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Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Feb 12 @ 7:56 PM ET
Yes, you’re repeating yourself. Once again, thank you for sharing your opinion. I’ll make sure to file it in the appropriate location.
- bloatedmosquito


You're refusing to answer the question of whether or not healthy children need the jab or whether you believe the government made all the information available to actually make an informed decision.

I submit that I have provided proof that healthy children are not at statistical risk from covid and the government shaped the narrative in such a fashion that precludes informed decision making on this specific issue.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Feb 12 @ 11:08 PM ET
I should be getting paid. Being burdened with the responsibility of educating you people is exhausting.
- bloatedmosquito

I don't know why you're wasting your fucking time.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Feb 13 @ 12:30 AM ET
I don't know why you're wasting your fucking time.
- A_SteamingLombardi


Because he knows something is off but fundamentally disagrees with me on what it is.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Feb 13 @ 1:02 AM ET
Because he knows something is off but fundamentally disagrees with me on what it is.
- Pres.cup

No, because arguing with an idiot makes you an idiot.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Feb 13 @ 1:06 AM ET
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Feb 13 @ 1:14 AM ET
You're right, safe implies negligible risk.

There's a demographic that is at statistically zero risk from covid. Any medical intervention that is not statistically zero risk shouldn't be considered safe.
That includes the risk of unknown long term side effects.

There is zero reason to give any drug that has zero long term studies proving its safety to anyone with statistically zero risk from what the drug is supposed to "protect" then from.

It's mind bogglingly simple.

Coercion and censorship to increase uptake to that demographic isn't just wrong it's evil.
The governmental roll, not the parents.

- Pres.cup


Everything you say is so blown out of proportion it’s impossible to take anything you say seriously.

Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Feb 13 @ 10:16 AM ET
Everything you say is so blown out of proportion it’s impossible to take anything you say seriously.
- 1970vintage


I know more people who died or were hospitalized within 2 weeks of the vax then died within a month of catching covid.

How is the fact that kids who are healthy aren't at statistical risk from covid blowing anything out of proportion?

Facts are facts even if they aren't feelings.
Danny Bomber
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.01.2017

Feb 13 @ 10:22 AM ET
I know more people who died or were hospitalized within 2 weeks of the vax then died within a month of catching covid.

How is the fact that kids who are healthy aren't at statistical risk from covid blowing anything out of proportion?

Facts are facts even if they aren't feelings.

- Pres.cup

CovidBuzz
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Feb 13 @ 12:55 PM ET




Apparently there’s several Canadians with half a brain as well.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Feb 13 @ 12:58 PM ET
I know more people who died or were hospitalized within 2 weeks of the vax then died within a month of catching covid.

How is the fact that kids who are healthy aren't at statistical risk from covid blowing anything out of proportion?

Facts are facts even if they aren't feelings.

- Pres.cup


You’re so full of poop. I don’t believe you. How do I know that each of those people didn’t have some other (known or unknown) underlying condition?

I know one person who had a terrible reaction. He’s back and healthy now, so I’m not dismissing that it’s a risk, but the “there’s a greater risk from getting vaccinated than from not” it total bullpoop.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Feb 13 @ 2:26 PM ET
You’re so full of poop. I don’t believe you. How do I know that each of those people didn’t have some other (known or unknown) underlying condition?

I know one person who had a terrible reaction. He’s back and healthy now, so I’m not dismissing that it’s a risk, but the “there’s a greater risk from getting vaccinated than from not” it total bullpoop.

- 1970vintage


They all probably had comorbidites to be honest, most people who die usually have commorbidities, that poor them at higher risk of death.... The facts are the government lied and people are still believing them. Kinda a Stockholm syndrome thing going on.

Alot of it has to do with the choices people made during the pandemic. My friends Pam and Harvey made the decision to get vaxxed together. He had massive brain aneurysm 2 weeks later. She never got the next booster but for her to publicly admit that it was the vax would mean that she would have to carry guilt from making the decision that killed her husband. This is a real life example.

How am I full of poop. I've proven no healthy kids died of covid in bc.
I've proven that the government used coercion and lies to increase vaccine uptake to those at zero statistical risk.

