sbroads24
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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I want to scream or maybe throw up. We're just going to look for a 2C for 20 years, aren't we - jcragcrumple
All the while it could've been Reinhart |
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Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Toronto Joined: 03.16.2011
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I want to scream or maybe throw up. We're just going to look for a 2C for 20 years, aren't we - jcragcrumple
Cozens has played Center all of his life and I do think he can play Center in the NHL when he gets used to the game.
It’s also hard to ignore that in the past two WJC he’s played on the wing and has looked very comfortable there.
Time will tell.
I’m certain though he’s going to be a fan favourite for a long time and is going to be a high end NHL forward even if it’s on the wing.
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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95% of the fans believe Risto is a defensive liability. I'll leave it there, as being in the lower 5% loses all credibility.
When did I say play Montour on his left?
Talk about embarassing, holy crap. - IonSabres
I mean, it's just a fact that he's bad defensively at this point.
He also doesn't move the needle on offense.
He's legitimately a mediocre to bad defensemen
In 2-3 years he will be on PTO's or signing the league mins like Erik Gudbranson or Cody Ceci |
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Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Toronto Joined: 03.16.2011
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I mean, it's just a fact that he's bad defensively at this point.
He also doesn't move the needle on offense.
He's legitimately a mediocre to bad defensemen
In 2-3 years he will be on PTO's or signing the league mins like Erik Gudbranson or Cody Ceci - sbroads24
I think the last paragraph is a little harsh.
Shelter him with o-zone starts and PP2 and he can get 30-35 points and be useful.
He’s just overpaid for his role and we misuse him.
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IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL Joined: 03.10.2013
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I wouldn’t be surprised if Cozens remains on the wing at the NHL level and becomes that new age power forward.
Would open up trading Reinhart for our long term 2C next offseason.
Then you have Thompson, Quinn, Peterka, Olofsson all vying for the other top 6 RW option (assuming Hall is resigned and Skinner remains as our top 6 LW) - Pegullaville
I'd rather have Cozens pan out at 2C, have Quinn be a Top 6 RW, and trade Reinhart for a 1RhD.
Olo, Routso, Tage, Peterka can all battle for the other Top 6 RW.
Trade friggin Risto and Montour
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Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Toronto Joined: 03.16.2011
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I'd rather have Cozens pan out at 2C, have Quinn be a Top 6 RW, and trade Reinhart for a 1RhD.
Olo, Routso, Tage, Peterka can all battle for the other Top 6 RW.
Trade friggin Risto and Montour - IonSabres
I’m not saying he won’t end up as a 2C, he very well could.
All I’m saying is that regardless he will be a top 6 high end forward.
He has all of the tools. He’s going to be great.
I had Cozens right ahead of Zegras in 2019 before the draft and although that might be a debate for the next 5-10 years I’m just happy we didn’t take Victor Olofsson (Cole Caufield) |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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Bigger schools have more money to spend on better coaching and higher profile games
If Allen went to a big school. He would’ve been way more nfl ready and most likely the first overall pick
Instead he was at Wyoming .... who the Frank plays there. (We know why he did) and had less coaching and less national media attention
So the QBs you named. Yes they came from no name schools. But the odds of them succeeding like they are is slim to none.
See Tyree Jackson. The Ex UB QB - Sabretooth9
Texas tech, Cal, Louisville & Purdue are ALL “big” schools... VERY far from being “no names”
The argument was flawed before,
and your defense of it is ridiculous now
If it was about the $$$ that programs have,
then why aren’t we seeing QBs coming from Texas, Michigan, Notre Dame, Penn state, Alabama, etc etc etc???
If it was about having a previously successful QB come through....
then tell me who the QB was at Cal after Rodgers?
Who came after Manning at Tennessee?
Who’s the QB at LSU right now?!
How about Oregon?
The only current schools that back up his claim & your defense is Clemson & Oklahoma, maybe Alabama
There’s a lot more that go against that....
A LOT |
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IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL Joined: 03.10.2013
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I’m not saying he won’t end up as a 2C, he very well could.
All I’m saying is that regardless he will be a top 6 high end forward.
He has all of the tools. He’s going to be great.
