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bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Sep 29 @ 5:18 PM ET
Nice try but you are just trying to bullpoop your way out of facts. He is/has been supported by the Ultra Nationalists in Ukraine. He has been supporting and protecting them. He has been funded by them. He has never gone against the Bandera idealists... Bandera who was responsible for killing around 80,000 jews. Here in the west we have branded these groups Nazis and terrorist's in law bills even... just to turn around and train, fund and arm them.

Your post here does more to explain what a back stabbing piece of poop he is. There were no shortage of greedy people in Naziz Germany selling out there own people. This will never change as long as man exists.

Holy poop are you naive.

- boonerbuck


Zelenskyy is a "piece of poop"? Sounds like you're getting emotional comrade.

I think he's admirable to stand up to a bully, trying to defend his nation against extinction. We'll just agree to disagree.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Sep 29 @ 5:26 PM ET
Zelenskyy is a "piece of poop"? Sounds like your getting emotional comrade.

I think he's admirable to stand up to a bully, trying to defend his nation against extinction. We'll just agree to disagree.

- bloatedmosquito


You are talking about a bully who is banning media and opposition groups. Your "budding democracy" is now up to 11 opposition groups banned. You are talking about a bully who used these Ultra Nationalists you make excuses for kill civilians in Donetsk before Putin's invasion of eastern Ukraine and he still attacking these same civilians daily. Typical position you take. Defend a bully for standing up to a bully.


You suck at this.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Sep 29 @ 6:15 PM ET
You are talking about a bully who is banning media and opposition groups. Your "budding democracy" is now up to 11 opposition groups banned. You are talking about a bully who used these Ultra Nationalists you make excuses for kill civilians in Donetsk before Putin's invasion of eastern Ukraine and he still attacking these same civilians daily. Typical position you take. Defend a bully for standing up to a bully.


You suck at this.

- boonerbuck


You think this is a competition? You think you’re winning something?

Can someone give this parrot the trophy he thinks he deserves? God knows he needs the affirmation.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 29 @ 7:09 PM ET
The Booner v Bloated debates are the absolute best

I agree that Zelensky is a piece of shit. I also think Putin is a piece of shit.

My wife leaves on Monday to visit her parents in Crimea. This is the first time she’s actually been nervous to travel home.

I blame the US for this ever escalating to the point it’s at now.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Sep 29 @ 8:16 PM ET
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Sep 29 @ 8:19 PM ET
The Booner v Bloated debates are the absolute best

I agree that Zelensky is a piece of shit. I also think Putin is a piece of shit.

My wife leaves on Monday to visit her parents in Crimea. This is the first time she’s actually been nervous to travel home.

I blame the US for this ever escalating to the point it’s at now.

- 1970vintage



We are here to entertain.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Sep 29 @ 8:35 PM ET
The Booner v Bloated debates are the absolute best

I agree that Zelensky is a piece of shit. I also think Putin is a piece of shit.

My wife leaves on Monday to visit her parents in Crimea. This is the first time she’s actually been nervous to travel home.

I blame the US for this ever escalating to the point it’s at now.

- 1970vintage


God dammit we are pretty much on the same page on this.


How anyone can call Zelenski's Ukraine a "budding democracy" is laughable. It's not even better than Putin's "democracy" which is a sham. When the war started, it had already been rated worse in Europe and it's gotten even worse.

As far as the the USA... what did people think was going to happen when the USA supported the coup and then put Poroshenko in who was rabidly anti Russian?(Victoria Nuland's caught red handed in recorded phone conversation) Ukraine and Russia were allies up until that point. Do people think Russia was just going to pack up and give up their Crimea base that controls the Black Sea which they had since Catherine The Great? Would they idly stand by while Russians in the east were getting slaughtered by a NATO supported group of nationalist militias? NATO certainly didnt stand pat when this was happening in the Balkans. Was Russia going to let Ukraine become NATO eventually? USA knew all of this... they went forward anyways.

As far as escalations... it's a relief to see someone point the finger at the USA for this. They were not kidding when they said they would "Fight Russia until the last Ukrainian"(Lindsey Graham iirc). If they were sincere about helping them push Russia out, they wouldnt be slowly giving them the advanced weapons they are getting and got on it right away. They way they have been doing it is prolonging the war at a terrible cost of lives and especially on the suffering Ukrainians. They knew this.

