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boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Sep 16 @ 9:12 PM ET
Or, he's just psychotic.
- bloatedmosquito


Azov loves their psychopaths... Notorious Neo Nazi Kent McLellan(son of Ken McLellan, famous front man of Brutal Attack... a white power rock band from the 90's) talks about when he volunteered for them before the Russian invasion, he was witness to them lynching a Jewish couple(while Canada's advisors were training them) along with many other crimes of that sort.

Hero's of Ukraine. Armed and trained by NATO. Used as a USA proxy to attack the ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine to drag Russia into a costly war while sacrificing Ukraine's people and sovereignty.

Go Democracy!



bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Sep 16 @ 9:40 PM ET
Azov loves their psychopaths... Notorious Neo Nazi Kent McLellan(son of Ken McLellan, famous front man of Brutal Attack... a white power rock band from the 90's) talks about when he volunteered for them before the Russian invasion, he was witness to them lynching a Jewish couple(while Canada's advisors were training them) along with many other crimes of that sort.

Hero's of Ukraine. Armed and trained by NATO. Used as a USA proxy to attack the ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine to drag Russia into a costly war while sacrificing Ukraine's people and sovereignty.

Go Democracy!




- boonerbuck


Cool story.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Sep 16 @ 9:50 PM ET
Cool story.
- bloatedmosquito




Funny thing about these democracy narratives that you and people like Don like to repeat about Ukraine. The people that are still supporting the legit government are the enemies of democracy. The one's overthrowing democracies and running a puppet are the heros. Talk about zero critical thinking when being served propaganda. The contradictions should be so obvious.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Sep 16 @ 10:27 PM ET
Funny thing about these democracy narratives that you and people like Don like to repeat about Ukraine. The people that are still supporting the legit government are the enemies of democracy. The one's overthrowing democracies and running a puppet are the heros. Talk about zero critical thinking when being served propaganda. The contradictions should be so obvious.

- boonerbuck



bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Sep 17 @ 1:07 PM ET
Did y'all see the story about thousands of pagers exploding throughout Lebanon? Holy shit, don't fuck with the Israelis'.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Sep 19 @ 2:20 AM ET
Did y'all see the story about thousands of pagers exploding throughout Lebanon? Holy shit, don't fuck with the Israelis'.
- bloatedmosquito


Pagers, then walkie-talkies. Pretty fucked. Wonder if Hezbollah did that to Israel, how quickly it would get labeled a terrorist attack.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Sep 19 @ 10:34 AM ET
Pagers, then walkie-talkies. Pretty fucked. Wonder if Hezbollah did that to Israel, how quickly it would get labeled a terrorist attack.
- NewYorkNuck


In most of the articles I've read and the interviews I've watched, it's being called a terror attack and "illegal" in the context of war. I think most are just in the wow phase at the moment, trying to understand how they pulled it off.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Sep 19 @ 1:33 PM ET
Interesting article in regards to the healthcare debate...

https://www.cnn.com/2024/...nwealth-report/index.html
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Sep 19 @ 2:54 PM ET
Interesting article in regards to the healthcare debate...

https://www.cnn.com/2024/...nwealth-report/index.html

- bloatedmosquito

Saw that this morning. Thank you for posting the link.

Fuck you, Traitor Lefty.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Sep 19 @ 4:24 PM ET
Saw that this morning. Thank you for posting the link.

Fuck you, Traitor Lefty.

- Marwood


He'd come back to Canada for free healthcare being the cheap prick he is.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Sep 22 @ 2:33 PM ET
Saw that this morning. Thank you for posting the link.

Fuck you, Traitor Lefty.

- Marwood



This is not new, news, the U.S. spends the most but that money goes to research, healthcare workers, healthcare equipment and healthcare facilities. There's a reason the world's greatest technological advances, one of the world's best cancer treatment centers, among many other diseases, the best research centers, are all in the United States of America. The United States is a leading hub for medical innovation for the rest of the world's population. Not to mention the world's greatest economy and the world's greatest artist's.

