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1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Aug 22 @ 1:31 AM ET
Name the day, court, and time. I'm in.
- Load Management


I'll be in Sooke tomorrow. Out front of the liquor store at 2 pm?
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Aug 22 @ 6:14 PM ET
I'll be in Sooke tomorrow. Out front of the liquor store at 2 pm?
- 1970vintage


For drinking or Pickleball? I could be coaxed either way.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Aug 22 @ 8:22 PM ET
For drinking or Pickleball? I could be coaxed either way.
- Load Management


Wife and I waited, Jay and Silent Bob style out front of Buffy’s for an hour.

Camping at the potholes, River front spot, so good!
penguininnevada
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: member of the honor roll, assistant to the assistant manager of the movie theater
Joined: 09.01.2008

Aug 22 @ 10:56 PM ET
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Aug 23 @ 12:18 PM ET
Wife and I waited, Jay and Silent Bob style out front of Buffy’s for an hour.

Camping at the potholes, River front spot, so good!

- 1970vintage


I wish I knew. I live just down the road from Buffy's. But alas, I was at the Government Liquor store. Tears in my eyes. Pickleballs in hand.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Aug 23 @ 7:55 PM ET
Name the day, court, and time. I'm in.
- Load Management


I suggest Marwood as the referee
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Aug 23 @ 10:08 PM ET
Trump interview go to minute 43 lol

https://twitter.com/Tucke...tatus/1694513603251241143
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Aug 23 @ 11:50 PM ET
Trump interview go to minute 43 lol

https://twitter.com/Tucke...tatus/1694513603251241143

- VanHockeyGuy


Is it when he’s talking about shower water restricters?
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Aug 24 @ 10:01 AM ET
I suggest Marwood as the referee
- golfingsince

The courts have this thing about me and pickleball courts. Something about 300 metres and stuff.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Aug 24 @ 10:18 AM ET
Is it when he’s talking about shower water restricters?
- bloatedmosquito


Like it or not, he's probably going to be re-elected, despite legal proceedings.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Aug 24 @ 11:51 AM ET
Like it or not, he's probably going to be re-elected, despite legal proceedings.
- VanHockeyGuy


He's going to be the Republican candidate... re-elected as President isn't so probable. If he's convicted, I think you'll see more and more republicans just not turn out.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Aug 24 @ 12:11 PM ET
He's going to be the Republican candidate... re-elected as President isn't so probable. If he's convicted, I think you'll see more and more republicans just not turn out.
- NewYorkNuck


Trump can still be elected while he has charges against him. He still has a huge following. The US is messed up, this is just part of the process. He'll get more votes than Biden this time around.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Aug 24 @ 1:16 PM ET
Trump can still be elected while he has charges against him. He still has a huge following. The US is messed up, this is just part of the process. He'll get more votes than Biden this time around.
- VanHockeyGuy


Oh ya, I'm not saying he can't be elected. I'm just saying as these trials go forward, and news comes out of the evidence against him (especially if the Georgia trial is televised), you'll see more moderate/uneasy Republican voters not show up. Trump has his base (about 1/3 of Republican voters) that will come out no matter what... but there's a large section unaccounted for there.

Either way, it'd be better if there were better and younger candidates, and even better if they just revamped their entire stupid electoral system. But ya know, 250 year old papers dictates all.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Aug 24 @ 4:46 PM ET
Oh ya, I'm not saying he can't be elected. I'm just saying as these trials go forward, and news comes out of the evidence against him (especially if the Georgia trial is televised), you'll see more moderate/uneasy Republican voters not show up. Trump has his base (about 1/3 of Republican voters) that will come out no matter what... but there's a large section unaccounted for there.

Either way, it'd be better if there were better and younger candidates, and even better if they just revamped their entire stupid electoral system. But ya know, 250 year old papers dictates all.

- NewYorkNuck


I think Trump is the only candidate Biden can beat, mostly for the reasons you already laid out, and I think any other republican candidate, no matter their policy or ideology views would win the election in a landslide.

Trump is like Peter Pan. If you stop believing in him he just fades back into mara mara land.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Aug 24 @ 5:03 PM ET
I think Trump is the only candidate Biden can beat, mostly for the reasons you already laid out, and I think any other republican candidate, no matter their policy or ideology views would win the election in a landslide.

Trump is like Peter Pan. If you stop believing in him he just fades back into mara mara land.

- 1970vintage


Trump is a demagogue just like the late Steven Hawking said. He has more followers than you may think, regardless of his legal issues he can very well get back in. He says what a good majority of Americans are afraid to.

History always repeats itself.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Aug 24 @ 5:33 PM ET
Trump is a demagogue just like the late Steven Hawking said. He has more followers than you may think, regardless of his legal issues he can very well get back in. He says what a good majority of Americans are afraid to.

