Because I said 96 percent instead of 94 percent?

You really doubling down on being a bigot? Strange.

What political policies have I ever stated that are alt right?
The only thing that I agree with them on is personal bodily autonomy. FYI, that's also an anarchist view which isn't right wing at all.

Remember when I was getting into arguments for supporting the BLM riots? So alt-right of me.

I remember not supporting the police on multiple issues, another, very alt right thing for me to do.

Jesus it feels like you're being obsessively obstinate on this issue.
Am I pro corporation? Big business supporter, screw the unions? Tax cuts for the upper class. Lower the minimum wage? Take away workers rights? Police state good? Drugs and homosexual are bad? Nope. So the singular thing that I oppose, vaccine policy, makes me alt right because"only" the alt right oppose the federal vaccine policies. Dude, that is textbook bigotry as supported by Justin Trudeau when he started that those who oppose his views are right wing misogynists who are often racist.
Just Stop.

Even calling me an antivaxer is a bigotry. I'm not anti vaccine, all my children are up to date on their shots.

Stop being a bigot and discuss the actual topic of whether the government was coercive in their tactics to get everyone vaccinated.
- Pres.cup

I am discussing and providing links to info that have formed my opinions. I'm not the one pushing unverifiable opinion, myopic examples, conspiracies, or am I using ridiculous comparisons.

I want to be "woke" so educate me. But what you're peddling is very suspect Prez. You're a known troll and poop disturber, so forgive me for being suspicious.

More bullpoop from Prez.
- golfingsince

Have you found a single case of a healthy 6 to 18 year old who died from covid alone in BC?

I'm waiting..... strange that you're having a hard time considering how deadly this pandemic was to healthy people.

- TurdFergeson

Do you not study history? Jesus you're ignorant of this period in history.

I am discussing and providing links to info that have formed my opinions. I'm not the one pushing unverifiable opinion, myopic examples, conspiracies, or am I using ridiculous comparisons.

I want to be "woke" so educate me. But what you're peddling is very suspect Prez. You're a known troll and poop disturber, so forgive me for being suspicious.
- bloatedmosquito

You're calling me alt right, dude. How is that contributing in any way to the discussion?

As I've asked golfing and turd, is my starting that healthy kids don't need to vax misinformation?

Did any healthy 6 to 18 year old die of covid over the pandemic.

Peoples risk factors are all different, treating them the same is silly and that's what the mandates did.

You're calling me alt right, dude. How is that contributing in any way to the discussion?
- Pres.cup

You keep spewing lies, bs and misinformation. How is that contributing?

You keep spewing lies, bs and misinformation. How is that contributing?
- TurdFergeson

Where did I lie, dude? Let's go over it, one thing at a time.

Was it when I said that no healthy 6 to 18 year old died of covid in BC?

Lie or truth

If a lie, please supply proof of these fatalities you claim exist.

If a truth, concede the point and let's move on to the next one.

Just one at a time. I'm arguing with at least 3 branch covidian devotees and it's hard to stay on topic with religious fanatics so let's keep it to single things while you prove my constant misinformation.

- TurdFergeson

Clearly he is.

What's truly sad is he's going to be a role model

Do you not study history? Jesus you're ignorant of this period in history.
- Pres.cup

I majored in it (frank) face

No they don't.
If there's an outbreak you have to pull your kids out of school.
Polio has a 10% mortality rate for all kids, including healthy ones.
Covid has a 0.00% mortality rate for healthy kids.
You're conflating the two issues.
- Pres.cup

They do in many provinces including the one I live in. That was the biggest holdup in getting my oldest into school here, we had to wait for copies of her vaccination records.

I majored in it (frank) face
- golfingsince

Great, then you should be able to comment on political dissidents being shut out of German society in the 30s as being victims of a facist regime.
Regardless of where society goes(again, not saying the government of Canada is Nazis) from here the things that happened to the unvaxxed for "the greater good" were things that also, at one point in history, things that happened to political dissidents in Germany.

The biggest issue that I have with my comparison to facist regimes isn't whether or not it happened, it's whether the Canadian government rectified the issue when they deemed it safe to do so. I really don't understand why nobody has used that angle to counter my argument....

Is the use of the term facist inflammatory, yes, admittedly so, but so were the measures and discrimination the PM put to those opposed to the covid vax.

Clearly he is.

What's truly sad is he's going to be a role model
- golfingsince

Ah, such tolerance of differing opinions, so refreshing.

Find a case of a healthy kid 6 to 18 dying of covid in BC yet or are you going to concede that point so we can go to the next one?

You've accused me of spreading lies, disprove my statement.