I had Cozens right ahead of Zegras in 2019 before the draft and although that might be a debate for the next 5-10 years I’m just happy we didn’t take Victor Olofsson (Cole Caufield) - Pegullaville
Lot of good C's in that draft...Dach, Cozens, Zegras, Turcotte and I forget the name if the Kid who tore his Achilles (edit, Krebs)...he is going to be a stud as well.
Some excellent talent coming into the league...let's hope Quinn turns out, otherwise we will lament Rossi for years. |
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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Is it me or is this season of Letterkenny one of the show's weakest? - buffalofan19
Eh I mean it's not bad, but the jokes are getting old
It is still funny though |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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It's been awhile, but from what I remember they started off strong and then faded once teams figured Pilut out...i.e. jump on him quick. I seem to remember Pilut being good for Risto, not necessarily the other way around...but w/e.
Getting up the ice faster is valid, but occurs after one actually defensively stops the play and begins the transition game...so, while I see that being a benefit in anyone's game, it doesn't help with the actual defending if you get my point there. I'd rather have a defensively strong player partnered with him. Let Miller play bigger minutes and Risto less...around 18 min a night would be great.
Better yet, trade Risto and Montour, use the $9m to acquire a stud (don't need to spend all of it, probably 50%) - IonSabres
Well obviously this is assuming that Risto isn’t traded
And we don’t have a “defensively strong” guy to partner with Dahlin.... do we?
Point is that Risto is gonna play a lot of minutes no matter what
So what’s the best way to make him more effective?
Playing him Dahlin seems like a reasonable idea to at least try out |
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Boss34
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: BUFFALO , NY Joined: 12.03.2015
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Dude... you pump up Girgs WAY more than Homie does Reinhart
And Reinhart is exponentially better than Girgs - jdfitz77
Dude - I'm kinda kidding around with girgs. Homie is in love with sam. Cute lover nickname and all.
I like try hard guys. Gurgs also fits the long term sabre that I've probably seen play 200 times. Loyalty still matters to me. I like that he chose to stay in buffalo. Seems like a nice guy off the ice, although I have never met him.
Girgs absolutely outplayed his last contract. He was an actual contributor to the scoring above and beyond any expectations.
5th in goal scoring, 2 less than 9 million $ skinner.
But girgs is maybe overpaid by a 1/2 million. Skinner possibly 3 or 4 million overpaid for the longest contract on the team. He was a ufa and buffatax b.s.
I think everyone is gonna really like him again, and act like he's suddenly changed his game or is miraculously just started playing good again. We need to start winning. He is a buffalo guy. Kyle Williams lite. (Really lite)
He had a good year, it's an interesting signing that seems like a contract with the kracken expansion questions ahead. Him or tage in my opinion end up in Seattle when it should be skinner after last season. |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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I think it’s just tiring to see a guy who’s obviously in over his head as a #1 D man continually put in that role year after year while his trade value plummets.
He was worth a 24 year old Taylor Hall when Murray was GM. He apparently was worth Ehlers last year. I don’t think he’s worth much now - sbroads24
We didn’t have a “#1” defenseman to play in that role though
U think any of the defensemen we’ve had over the years would’ve been any better?
Doubtful imo, VERY doubtful
Especially considering how crappy our team has been overall |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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I wouldn’t be surprised if Cozens remains on the wing at the NHL level and becomes that new age power forward.
Would open up trading Reinhart for our long term 2C next offseason.
Then you have Thompson, Quinn, Peterka, Olofsson all vying for the other top 6 RW option (assuming Hall is resigned and Skinner remains as our top 6 LW) - Pegullaville
Cozens will be given every opportunity to be the 2C here
Maybe not right away obviously, but he’ll definitely get his shot at it |
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Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Toronto Joined: 03.16.2011
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Lot of good C's in that draft...Dach, Cozens, Zegras, Turcotte and I forget the name if the Kid who tore his Achilles (edit, Krebs)...he is going to be a stud as well.
Some excellent talent coming into the league...let's hope Quinn turns out, otherwise we will lament Rossi for years. - IonSabres
My top 10 was
Hughes
Kakko
Turcotte
Byram
Dach
Cozens
Zegras
Newhook
Krebs
Boldy.
Turcotte looks like a whiff on my end there. Cozens and Zegras have looked a lot better.