At the end of the day, in my experiences, I still get better care in the U.S. than I ever would in Canada on any level, for any thing. That doesn't mean you won't get care in Canada, just that your chances for good, timely, care, are greater in the U.S.

Over 92% of Americans have health insurance...
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Sep 22 @ 2:40 PM ET
He'd come back to Canada for free healthcare being the cheap prick he is.
- VanHockeyGuy

Nothing is free in this world, you may not admit it, but healthcare in Canada costs taxpayers (myself included) a gross amount of money every year in taxation and you still get untimely and inadequate service at the end of the day in all but immediate critical care.

The provincial and federal bureaucracy is the greatest major contributor to the lack of care in Canada. It's a microcosm of the greater problem that plagues socialist country's like Canada.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Sep 22 @ 8:36 PM ET
Nothing is free in this world, you may not admit it, but healthcare in Canada costs taxpayers (myself included) a gross amount of money every year in taxation and you still get untimely and inadequate service at the end of the day in all but immediate critical care.

The provincial and federal bureaucracy is the greatest major contributor to the lack of care in Canada. It's a microcosm of the greater problem that plagues socialist country's like Canada.

- Pacificgem


My main family doctor for the last 40+ years is in Mexico.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Sep 23 @ 9:45 AM ET


This is not new, news, the U.S. spends the most but that money goes to research, healthcare workers, healthcare equipment and healthcare facilities. There's a reason the world's greatest technological advances, one of the world's best cancer treatment centers, among many other diseases, the best research centers, are all in the United States of America. The United States is a leading hub for medical innovation for the rest of the world's population. Not to mention the world's greatest economy and the world's greatest artist's.

At the end of the day, in my experiences, I still get better care in the U.S. than I ever would in Canada on any level, for any thing. That doesn't mean you won't get care in Canada, just that your chances for good, timely, care, are greater in the U.S.

Over 92% of Americans have health insurance...

- Pacificgem


Yet all of that healthcare awesomeness does not translates into a healthy American population, who are ranked 66th on the Global Health Index, below healthcare powerhouses like Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan. Strange.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Sep 23 @ 10:44 AM ET
Nothing is free in this world, you may not admit it, but healthcare in Canada costs taxpayers (myself included) a gross amount of money every year in taxation and you still get untimely and inadequate service at the end of the day in all but immediate critical care.

The provincial and federal bureaucracy is the greatest major contributor to the lack of care in Canada. It's a microcosm of the greater problem that plagues socialist country's like Canada.

- Pacificgem

You need good healthcare in a country that has mass shootings everyday.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Sep 23 @ 11:27 AM ET
Yet all of that healthcare awesomeness does not translates into a healthy American population, who are ranked 66th on the Global Health Index, below healthcare powerhouses like Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan. Strange.
- bloatedmosquito

You can bring a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. Have you lived in the U.S. and seen the absolute crap these people eat? 40% of Americans are obese, that has nothing to do with their quality of healthcare, it has everything to do with their lifestyle's.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Sep 23 @ 11:35 AM ET
You need good healthcare in a country that has mass shootings everyday.
- Marwood

Mass shootings and healthcare have nothing to do with each other. It's sad that you have to continually reference extremely tragic events perpetrated by mentally unstable liberals, mostly youth who are struggling with their own identity because of todays extreme Liberalism, for your own personal arguments. Be better!!
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Sep 23 @ 11:36 AM ET
You can bring a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. Have you lived in the U.S. and seen the absolute crap these people eat? 40% of Americans are obese, that has nothing to do with their quality of healthcare, it has everything to do with their lifestyle's.
- Pacificgem


With a slightly higher percentage being stupid compounds the problem.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Sep 23 @ 11:52 AM ET


This is not new, news, the U.S. spends the most but that money goes to research, healthcare workers, healthcare equipment and healthcare facilities. There's a reason the world's greatest technological advances, one of the world's best cancer treatment centers, among many other diseases, the best research centers, are all in the United States of America. The United States is a leading hub for medical innovation for the rest of the world's population. Not to mention the world's greatest economy and the world's greatest artist's.

