraints prevented the formation of a large force.[57]


From 1933 under Adolf Hitler, Germany began to pursue an aggressive policy in Europe. Meanwhile, France in the 1930s was tired, politically divided, and above all dreaded another war, which the French feared would again be fought on their soil for the third time, and again destroy a large percentage of their young men. France's stagnant population meant that it would find it difficult to withhold the sheer force of numbers of a German invasion; it was estimated Germany could put two men of fighting age in the field for every French soldier. Thus in the 1930s the French, with their British allies, pursued a policy of appeasement of Germany, failing to respond to the remilitarization of the Rhineland, although this put the German army on a larger stretch of the French border.

Why do you think the other politicians and people of authority were put in these camps?

So that there would be less obstruction to the worsening policies.

Dauchau concentration camp was investigated for deaths as early as 1933 because the injuries on the dead were inconsistent with the stories being told about their deaths.

Pres roasted.

I dont have an alt. And yes many of those are mandated. And yes flu shot is every year. And if you can’t see the difference in an evolving pandemic and an endemic contagion then you’re clueless.
- TurdFergeson

No they're not mandate for flying, for eating, even for school they're not mandatory, you just have to pull your kids from school in the event of an outbreak of they aren't vaccinated.

I'm in favor of traditional vaccines.
Are you conflating traditional vaccines(which work) with the flu vaccine(which sometime work).
How many times do you need to get boosted and catch covid before you think, hmm.... that was a waste of time?
Covid is endemic. Covid was never a danger to lie risk individuals. Frankly a vaccinated and boosted morbidly obese 20 year old is at a much higher risk(statistically) of being hospitalized and dying of covid then an unvaxxed healthy 65 year old.

Different strokes for different folks.

No they're not mandate for flying, for eating, even for school they're not mandatory, you just have to pull your kids from school in the event of an outbreak of they aren't vaccinated.

I'm in favor of traditional vaccines.
Are you conflating traditional vaccines(which work) with the flu vaccine(which sometime work).
How many times do you need to get boosted and catch covid before you think, hmm.... that was a waste of time?
Covid is endemic. Covid was never a danger to lie risk individuals. Frankly a vaccinated and boosted morbidly obese 20 year old is at a much higher risk(statistically) of being hospitalized and dying of covid then an unvaxxed healthy 65 year old.

Different strokes for different folks.
- Pres.cup

More bullpoop from Prez.

Absolute horsepoop!


1933

January 30

Adolf Hitler appointed Chancellor of Germany

March 22

Dachau concentration camp opens

April 1

Boycott of Jewish shops and businesses

April 7

Laws for Reestablishment of the Civil Service barred Jews from holding civil service, university, and state positions

April 26

Gestapo established

May 10

Public burning of books written by Jews, political dissidents, and others not approved by the state

July 14

Law stripping East European Jewish immigrants of German citizenship

Public opinion in the US was strongly hostile towards Nazi Germany and Adolf Hitler, but there was a strong aversion to war and to entanglement in European politics.
- golfingsince[90][91] President Franklin D. Roosevelt was preoccupied with implementing domestic New Deal policies to handle the Great Depression and was unfocused on foreign policy.


With the coming to power of Hitler and the Nazis in 1933, relations worsened. In 1934, a secret report by the British Defence Requirements Committee called Germany the "ultimate potential enemy against whom all our "long range" defence policy must be directed,"[55][56] and called for an expeditionary force of five mechanised divisions and fourteen infantry divisions. However, budget restraints prevented the formation of a large force.[57]


From 1933 under Adolf Hitler, Germany began to pursue an aggressive policy in Europe. Meanwhile, France in the 1930s was tired, politically divided, and above all dreaded another war, which the French feared would again be fought on their soil for the third time, and again destroy a large percentage of their young men. France's stagnant population meant that it would find it difficult to withhold the sheer force of numbers of a German invasion; it was estimated Germany could put two men of fighting age in the field for every French soldier. Thus in the 1930s the French, with their British allies, pursued a policy of appeasement of Germany, failing to respond to the remilitarization of the Rhineland, although this put the German army on a larger stretch of the French border.

The US has a large proportion of the population who were sympathetic to the Nazis, Henry Ford is a famous example as were many of the other political leaders of the time. You can't just erase history by looking for and at people who opposed the Nazis.

Secret reports were created for America to invade Canada at this time. You're conflating the issue.

Communist party members in the early/mid 30s were treated in a similar manner as the Canadian unvaxxed in 2021, for a period of time. Just because you didn't experience this doesn't mean it didn't happen.

The meme I posted is historically accurate. Find a single one that didn't.

The US has a large proportion of the population who were sympathetic to the Nazis, Henry Ford is a famous example as were many of the other political leaders of the time. You can't just erase history by looking for and at people who opposed the Nazis.

Secret reports were created for America to invade Canada at this time. You're conflating the issue.

Communist party members in the early/mid 30s were treated in a similar manner as the Canadian unvaxxed in 2021, for a period of time. Just because you didn't experience this doesn't mean it didn't happen.

The meme I posted is historically accurate. Find a single one that didn't.
- Pres.cup

They need to be taken to go to school, is that good enough for you?
- golfingsince

No they don't.
If there's an outbreak you have to pull your kids out of school.
Polio has a 10% mortality rate for all kids, including healthy ones.
Covid has a 0.00% mortality rate for healthy kids.
You're conflating the two issues.

Absolute horsepoop!


1933

January 30

Adolf Hitler appointed Chancellor of Germany

March 22

Dachau concentration camp opens

April 1

Boycott of Jewish shops and businesses

April 7

Laws for Reestablishment of the Civil Service barred Jews from holding civil service, university, and state positions

April 26

Gestapo established

May 10

Public burning of books written by Jews, political dissidents, and others not approved by the state

July 14

Law stripping East European Jewish immigrants of German citizenship

Public opinion in the US was strongly hostile towards Nazi Germany and Adolf Hitler, but there was a strong aversion to war and to entanglement in European politics.
- golfingsince[90][91] President Franklin D. Roosevelt was preoccupied with implementing domestic New Deal policies to handle the Great Depression and was unfocused on foreign policy.


With the coming to power of Hitler and the Nazis in 1933, relations worsened. In 1934, a secret report by the British Defence Requirements Committee called Germany the "ultimate potential enemy against whom all our "long range" defence policy must be directed,"[55][56] and called for an expeditionary force of five mechanised divisions and fourteen infantry divisions. However, budget restraints prevented the formation of a large force.[57]


From 1933 under Adolf Hitler, Germany began to pursue an aggressive policy in Europe. Meanwhile, France in the 1930s was tired, politically divided, and above all dreaded another war, which the French feared would again be fought on their soil for the third time, and again destroy a large percentage of their young men. France's stagnant population meant that it would find it difficult to withhold the sheer force of numbers of a German invasion; it was estimated Germany could put two men of fighting age in the field for every French soldier. Thus in the 1930s the French, with their British allies, pursued a policy of appeasement of Germany, failing to respond to the remilitarization of the Rhineland, although this put the German army on a larger stretch of the French border.

Not arguing any of these facts. They aren't the only facts though and Jewish people were not the only ones oppressed by the Nazis.

Just as the unvaxxed aren't the only ones oppressed by the federal government. Ffs, natives are still "property " of the crown. They just switched owners to Charles, that's (frank)ed up.