History always repeats itself.

- VanHockeyGuy


I think there are enough sane, moral, ethical Republicans that will either vote for Biden or more likely just not vote at all. And I disagree that other people want to say the things he says but are afraid to. Anyone who can’t see past his BS is a moron, and morons don’t stop to think before they speak.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Aug 24 @ 6:24 PM ET
I think there are enough sane, moral, ethical Republicans that will either vote for Biden or more likely just not vote at all. And I disagree that other people want to say the things he says but are afraid to. Anyone who can’t see past his BS is a moron, and morons don’t stop to think before they speak.
- 1970vintage

Yup.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Aug 24 @ 9:43 PM ET
I think there are enough sane, moral, ethical Republicans that will either vote for Biden or more likely just not vote at all. And I disagree that other people want to say the things he says but are afraid to. Anyone who can’t see past his BS is a moron, and morons don’t stop to think before they speak.
- 1970vintage


Don't underestimate how many racists/rednecks lurk in the shadows in the US as well as Canada. The 2024 election will be a sh*tshow.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Aug 24 @ 10:14 PM ET
Don't underestimate how many racists/rednecks lurk in the shadows in the US as well as Canada. The 2024 election will be a sh*tshow.
- VanHockeyGuy
, So you can lie, cheat, steal, denigrate women and minorities, steal government classified documents, get indicted on numerous criminal charges, sucker people into funding your legal fees and the vast majority of the Americans would vote for him because they think the same way and want more?
Then they are a seriously (frank)ed up nation and the only way out is an American civil war., because this isn’t the way civilized nations operate in a Democracy.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Aug 25 @ 1:37 AM ET
, So you can lie, cheat, steal, denigrate women and minorities, steal government classified documents, get indicted on numerous criminal charges, sucker people into funding your legal fees and the vast majority of the Americans would vote for him because they think the same way and want more?
Then they are a seriously (frank)ed up nation and the only way out is an American civil war., because this isn’t the way civilized nations operate in a Democracy.

- Makita


Good thing Canada is making a game plan if the US goes full on Trump-inspired authoritarian:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/p...arian-game-plan-1.6939369

NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Aug 25 @ 1:41 AM ET
I think Trump is the only candidate Biden can beat, mostly for the reasons you already laid out, and I think any other republican candidate, no matter their policy or ideology views would win the election in a landslide.

Trump is like Peter Pan. If you stop believing in him he just fades back into mara mara land.

- 1970vintage


Probably. Unfortunately, no other Republican candidate can beat Trump. There was a good Daily episode about it the other day, which is both funny and terrible in how much support in the polling he got. The episode is about DeSantis' campaign stumbles, but juxtaposes that against Trump:
https://www.nytimes.com/2...ly/desantis-campaign.html
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Aug 25 @ 9:52 AM ET
M A G A
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Aug 25 @ 11:30 AM ET
Probably. Unfortunately, no other Republican candidate can beat Trump. There was a good Daily episode about it the other day, which is both funny and terrible in how much support in the polling he got. The episode is about DeSantis' campaign stumbles, but juxtaposes that against Trump:
https://www.nytimes.com/2...ly/desantis-campaign.html

- NewYorkNuck


Yeah,Ron DeSanctamoneos would be awful. He seems smart, but he’s as big a moron as Trump.

I wonder how accurate this polling is. I wonder if moderate people are being included. If you take a poll from a bunch of crazy people you’ll get crazy responses… Mike Pence, even though he’s a religious nut and will continue down the anti-abortion route is probably the guy gets things back on the rails. He’d be the GOP’s Biden, just 20 years younger.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Aug 25 @ 12:09 PM ET
Yeah,Ron DeSanctamoneos would be awful. He seems smart, but he’s as big a moron as Trump.

I wonder how accurate this polling is. I wonder if moderate people are being included. If you take a poll from a bunch of crazy people you’ll get crazy responses… Mike Pence, even though he’s a religious nut and will continue down the anti-abortion route is probably the guy gets things back on the rails. He’d be the GOP’s Biden, just 20 years younger.

- 1970vintage


I would assume the polling is as accurate as polling is... which can be very accurate or pretty damn off. https://www.nytimes.com/2...od.html#commentsContainer

The Daily from yesterday was about the Republican debate, and one of the hosts said that Pence is basically the classic/traditional American conservative, and Trump (Ramaswamy as the sort of right-wing stand-in at the debate) are the face of the "new" GOP... and the party/base is still grappling with that decision. Interesting way of looking at it.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Aug 25 @ 1:28 PM ET
It starts already, get the popcorn out!

https://twitter.com/EdKra...tatus/1695058792700911711
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