How is any of this still ok with you? Weird
Danny Bomber
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.01.2017

Feb 13 @ 2:33 PM ET
They all probably had comorbidites to be honest. The facts are the government lied and people are still believing them. Kinda a Stockholm syndrome thing going on.

Alot of it has to do with the choices people made during the pandemic. My friends Pam and Harvey made the decision to get vaxxed together. He had massive brain aneurysm 2 weeks later. She never got the next booster but for her to publicly admit that it was the vax would mean that she would have to carry guilt from making the decision that killed her husband. This is a real life example.

How am I full of poop. I've proven no healthy kids died of covid in bc.
I've proven that the government used coercion and lies to increase vaccine uptake to those at zero statistical risk.

How is any of this still ok with you? Weird

- Pres.cup

Drama queen.
You keep shifting the goal posts, a very alt-right strategy. That and a trail of continuous lies and tales of victimhood. Pretty pathetic to troll and spam a hockey site with your fear, hate and paranoia. It's hard to imagine a 15 year old boy as a parent.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Feb 13 @ 2:33 PM ET
You're refusing to answer the question of whether or not healthy children need the jab or whether you believe the government made all the information available to actually make an informed decision.

I submit that I have provided proof that healthy children are not at statistical risk from covid and the government shaped the narrative in such a fashion that precludes informed decision making on this specific issue.

- Pres.cup


Hey, I already dropped my mic. I ain't picking it up just to drop it again.

*takes victory lap while high fiving the neo-lefties*
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Feb 13 @ 2:48 PM ET

Alot of it has to do with the choices people made during the pandemic. My friends Pam and Harvey made the decision to get vaxxed together. He had massive brain aneurysm 2 weeks later. She never got the next booster but for her to publicly admit that it was the vax would mean that she would have to carry guilt from making the decision that killed her husband. This is a real life example.

- Pres.cup


Correlation doesn't equal causation, unless you have evidence from her/the doctors/autopsy that 100% links the vaccine to his brain aneurysm.

Also, "made the decision to get vaxxed together" and "she would have to carry guilt from making the decision that killed her husband". Did THEY make the decision, or did SHE make the decision? Competing narratives.

Sorry about your friend's death.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Feb 13 @ 3:17 PM ET
Drama queen.
You keep shifting the goal posts, a very alt-right strategy. That and a trail of continuous lies and tales of victimhood. Pretty pathetic to troll and spam a hockey site with your fear, hate and paranoia. It's hard to imagine a 15 year old boy as a parent.

- Danny Bomber



Hey Marwood, did your bubble Demko account get banned?

Your mother would be very proud of you, I know.

Where the lies in what I said. Perhaps you can find the elusive healthy 6 to 19yo who died of covid in BC? Many have tried and all have failed
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Feb 13 @ 3:20 PM ET
Correlation doesn't equal causation, unless you have evidence from her/the doctors/autopsy that 100% links the vaccine to his brain aneurysm.

Also, "made the decision to get vaxxed together" and "she would have to carry guilt from making the decision that killed her husband". Did THEY make the decision, or did SHE make the decision? Competing narratives.

Sorry about your friend's death.

- NewYorkNuck


They decided together as most people I know did.
Autopsy showed a massive brain aneurysm within 2 weeks of the jab.
If a covid death is a death within 28 days of a positive covid test(which was the Canadian standard) then why would a death within 2 weeks of the jab not be considered a possible vax death?
Apply the standard equally to both of you want accurate results.

It's poopty, long time friends.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Feb 13 @ 3:21 PM ET
Hey, I already dropped my mic. I ain't picking it up just to drop it again.

*takes victory lap while high fiving the neo-lefties*

- bloatedmosquito




NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Feb 13 @ 3:39 PM ET
They decided together as most people I know did.
Autopsy showed a massive brain aneurysm within 2 weeks of the jab.
If a covid death is a death within 28 days of a positive covid test(which was the Canadian standard) then why would a death within 2 weeks of the jab not be considered a possible vax death?
Apply the standard equally to both of you want accurate results.

It's poopty, long time friends.

- Pres.cup


If they decided together, then she didn't make him do it, he chose with his own free will. "She never got the next booster but for her to publicly admit that it was the vax would mean that she would have to carry guilt from making the decision that killed her husband." You're just projecting.