If you read the Rand Corp papers regarding how to over extend Russia in Ukraine that they wrote a couple of years before the war, it pretty much follows a script of how it unfolded. Every bit of it... its was a recipe on crossing red lines to drag Russia into a crippling war for USA's long term benefit. It's really (frank)ing disgusting. This think tank has a half a century history of guiding America's forgien policy.

Ukraine was in talks with Russia very early in this war in Istanbul. USA got wind of it and Boris Johnson rushed there to assure them Russia was weak, had not enough arms to go more than a couple of months and NATO would give them everything they need. Russia had already pulled out of a large part of land they moved on during these talks which was part of the negotiation. Zelenski was going to concede a much smaller amount of land than Russia is now holding. USA/Britain pulled the carpet out from under the deal and here we are a year and a half later and Ukraine is in a much worse position and his in the midst of losing their 3rd army. Russia is outpacing the entire west on arms production and has help if they need more production.... USA (frank)ed Ukraine for their own agenda.... and why would anyone be surprised. They have been doing this endlessly since the end of WWII.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Sep 29 @ 9:47 PM ET
You think this is a competition? You think you’re winning something?

Can someone give this parrot the trophy he thinks he deserves? God knows he needs the affirmation.

- bloatedmosquito

A Norwegian Blue?
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Sep 29 @ 10:32 PM ET
A Norwegian Blue?
- Marwood


Is that a Rio reference?
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 29 @ 10:33 PM ET
A Norwegian Blue?
- Marwood


Is that a pot strain? If not, it should be…

This is a dead parrot
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Sep 29 @ 10:40 PM ET
Is that a pot strain? If not, it should be…

This is a dead parrot

- 1970vintage

You're right it would be a great name for a strong Indica, the kind of weed that leaves you pining for the fjords.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Sep 29 @ 11:01 PM ET
Is that a Rio reference?
- bloatedmosquito

Only if they pine for the fjords.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Sep 29 @ 11:01 PM ET
You're right it would be a great name for a strong Indica, the kind of weed that leaves you pining for the fjords.
- A_SteamingLombardi

bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Sep 29 @ 11:06 PM ET
Only if they pine for the fjords.
- Marwood


lol. Should have known. The problem having young kids is that you end up watching thousands of hours of the same cartoons over and over again. The jokes become ingrained. Got to shake out of it...

VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 2 @ 12:38 PM ET
Trying to get the AG killed? He's clearly trying to get his followers going again.

Donald Trump: “I don't think the people of this country are going to stand for it...This is a disgrace. And you ought to go after this attorney general.”

https://twitter.com/Accou...tatus/1708850019623670259

***Deal with it Makita!***
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Oct 2 @ 1:31 PM ET
Trying to get the AG killed? He's clearly trying to get his followers going again.

Donald Trump: “I don't think the people of this country are going to stand for it...This is a disgrace. And you ought to go after this attorney general.”

https://twitter.com/Accou...tatus/1708850019623670259

***Deal with it Makita!***

- VanHockeyGuy

Deal with what LH?
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Oct 2 @ 1:40 PM ET
Deal with what LH?
- Makita




Woah, unmasking alts, love it
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Oct 2 @ 2:38 PM ET
Deal with what LH?
- Makita

Trudeau.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Oct 2 @ 2:40 PM ET
Deal with what LH?
- Makita




VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 2 @ 3:00 PM ET
Deal with what LH?
- Makita


Twitter.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Oct 2 @ 5:26 PM ET
Twitter.
- VanHockeyGuy


There is no Twitter

Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Oct 4 @ 6:51 AM ET
I see the good people of Manitoba ousted the Conservatives for the NDP.
I swear that I keep hearing from the loud ones that the alt right movement was taking over.
Even the most recent election in Alberta was closer than many had thought.
2 of the 4 western provinces now NDP, Scott Moe in Saskatchewan just may be next.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 4 @ 11:20 AM ET
Would make for some epic television!



BREAKING: Donald Trump is willing to serve as House Speaker
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Oct 4 @ 11:38 AM ET
Would make for some epic television!



BREAKING: Donald Trump is willing to serve as House Speaker

- VanHockeyGuy


Don’t you already need to be a member of the house in order to run for the position?
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Oct 4 @ 11:58 AM ET
Don’t you already need to be a member of the house in order to run for the position?
- 1970vintage

Yup.

Clearly, having a Trump boner doesn't make you smarter.
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