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Forums :: Blog World :: Michael Pachla: Blue and Gold scrimmage, part II tonight. Jeff Skinner w/Curtis Lazar
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Camel
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Sudbury, ON
Joined: 04.25.2009

Jan 10 @ 6:08 PM ET
Skinner does a thing called ... scores goals. He can score 20+ goals a year in his sleep. He even was on pace for that last year.
- Sabretooth9


Yes he can score but he is streaky. The problem I see with him is if he’s not scoring he’s not doing much else to make up for it. Maybe Ralph is trying to get his game to a level where he can score and isn’t a defensive liability.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jan 10 @ 6:08 PM ET
I won’t argue that.

That’s why Florida brought in Duclair

That’s why the Blues brought in Hoffman.

Neither of those guys got 8 years $72M.

- Pegullaville



We have plowed this earth more times than necessary.
Your issue, and 99% of others us his CONTRACT.

Ralph is heading up the 1% Club. Don't be a Ralph.
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Jan 10 @ 6:09 PM ET
Has there even been 1 since Vanek or ROR?
- 3rd GM's the charm

Aho
3rd GM's the charm
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Look, it's a situation where thats a great question, OH
Joined: 07.01.2020

Jan 10 @ 6:10 PM ET
Trubisky is awful
3rd GM's the charm
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Look, it's a situation where thats a great question, OH
Joined: 07.01.2020

Jan 10 @ 6:11 PM ET
Yes he can score but he is streaky.
- Camel

You can just about say this about any goal-scorer ever. Even Ovechkin is streaky and he might be the best goal-scorer ever.
3rd GM's the charm
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Look, it's a situation where thats a great question, OH
Joined: 07.01.2020

Jan 10 @ 6:12 PM ET
Aho
- TheHank

So there's been exactly 3 in the past 15 years? Yeah man, gotta watch out for those
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jan 10 @ 6:12 PM ET
That's a really solid post 👊

Where/ who do you see cozens with game 1 first nhl shift?

- Boss34


Nobody because Cozens won't be playing in game one due to Ralph preferring Sheahan on the Lazar and Skinner line...?
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jan 10 @ 6:13 PM ET
I was complaining about the contract Skinner was going to get 3 months before he even signed it
- Pegullaville


And that changes now how exactly?
3rd GM's the charm
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Look, it's a situation where thats a great question, OH
Joined: 07.01.2020

Jan 10 @ 6:14 PM ET
And that changes now how exactly?
- kingcong39

Don't you know? It means he was right about everything before it happened.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jan 10 @ 6:15 PM ET
We have plowed this earth more times than necessary.
Your issue, and 99% of others us his CONTRACT.

Ralph is heading up the 1% Club. Don't be a Ralph.

- IonSabres


I see the logic in Kreuger trying to spread out the scoring. I do not mind having a third line of

Skinner-Eakin/Lazar-Cozens

Now if Olofsson-Staal-Reinhart are not producing then obviously you have to bump Skinner up.

In a perfect world we would have moved one of our 37 RHD for another Center to give us more depth down the middle.

Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 10 @ 6:15 PM ET
I hope Olofsson improves. He was terrible at 5 on 5 with our superstar

Scored about 1/5 that Skinner did 5 on 5 with Eichel

Skinner is a ton better though. Not Olofsson’s fault

- sbroads24



When making comparisons, do you ever take out the 25 goals in the 1st 40 games?

I'm not sure if it's fair to take out a 1/2 season?
Not trying to flacco this discussion, but the recent stats probably show the real skimmer.
3rd GM's the charm
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Look, it's a situation where thats a great question, OH
Joined: 07.01.2020

Jan 10 @ 6:17 PM ET
One thing I hate about the NHL and love about the NFL is that the NFL is a "what have you done for me lately?" league and the NHL is a "Good 'ol boys" club. A player can have an NHL career a good 5-7 years after he was worth anything because he's a "good locker-room guy" or a "great community guy" even though he's a detriment to his team on the ice. The NFL it's either put up or sell used cars.

It's maddening.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 10 @ 6:17 PM ET
When making comparisons, do you ever take out the 25 goals in the 1st 40 games?

I'm not sure if it's fair to take out a 1/2 season?
Not trying to flacco this discussion, but the recent stats probably show the real skimmer.

- Boss34

Sure, now let’s take out those 10-12 PP goals Olofsson started the year off with then
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 10 @ 6:18 PM ET
Bossman for the win.
EXACTLY right!

- IonSabres


😀

Happy buffalo Bill's winning Monday to you uncle ion 🙂

* well sunday this week and hopefully monday too
3rd GM's the charm
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Look, it's a situation where thats a great question, OH
Joined: 07.01.2020

Jan 10 @ 6:19 PM ET
I see the logic in Kreuger trying to spread out the scoring. I do not mind having a third line of

Skinner-Eakin/Lazar-Cozens


Now if Olofsson-Staal-Reinhart are not producing then obviously you have to bump Skinner up.

In a perfect world we would have moved one of our 37 RHD for another Center to give us more depth down the middle.

- Pegullaville

The problem is that there is no logic here because we don't have enough people who can score in our bottom-6. We have a clear cut 6 guys who should be in our top-6, a lot of young guys who should be getting a chance on the 3rd line and about 16 vets who have no business playing in the NHL yet will continue to get middle-6 minutes in the name of "spreading the scoring out" or as I like to call it "burying your most proven goal scorer in the bottom 6".
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jan 10 @ 6:23 PM ET
Because so many teams take that tactic year over year.