"why would a death within 2 weeks of the jab not be considered a possible vax death? " Because there is (as far as you or I know in this case) absolutely zero evidence to claim that. It might be because of the vaccine, it might also be completely random. There would have to be an autopsy.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Feb 13 @ 4:14 PM ET
If they decided together, then she didn't make him do it, he chose with his own free will. "She never got the next booster but for her to publicly admit that it was the vax would mean that she would have to carry guilt from making the decision that killed her husband." You're just projecting.

"why would a death within 2 weeks of the jab not be considered a possible vax death? " Because there is (as far as you or I know in this case) absolutely zero evidence to claim that. It might be because of the vaccine, it might also be completely random. There would have to be an autopsy.

- NewYorkNuck


Guilt is a terrible thing. Complicity in the death of a loved one is a horrible thing that occurs whenever you're involved in any way to these sorts of tragedies. It's the nature of things, unavoidable in the context of human psychology. I had a friend die as a result of his alcoholism and despite not being directly involved I still carry some questions of how I could have helped them in some way that would have avoided that fate. If you don't or can't feel that way when a loved one dies then you're a psychopath.

I already said the autopsy said it was a massive aneurysm.

Using similar criteria for covid deaths isn't that big of a stretch, sure it'll pick up some that aren't related just like the following picked up unrelated covid deaths.
There is zero evidence that a suicide in Toronto 2 weeks after a covid positive test would be a covid death and yet it would be counted as a covid death because it occurred within 28 days of a positive test. The same rules should be considered for a vax death especially considering the history of censorship around this topic. If you can't see this then I can't help you.

You'll argue that's not what they implicitly say so I'll quote it and ask you to explain how it doesn't say it.
A death that occurs in an active case of COVID-19 is counted as a COVID-19 death


https://lakesuperior.news...ms-as-covid-19-fatalities
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Feb 13 @ 4:22 PM ET
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Feb 13 @ 5:01 PM ET

- A_SteamingLombardi


Your most informative and smartest post to date, here's a gold star, well done
🌟
Danny Bomber
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.01.2017

Feb 13 @ 5:29 PM ET
Your most informative and smartest post to date, here's a gold star, well done
🌟

- Pres.cup

Wasn't it a gold star that the Nazis put on the Jewish prisoner's uniform in the concentration camps?
Pretty despicable comment to make to a poster who has many times, told us he's Jewish.
Each day you stoop to a new low.
Bubble Demko
Vancouver Canucks
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 01.27.2021

Feb 13 @ 6:02 PM ET

Hey Marwood, did your bubble Demko account get banned?

Your mother would be very proud of you, I know.

Where the lies in what I said. Perhaps you can find the elusive healthy 6 to 19yo who died of covid in BC? Many have tried and all have failed

- Pres.cup


Ya see, this is exactly why you're a complete dipshit, among a litany of reasons. But I'm definitely not Marwood. Nor am I banned for pointing out how much of a stupid fucktard you are.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Feb 13 @ 6:35 PM ET
Wasn't it a gold star that the Nazis put on the Jewish prisoner's uniform in the concentration camps?
Pretty despicable comment to make to a poster who has many times, told us he's Jewish.
Each day you stoop to a new low.

- Danny Bomber


Now you're playing the race card, Marwood?

Jesus you're getting worse and worse.

Learn some critical thinking, it's never too late.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Feb 13 @ 6:41 PM ET
Ya see, this is exactly why you're a complete dipshit, among a litany of reasons. But I'm definitely not Marwood. Nor am I banned for pointing out how much of a stupid fucktard you are.
- Bubble Demko


Nice, another example of a tolerant liberal posting in a very tolerant manner.

Did you find the example of my being wrong about healthy kids dying in BC or have you admitted that you were wrong when you said that was a lie.

It's kinda a common thread in here, I post a fact, Branch Covidian Cultists say it's a lie. I ask for a single example showing it's a lie. More Branch Covidians pile on saying the same thing and patting themselves on the back for displaying their complete devotion to their religious order.

Pages go by without a single one of them being able to prove the simple fact that I posted. All the hallmarks of devoted cultists. It's great, I couldn't make up a better example of how covid has turned a small percentage of people into religious fanatics.

So good.
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