They do in many provinces including the one I live in. That was the biggest holdup in getting my oldest into school here, we had to wait for copies of her vaccination records.
- golfingsince

Even in Ontario, I thought that you just had to provide a letter stating why they weren't vaxxed(religion is the big one, specifically jehovas(sp) witnesses) and they allow entry.

I'm for traditional vaccines. Just not into giving them to someone who's not at risk which is what the mandates did.

You're calling me alt right, dude. How is that contributing in any way to the discussion?

As I've asked golfing and turd, is my starting that healthy kids don't need to vax misinformation?

Did any healthy 6 to 18 year old die of covid over the pandemic.

Peoples risk factors are all different, treating them the same is silly and that's what the mandates did.


- Pres.cup

Yes, 72 Canadians died under the age of 19 due to COVID. Fact.

I have found no information or statistic that states that these young people died because of COVID plus "comorbidities". It just states COVID deaths.

I have provided links from reputable sources backing this information up. Now it's your turn. I'll refrain from name calling and wait patently for your response.

Yes, 72 Canadians died under the age of 19 due to COVID. Fact.

I have found no information or statistic that states that these young people died because of COVID plus "comorbidities". It just states COVID deaths.

I have provided links from reputable sources backing this information up. Now it's your turn. I'll refrain from name calling and wait patently for your response.
- bloatedmosquito

Just the quickest link I could find and quickly read.

Not a single healthy 6 to 18 child died in bc from covid. A 4 year old did and a 19 year old did. I can't find the article on the 4yo but it discussed them being the youngest death without co-morbidities in BC.

Here's an excerpt from a link I'll share below.
I bolded the relevant part. Statistically, during the delta wave the death rate for a healthy under 19yo was 1 in a million which is 0.000001% chance of dying, statistically, zero.

I'll say it again, healthy children were never at statistical risk of dying from covid.

Of 3,105 deaths from all causes among the 12 million or so people under 18 in England between March 2020 and February 2021, 25 were attributable to COVID-19 — a rate of about 2 for every million people in this age range. None had asthma or type-1 diabetes, the authors note, and about half had conditions that put them at a higher risk than healthy children of dying from any cause.

And here's the link. I'm not being obstinate, I've researched the risks to my children and taken appropriate steps to ensure their safety.

https://www.nature.com/ar...af-4bf1-b8fe-de7f8b0258b4

Just the quickest link I could find and quickly read.

Not a single healthy 6 to 18 child died in bc from covid. A 4 year old did and a 19 year old did. I can't find the article on the 4yo but it discussed them being the youngest death without co-morbidities in BC.

Here's an excerpt from a link I'll share below.
I bolded the relevant part. Statistically, during the delta wave the death rate for a healthy under 19yo was 1 in a million which is 0.000001% chance of dying, statistically, zero.

I'll say it again, healthy children were never at statistical risk of dying from covid.

Of 3,105 deaths from all causes among the 12 million or so people under 18 in England between March 2020 and February 2021, 25 were attributable to COVID-19 — a rate of about 2 for every million people in this age range. None had asthma or type-1 diabetes, the authors note, and about half had conditions that put them at a higher risk than healthy children of dying from any cause.

And here's the link. I'm not being obstinate, I've researched the risks to my children and taken appropriate steps to ensure their safety.

https://www.nature.com/ar...af-4bf1-b8fe-de7f8b0258b4
- Pres.cup

Agree, death from COVID is very rare under the age of 19 in England before July 2021 (based on the info from the article you posted).

I'll wait for you to link Canadian statistics, because as you said, not everyone can be treated the same. England statistics may not be relatable to Canada.

"Peoples risk factors are all different, treating them the same is silly"

Ah, such tolerance of differing opinions, so refreshing.

Find a case of a healthy kid 6 to 18 dying of covid in BC yet or are you going to concede that point so we can go to the next one?

You've accused me of spreading lies, disprove my statement.
- Pres.cup

It's not the differing opinion that I'm intolerant of, it's the constant spewing of bullpoop like it's fact.

Great, then you should be able to comment on political dissidents being shut out of German society in the 30s as being victims of a facist regime.
Regardless of where society goes(again, not saying the government of Canada is Nazis) from here the things that happened to the unvaxxed for "the greater good" were things that also, at one point in history, things that happened to political dissidents in Germany.

The biggest issue that I have with my comparison to facist regimes isn't whether or not it happened, it's whether the Canadian government rectified the issue when they deemed it safe to do so. I really don't understand why nobody has used that angle to counter my argument....

Is the use of the term facist inflammatory, yes, admittedly so, but so were the measures and discrimination the PM put to those opposed to the covid vax.
- Pres.cup

The only issue I encountered that was a result of a federal mandate regarding the vaccine was that as an employee that falls under the jurisdiction of the federal government there was a vaccine mandate for about a year.

