This.
- Powerslave

And the butthurt about Allen over Rosen in 18. Delicious.

It was times like that, that I've learned to give the kid a (frank)ing chance.

I wonder what the Allen vs Rosen "NFL Star Potential" chart looked like.

Yup I have moved forward ...... and I don’t worry about the extra 700K girgs is making
- Sabretooth9

Especially now with his cap hit going on LTIR...?

If you needed proof the NHL really is changing, here it is: Per league release -- Discover, Honda, MassMutual and Scotiabank will be the names of the Divisions "for 2020-21 NHL Season"

https://twitter.com/Fried.../1346478546143694851?s=19
- kingcong39

Gross

If its simply to get through this season then whatever I guess

I never want to see the NHL go all europe on us. Its bad enough seeing ads digitally placed on the glass

And the butthurt about Allen over Rosen in 18. Delicious.

It was times like that, that I've learned to give the kid a (frank)ing chance.

I wonder what the Allen vs Rosen "NFL Star Potential" chart looked like.
- TheSabresTaco

Oh god the Allen comparison.

Gross

If its simply to get through this season then whatever I guess

I never want to see the NHL go all europe on us. Its bad enough seeing ads digitally placed on the glass
- ieetbred

They lost a ton of money last year and are going to lose a ton this year as well

I don't think many people realize how bad the league is in financially outside of like 6 teams

It means little in the end. I can rattle off 20 players who crushed the world juniors, and half of them are nobodies.

I can name 20 more players who were pedestrian, and half of them are stars.

It's fair to put stock into the juniors. I'm as excited as anyone that JJ and Dylan killed it. I'm also saying, it doesn't mean Richard until they do it in the NHL.

Cody Hodgson and Jordan Eberle. Two of the game's elite of the elite.
- TheSabresTaco

“The world juniors don’t matter, actual numbers don’t matter, the only thing that matters is that I’m a homer and this one time the football team I like hit a home run on a guy”

If you needed proof the NHL really is changing, here it is: Per league release -- Discover, Honda, MassMutual and Scotiabank will be the names of the Divisions "for 2020-21 NHL Season"

https://twitter.com/Fried.../1346478546143694851?s=19
- kingcong39

Let me guess: Scotiabank is going to be the Central Division.





(Yes, I know it will be the Canadian Division).

Oh god the Allen comparison.
- sbroads24

Not actual development comparison.

It's the 'give him a (frank)ing chance' comparison. And it's absolutely reasonable.

Let me guess: Scotiabank is going to be the Central Division.





(Yes, I know it will be the Canadian Division).
- buffalofan19

Times are a-changin'.

If I had to guess:

MassMutual - Eastern Division (Boston)
Honda - Western Division (Anaheim)
Scotiabank - Canadian Division (Canada)
Discover - Central Division (process of elimination - but I guess their headquarters are in suburban Chicago).

“The world juniors don’t matter, actual numbers don’t matter, the only thing that matters is that I’m a homer and this one time the football team I like hit a home run on a guy”
- sbroads24

Take it easy Fitz. There's a lot of nonsense here, so I'm not going to hash through it.

I made my statements on the juniors and I stand by them. Believing in a kid doesn't make me a (frank)ing homer. Especially when I never inferred that the guy they could have drafted will somehow be bad.

Josh Allen and Josh Rosen is a case study to prove that we don't know (frank)ing Richard, and that bemoaning a draft pick is a complete and utter waste of time.

Take it easy Fitz. There's a lot of nonsense here, so I'm not going to hash through it.

I made my statements on the juniors and I stand by them. Believing in a kid doesn't make me a (frank)ing homer. Especially when I never inferred that the guy they could have drafted will somehow be bad.

Josh Allen and Josh Rosen is a case study to prove that we don't know (frank)ing Richard, and that bemoaning a draft pick is a complete and utter waste of time.
- TheSabresTaco

Alright, that’s fair.

Dylan Cozens being top 5 all time in scoring for Canada means nothing

JJ Peterka looking excellent means nothing

Jack Quinn having 5 (frank)ing shots on goal in 6 games means nothing

As long as we’re consistent

They lost a ton of money last year and are going to lose a ton this year as well

I don't think many people realize how bad the league is in financially outside of like 6 teams
- Stripes77

I get it fully. I hope its temporary

I also see how slippery a slope it could be when fans are back but hesitant to go or unable to afford it. If they are willing to sell the names of the divisions of the sport, I dont see anything else being off the table

Fast forward a few years and we could be europe. Its ugly and distracting. Its one of the few purities I think major sports in america has tried to protect by keeping advertising off jerseys and for the most part the field/rink/court

Take it easy Fitz. There's a lot of nonsense here, so I'm not going to hash through it.

I made my statements on the juniors and I stand by them. Believing in a kid doesn't make me a (frank)ing homer. Especially when I never inferred that the guy they could have drafted will somehow be bad.

Josh Allen and Josh Rosen is a case study to prove that we don't know (frank)ing Richard, and that bemoaning a draft pick is a complete and utter waste of time.
- TheSabresTaco

As much as we all love the "(frank) you" story that the Josh Allen has become, I still believe he will turn out to be the exception rather than the rule.