It's interesting the players you like and don't like when the players you like are eerily similar but worse than the players you do like, but hey, we all have player biases and our own favorites.

- kingcong39


It's amazing that I am right and most people on here are wrong but so be it.

Ruusto will be in Roschester I said so, most with their glowing eyes said he will start off with the Sabres

I said I liked Thompsons skills many on here thought he was crap, Thompson is on the 1st line

I said the goalie Johansson was nowhere near as good as Miller as someone from Florida said and who said should be one of goalies, he will be in Rochester because he is not that good.

I said Skinner did not look that good early last year and that set off a sh*t show on here and guess what? He had a 14 goal year.

I said Reinhart was a 2nd line player who would top off at the low 60 pts, well he reached the low 60's he is now a 2nd line player and he always was a 2nd line player if the Sabres had better wingers.

The insider said at Free Agency that the Sabres would sign scrubs along with many others and I said be patient they aren't going into next year with the same roster and what do they do? Sign Hall among others.

I will be right that Toby Reider will be half decent

It is tough being right all the time but someone has to be
3rd GM's the charm
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Look, it's a situation where thats a great question, OH
Joined: 07.01.2020

Jan 10 @ 6:23 PM ET
When making comparisons, do you ever take out the 25 goals in the 1st 40 games?

I'm not sure if it's fair to take out a 1/2 season?
Not trying to flacco this discussion, but the recent stats probably show the real skimmer.

- Boss34

By this logic Wayne Gretzky was a poope goal-scorer because the first half of his career he had 640 goals against midget goalies in pee-wee pads and the second half of his career he had 254 goals against goalies who caught up to the game finally and got larger pads.

Either he scored 894 or he didn't.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 10 @ 6:24 PM ET
He sucks though.
- IonSabres



That's an impressive stat.

Wasn't that all without " a true superstar " center.

Staal has been good , but I thought the skinner thing was , " he was great 5 x 5 " before eichel. Without a star setup guy?
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 10 @ 6:25 PM ET
I was complaining about the contract Skinner was going to get 3 months before he even signed it
- Pegullaville


Pretty much the only thing you've been right about in the past few years. 😉
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jan 10 @ 6:25 PM ET
Aho
- TheHank

I thought Weber signed one too
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Jan 10 @ 6:26 PM ET
It's amazing that I am right and most people on here are wrong but so be it.

Ruusto will be in Roschester I said so, most with their glowing eyes said he will start off with the Sabres

I said I liked Thompsons skills many on here thought he was crap, Thompson is on the 1st line

I said the goalie Johansson was nowhere near as good as Miller as someone from Florida said and who said should be one of goalies, he will be in Rochester because he is not that good.

I said Skinner did not look that good early last year and that set off a sh*t show on here and guess what? He had a 14 goal year.

I said Reinhart was a 2nd line player who would top off at the low 60 pts, well he reached the low 60's he is now a 2nd line player and he always was a 2nd line player if the Sabres had better wingers.

The insider said at Free Agency that the Sabres would sign scrubs along with many others and I said be patient they aren't going into next year with the same roster and what do they do? Sign Hall among others.

I will be right that Toby Reider will be half decent

It is tough being right all the time but someone has to be

- GilPerreault11

Just go ahead and have your bottom two ribs removed then.
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Jan 10 @ 6:29 PM ET
I thought Weber signed one too
- IndianaSabresFan

Maybe. It’s rare enough that it’s just a horrible point to make when trying to make someone look bad.
3rd GM's the charm
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Look, it's a situation where thats a great question, OH
Joined: 07.01.2020

Jan 10 @ 6:30 PM ET
Chicago are playing like they have no interest in winning this game whatsoever.

Drew Brees is cooked. They will not get past round 2.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jan 10 @ 6:30 PM ET
Jeff Skinner might be the Sammy Watkins of the Sabres, except less talented. Not buying into the system, not a team player so the Bills dealt him.

That was when the Bills were trying to get any talent they could but never built a team.

When McBean came they wanted to build a team that trusted the process.

Jeff Watkins

Sammy Skinner

- GilPerreault11


Wait who’s less talented? Sammy Watkins hasn’t come close to anything spectacular at any of his stops. He’s like 4th/5th option right now with the most likely the best QB in football right now. Skinner has accomplished way more in their respective sports.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 10 @ 6:33 PM ET
It's amazing that I am right and most people on here are wrong but so be it.

Ruusto will be in Roschester I said so, most with their glowing eyes said he will start off with the Sabres

I said I liked Thompsons skills many on here thought he was crap, Thompson is on the 1st line

I said the goalie Johansson was nowhere near as good as Miller as someone from Florida said and who said should be one of goalies, he will be in Rochester because he is not that good.

I said Skinner did not look that good early last year and that set off a sh*t show on here and guess what? He had a 14 goal year.

I said Reinhart was a 2nd line player who would top off at the low 60 pts, well he reached the low 60's he is now a 2nd line player and he always was a 2nd line player if the Sabres had better wingers.

The insider said at Free Agency that the Sabres would sign scrubs along with many others and I said be patient they aren't going into next year with the same roster and what do they do? Sign Hall among others.

I will be right that Toby Reider will be half decent

It is tough being right all the time but someone has to be

- GilPerreault11

Not sure about most of this - but gotta give you credit where it’s due

We all were talking about Jonas freaking Johansson being better than Ryan Miller.

All of us but you. You nailed that call. I was shocked when he didn’t come out better than one of the all time win leaders in NHL history
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