Some people I work with stood their ground and were on unpaid leave.

Every other mandate came from our provincial conservative government. Really cool things like you couldn't have family over for thanksgiving dinner but you could all go pay a fortune at a restaurant.

Agree, death from COVID is very rare under the age of 19 in England before July 2021 (based on the info from the article you posted).

I'll wait for you to link Canadian statistics, because as you said, not everyone can be treated the same. England statistics may not be relatable to Canada.

"Peoples risk factors are all different, treating them the same is silly"
- bloatedmosquito

Solid use of the bolded quote.

When I have half a moment I'll try to find Canadian statistics. Bccdc used to list morbidity stratified by age, gender, vaccine status and comorbidity but they stopped doing so early in 2022. For me they stopped because the data didn't support the narrative but the official line was to "streamline" the data Cookeville.

The only issue I encountered that was a result of a federal mandate regarding the vaccine was that as an employee that falls under the jurisdiction of the federal government there was a vaccine mandate for about a year.

Some people I work with stood their ground and were on unpaid leave.

Every other mandate came from our provincial conservative government. Really cool things like you couldn't have family over for thanksgiving dinner but you could all go pay a fortune at a restaurant.
- golfingsince

My partner had a 12yo daughter who couldn't fly to see her father in NB due to the flight mandates. That was not OK.

In BC, provincial employees all had to be vaxxed, whether they worked from home or not. BC helped create the federal policy and the vax pass. Supposedly BC and Quebec had the heaviest mandates.

The unpaid leave and denial of unemployment insurance turned back the dial on workers rights which as a leftist I disagree with.

No unvaxxed in bc could do much of anything at public facilities, theaters, restaurants, play organized sports, etc....

The organ donor thing is also something I disagree with.

It's not the differing opinion that I'm intolerant of, it's the constant spewing of bullpoop like it's fact.
- golfingsince

I'm not stating things that aren't fact. They are admittedly inflammatory though, I'll concede that.

I also never said the vax wasn't good for a portion of the population, it's the heavy handed and coercive nature of the mandates that screamed discrimination against certain segments of the population which I oppose.

I don't think for a second that Erin OTOOLE would have done anything better then Trudeau which is why I didn't support him.

My partner had a 12yo daughter who couldn't fly to see her father in NB due to the flight mandates. That was not OK.

In BC, provincial employees all had to be vaxxed, whether they worked from home or not. BC helped create the federal policy and the vax pass. Supposedly BC and Quebec had the heaviest mandates.

The unpaid leave and denial of unemployment insurance turned back the dial on workers rights which as a leftist I disagree with.

No unvaxxed in bc could do much of anything at public facilities, theaters, restaurants, play organized sports, etc....

The organ donor thing is also something I disagree with.
- Pres.cup

Unable to fly is a consequence of personal choice. There are other means of transportation as inconvenient as they may be. Hardly creeping fascism. Besides, depending on when she wanted to travel she would have been turned back in NB because policies were the strictest in the maritimes.

It seems to me most of your issues are with all the levels of democratic government worldwide that made some temporary rules during a pandemic. Most people were onside with them.

The thing is, your personal freedom isn't worth any more than mine. My daughter called my wife a fascist the other day because she made her wear snow pants to school.

Had to laugh

Solid use of the bolded quote.

When I have half a moment I'll try to find Canadian statistics. Bccdc used to list morbidity stratified by age, gender, vaccine status and comorbidity but they stopped doing so early in 2022. For me they stopped because the data didn't support the narrative but the official line was to "streamline" the data Cookeville.
- Pres.cup

Why would you assume that? Are you suggesting people who have dedicated themselves to healing people would falsify data on-mass to support a political narrative? Without a single person blowing the whistle?

That's called a conspiracy. Wonder what minority group subscribe to unfounded conspiracies? Hmmmmm.

Holy fuck.

Canadians now expect to need $1.7-million in savings in order to retire, BMO survey finds.

https://financialpost.com...93-9e50-bf3e8d85174b/amp/

That’s a lot of cake to have sitting in savings.

Why would you assume that? Are you suggesting people who have dedicated themselves to healing people would falsify data on-mass to support a political narrative? Without a single person blowing the whistle?

That's called a conspiracy. Wonder what minority group subscribe to unfounded conspiracies? Hmmmmm.
- bloatedmosquito

None of the government administrators who oversee the collection of data is a doctor, nurse or other Healthcare practitioner. Believing government employees don't follow the governments official narrative is silly season. It's the job of them to implement the governments desire to the best of their ability, to do otherwise would be a failure to do their job.

Talk about believing in fairy tales.