At the end of the day, in my experiences, I still get better care in the U.S. than I ever would in Canada on any level, for any thing. That doesn't mean you won't get care in Canada, just that your chances for good, timely, care, are greater in the U.S.

Over 92% of Americans have health insurance...

- Pacificgem


That's a bit misleading. The system isn't designed to be user-friendly, it is designed to make money. Co-pays, deductibles, different networks... people might have health insurance but that doesn't mean going to a doctor is easy or affordable. A lot of people avoid check ups until the problem becomes so large they are forced to go. That's not a healthy system.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Sep 23 @ 12:45 PM ET
That's a bit misleading. The system isn't designed to be user-friendly, it is designed to make money. Co-pays, deductibles, different networks... people might have health insurance but that doesn't mean going to a doctor is easy or affordable. A lot of people avoid check ups until the problem becomes so large they are forced to go. That's not a healthy system.
- NewYorkNuck

Absolutely...it wasn't meant to say that 312 million Americans have complete unabated access to healthcare, but that many people can walk into a healthcare facility and get some form of care. Much like 40 million Canadians can walk into a healthcare facility, if they can get in, and get some form of crappy care. Or not, it's a crap shoot right now in Canada.

Going to the doctor is so easy in the U.S., unlike Canada, just make an appointment, usually within 24 hours and go to the Doctor's office. I've lived in six different states in both large metro areas and smaller town areas, this is what I've experienced. Even if you don't have insurance just tell them you're cash pay and it's $60-$80 depending on the office you go into. I know, I've done it. When I go in with my insurance it's $30, because that's the insurance I chose. Here you get choices, in Canada you just pay at the source of your income and you live with terrible point of sale healthcare. If the only place you've ever experienced U.S. healthcare is in a large city like New York then your viewpoint is extremely narrow.

I got hit in the mouth with a puck a couple years ago and had to get several stitches, it was $3800 to my insurance company but I was getting stitches up within 20 minutes of arriving at emergency. There's ZERO chance that would happen in Canada right now....ZERO. The doctor's cost was $800, the rest was administrative cost and materials, I got the itemized bill.

Friends of ours in Victoria recently had their son-in-law go into the Vic General hospital because he completely tore his achilles tendon, he waited 14 hours in emergency before they told him to go home because the only one who could help him is now off shift....like what the actual f**k??? He went back to next day and ended up getting surgery a day later but that's just unacceptable.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Sep 23 @ 1:32 PM ET
Mass shootings and healthcare have nothing to do with each other. It's sad that you have to continually reference extremely tragic events perpetrated by mentally unstable liberals, mostly youth who are struggling with their own identity because of todays extreme Liberalism, for your own personal arguments. Be better!!
- Pacificgem

Thanks JD.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Sep 23 @ 4:46 PM ET
Canadian hospitals and #nursing homes paid $1.5 billion in the past fiscal year -- a six-fold increase since 2020 -- to #ForProfit staffing agencies, a figure which is "just the tip of the iceberg" 🙏@jmalmost
theglobeandmail.com/canada/article…
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Sep 23 @ 5:43 PM ET
Canadian hospitals and #nursing homes paid $1.5 billion in the past fiscal year -- a six-fold increase since 2020 -- to #ForProfit staffing agencies, a figure which is "just the tip of the iceberg" 🙏@jmalmost
theglobeandmail.com/canada/article…

- Pacificgem


Not only that, how about BC sending patients to the US for cancer treatment while fighting private healthcare here in BC. So hypocritical.

https://www.fraserinstitu...ary-bold-and-hypocritical

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Sep 23 @ 11:00 PM ET
Interesting article in regards to the healthcare debate...

https://www.cnn.com/2024/...nwealth-report/index.html

- bloatedmosquito

CNN lol

Do CBC next...

VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Sep 24 @ 10:54 AM ET
CNN lol

Do CBC next...


- LordHumungous


Propaganda has been around a long time, nothing new here.

All parties use it, just like Trumps BBF Elon.
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