I get it fully. I hope its temporary

I also see how slippery a slope it could be when fans are back but hesitant to go or unable to afford it. If they are willing to sell the names of the divisions of the sport, I dont see anything else being off the table

Fast forward a few years and we could be europe. Its ugly and distracting. Its one of the few purities I think major sports in america has tried to protect by keeping advertising off jerseys and for the most part the field/rink/court
- ieetbred

I don't think they will ever go full soccer and have sponsors on jerseys

I get it fully. I hope its temporary

I also see how slippery a slope it could be when fans are back but hesitant to go or unable to afford it. If they are willing to sell the names of the divisions of the sport, I dont see anything else being off the table

Fast forward a few years and we could be europe. Its ugly and distracting. Its one of the few purities I think major sports in america has tried to protect by keeping advertising off jerseys and for the most part the field/rink/court
- ieetbred

That's my thing about ads. If they don't look intrusive, then I don't mind them. Ads on the boards in hockey rinks are barely noticeable, or at least we are just used to them. The Chipotle ads on Team USA's helmets and shoulder patches are a little worse, but I find myself noticing for the first few minutes and then forget about them. If ads are similar to soccer uniforms, where they simply just look part of the jersey, then the NHL will be fine. If it goes all Euro hockey league, where they try to patch on as many ads as possibly, regardless of color scheme, it will be a mess.

Alright, that’s fair.

Dylan Cozens being top 5 all time in scoring for Canada means nothing

JJ Peterka looking excellent means nothing

Jack Quinn having 5 (frank)ing shots on goal in 6 games means nothing

As long as we’re consistent
- sbroads24

I believe in consistency and not being hypocritical, we see it every day here. Except I didn't say they don't mean anything. Being excellent in the juniors means you were excellent in the juniors and are able to dominate your peers. What it also means is that it that it means "little", the word I specifically used, when projecting your NHL career. Players who are great in the juniors certainly have a higher percentage chance to be at least good NHL players. But there's also players who kill it and suck, and players who suck and then kill it. So saying Casey Mittelstadt will be great, or Jack Quinn will suck, because of one tournament, is an exceptionally flawed line of thinking.

I don't think they will ever go full soccer and have sponsors on jerseys
- Stripes77

At the same time, though, soccer doesn't look as bad as, say, the European hockey leagues. At least they make some effort in making the ad look like it's part of the uniform rather than just an ugly add-on.

Times are a-changin'.
- TheSabresTaco

I'm sorry I don't speak Spanish.

As much as we all love the "(frank) you" story that the Josh Allen has become, I still believe he will turn out to be the exception rather than the rule.
- buffalofan19

I couldn't agree more. That's still not the point I'm trying to make. It's us, the fans, saying believing, knowing, Rosen was the right pick, and not letting either develop before casting each of them.

I'm sorry I don't speak Spanish.
- 3rd GM's the charm

Read a book imo

That's my thing about ads. If they don't look intrusive, then I don't mind them. Ads on the boards in hockey rinks are barely noticeable, or at least we are just used to them. The Chipotle ads on Team USA's helmets and shoulder patches are a little worse, but I find myself noticing for the first few minutes and then forget about them. If ads are similar to soccer uniforms, where they simply just look part of the jersey, then the NHL will be fine. If it goes all Euro hockey league, where they try to patch on as many ads as possibly, regardless of color scheme, it will be a mess.
- buffalofan19

Getting used to them plus time could equal euro hockey. If their reluctance to put ads on jerseys is a tell, I doubt it would ever be sloppy if it came to it but

I never want to see a single ad on a hockey jersey. Ever

I believe in consistency and not being hypocritical, we see it every day here. Except I didn't say they don't mean anything. Being excellent in the juniors means you were excellent in the juniors and are able to dominate your peers. What it also means is that it that it means "little", the word I specifically used, when projecting your NHL career. Players who are great in the juniors certainly have a higher percentage chance to be at least good NHL players. But there's also players who kill it and suck, and players who suck and then kill it. So saying Casey Mittelstadt will be great, or Jack Quinn will suck, because of one tournament, is an exceptionally flawed line of thinking.
- TheSabresTaco

Right, except no one said this, so if this is your overall point I don't know who you're responding to.

As of now, based on who was on the board, Quinn was a reach over Lundell or Rossi, or even Perfetti.

With the exception of Rossi being on a high school team and by himself and being unfair to judge, both Lundell and Perfetti have been better, Lundell by a a lot.

And Quinn isn't really that young. He's 19 years old.

It's dissapointing that he very well could go an entire 7 game tournament without a single goal on an opposing goalie when we drafted him to be a goal scorer.

If you don't see any red flags yet, more power to you

That's my thing about ads. If they don't look intrusive, then I don't mind them. Ads on the boards in hockey rinks are barely noticeable, or at least we are just used to them. The Chipotle ads on Team USA's helmets and shoulder patches are a little worse, but I find myself noticing for the first few minutes and then forget about them. If ads are similar to soccer uniforms, where they simply just look part of the jersey, then the NHL will be fine. If it goes all Euro hockey league, where they try to patch on as many ads as possibly, regardless of color scheme, it will be a mess.
- buffalofan19

Gross.

Especially now with his cap hit going on LTIR...?
- kingcong39

It'll just go to IR. No reason to utilize LTIR.