Newhook and Krebs falling to 16 and 17 was a joke. Sakic was probably laughing when he made that pick when Newhook fell that far |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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95% of the fans believe Risto is a defensive liability. I'll leave it there, as being in the lower 5% loses all credibility.
When did I say play Montour on his left?
Talk about embarassing, holy crap. - IonSabres
Popular opinion & “credibility” aren’t necessarily synonymous
Bad point there |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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Dude - I'm kinda kidding around with girgs. Homie is in love with sam. Cute lover nickname and all.
I like try hard guys. Gurgs also fits the long term sabre that I've probably seen play 200 times. Loyalty still matters to me. I like that he chose to stay in buffalo. Seems like a nice guy off the ice, although I have never met him.
Girgs absolutely outplayed his last contract. He was an actual contributor to the scoring above and beyond any expectations.
5th in goal scoring, 2 less than 9 million $ skinner.
But girgs is maybe overpaid by a 1/2 million. Skinner possibly 3 or 4 million overpaid for the longest contract on the team. He was a ufa and buffatax b.s.
I think everyone is gonna really like him again, and act like he's suddenly changed his game or is miraculously just started playing good again. We need to start winning. He is a buffalo guy. Kyle Williams lite. (Really lite)
He had a good year, it's an interesting signing that seems like a contract with the kracken expansion questions ahead. Him or tage in my opinion end up in Seattle when it should be skinner after last season. - Boss34
I liked Girgs when u guys were all saying he should be waived to Rochester along with Okposo & Larsson
But u gotta expect to be called out when u like “try hard” 4th liners and call out other ppl for liking good top6 players
Come on now |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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[quote=Boss34]
got more right then you
but haters are gonna hate
hopefully hall will score more goals then the skunk this year and you get your autograph
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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Actually I disagree. They are doing better than I thought they would this year.
The defense is actually good.
Dwayne Haskins was a joke of a draft pick. Which Ron Rivera obviously didn’t draft
Rivera is turning that team around. I guess that’s my point - Sabretooth9
they are missing a josh allen
if they get another haskins, all the good is for nothing |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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they are missing a josh allen
if they get another haskins, all the good is for nothing - homiedclown
I think Rivera is the kinda guy that can actually build that team up though
And Snyder has obviously given over control to him
Another factor in Rivera’s favor is that this division blows & is totally up for grabs
It’s not quite the climb like whoever takes over the Jets will have (for example) |
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Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Toronto Joined: 03.16.2011
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they are missing a josh allen
if they get another haskins, all the good is for nothing - homiedclown
Stafford would get the job done there |
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Boss34
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: BUFFALO , NY Joined: 12.03.2015
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[quote=homiedclown]
Is this all about your sister misunderstanding jim Kelly , when he was asking her for directions? |
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IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL Joined: 03.10.2013
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Well obviously this is assuming that Risto isn’t traded
And we don’t have a “defensively strong” guy to partner with Dahlin.... do we?
Point is that Risto is gonna play a lot of minutes no matter what
So what’s the best way to make him more effective?
Playing him Dahlin seems like a reasonable idea to at least try out - jdfitz77
It's been tried by every coach, so sure why not.
Maybe the 4th guy will perform magic. Not.
Miller actually played the best with him later in the season.
Risto isn't a 1st pairing guy, playing him as such has been proven to he detrimental to the team.
This is the season to trade him out. With Dahlin and Joker coming due, they simply can't afford to carry his defensive lapses around anymore and stop wedging him into the lineup where he doesn't fit. |
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IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL Joined: 03.10.2013
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Popular opinion & “credibility” aren’t necessarily synonymous
Bad point there - jdfitz77
Sometimes yes, sometimes no.
It is in this case though, and it is a great point made actually. |
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10 out of 10 times yes. - 3rd GM's the charm
Fun fact, Gus had more goals last season (12) than Perry had in the previous two yeas combined (11)
😉
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jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT Joined: 04.04.2016
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I liked Girgs when u guys were all saying he should be waived to Rochester along with Okposo & Larsson
But u gotta expect to be called out when u like “try hard” 4th liners and call out other ppl for liking good top6 players
Come on now - jdfitz77
That should still happen to Okposo |
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