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Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 11 @ 12:58 PM ET
2 in the endzone 🛎🛎🛎🛎🛎🛎🛎🛎🛎🛎🛎🛎🛎🛎🛎🔜

Go Bill's!!!!
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 11 @ 1:00 PM ET
A lot of interesting names on waivers today.

A lot of players that would be upgrades in the bottom 6

- Pegullaville


I can't find a good link to an updating waiver wire. What are you using?
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jan 11 @ 1:04 PM ET
I can't find a good link to an updating waiver wire. What are you using?
- jcragcrumple

Gerbe is available......
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jan 11 @ 1:08 PM ET
I can't find a good link to an updating waiver wire. What are you using?
- jcragcrumple


Honestly just looking at tweets from Friedman and others.

I’m sure Cap Friendly will have a full list up about who cleared and who didn’t tomorrow at 12
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 11 @ 1:08 PM ET
Olofsson had 13 primary points 5 on 5 - playing with Eichel a majority of the year

Skinner had 17 primary points this season is his awful, horrible, career worst shameful season.

GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jan 11 @ 1:09 PM ET
Olofsson scored at an alarmingly low rate for Eichel’s line mate

And before someone compares that to Reinhart 4 years ago.....Eichel was in his 2nd season and not a superstar yet.

I’m still so confused as to what the point even is?

Keep all the bad players like Risto because they “buy in”?

- sbroads24


Which bad players are we talking? And you way overvalue Skinner, undervalue VO and also undervalue Risto as well. You WAY overvalued Larsson and I'm going to wait for his Selke year or even nomination. There are some people who get things right and others not so much, but keep at it, you'll get there.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jan 11 @ 1:11 PM ET
Which bad players are we talking? And you way overvalue Skinner, undervalue VO and also undervalue Risto as well. You WAY overvalued Larsson and I'm going to wait for his Selke year or even nomination. There are some people who get things right and others not so much, but keep at it, you'll get there.
- GilPerreault11



Most of the game is played 5 on 5

take away the power play points and where is VO? Same as Skinner except playing with Eichel instead of two boat anchors
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jan 11 @ 1:13 PM ET
It could be

But Watkins was almost always hurt

- Stripes77

Just trying to figure it out
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 11 @ 1:14 PM ET
fun
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 11 @ 1:17 PM ET
fun
- TheSabresTaco


I'm finalizing my draft board and I can't decide if I should take a chance and wait to pick up Erod in the 7th or should I go ahead and take him in the 3rd or 4th before anyone else can?

I know you're the competition so try to not to obfuscate your own natural interests here
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jan 11 @ 1:20 PM ET
Most of the game is played 5 on 5

take away the power play points and where is VO? Same as Skinner except playing with Eichel instead of two boat anchors

- Stripes77

i blame sobotka for getting hurt
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jan 11 @ 1:25 PM ET
Most of the game is played 5 on 5

take away the power play points and where is VO? Same as Skinner except playing with Eichel instead of two boat anchors

- Stripes77



I know you are bitter that he took the anointed ones spot on the first line last year but he had no say in that and Jack had his best year. Whether that was because he was able to handle the puck more and Skinner didn't hog it, he was able to find a shooter, VO can pass himself, Jack didn't tremble about D coverage because Skinner is a sieve in that regard; Jack was psychologically happier because VO was on his line, I don't know but the anointed one stumbled BIG TIME as he has been know to do.

VO was on his way to getting close to the second Princes high point total in his career, some refer to him as SAM and have no problem calling him a first line player. Whether VO is a first line or 2nd line whatever he is another Sabres weapon that seems to be able to buy into the system, philosophy of the coach, boss and be a team player and help them win. 7th round picks most often often turn into nothing so I think we should all be happy we hit one out of the park there.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 11 @ 1:25 PM ET
I'm finalizing my draft board and I can't decide if I should take a chance and wait to pick up Erod in the 7th or should I go ahead and take him in the 3rd or 4th before anyone else can?

I know you're the competition so try to not to obfuscate your own natural interests here

- jcragcrumple


I won't be competing for Erod, I don't think I'd go for him until the 8th round, so I assume he'll be scooped up by then. I'd assume Boss will be picking him in the 2nd round.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 11 @ 1:28 PM ET
Which bad players are we talking? And you way overvalue Skinner, undervalue VO and also undervalue Risto as well. You WAY overvalued Larsson and I'm going to wait for his Selke year or even nomination. There are some people who get things right and others not so much, but keep at it, you'll get there.
- GilPerreault11

How exactly am I undervaluing VO?

What have I said other than what is undeniable facts-

He didn’t produce 5 on 5 ✅

He stopped lighting it up on the PP when teams took his shot away âś…

He was bad defensively âś…

He’s a middle six winger who gets to ride shotgun to a superstar center. That’s it
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 11 @ 1:28 PM ET
I won't be competing for Erod, I don't think I'd go for him until the 8th round, so I assume he'll be scooped up by then. I'd assume Boss will be picking him in the 2nd round.
- TheSabresTaco


Hm. 4d chess. Perhaps I should draft Pominville in the hopes of a comeback and then offer him via trade for Erod. Lots to consider here
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jan 11 @ 1:29 PM ET
I won't be competing for Erod, I don't think I'd go for him until the 8th round, so I assume he'll be scooped up by then. I'd assume Boss will be picking him in the 2nd round.
- TheSabresTaco


At least Girgensons got hurt before I picked him in the first round.

That would have been a game changer for my team
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 11 @ 1:29 PM ET
I know you are bitter that he took the anointed ones spot on the first line last year but he had no say in that and Jack had his best year. Whether that was because he was able to handle the puck more and Skinner didn't hog it, he was able to find a shooter, VO can pass himself, Jack didn't tremble about D coverage because Skinner is a sieve in that regard; Jack was psychologically happier because VO was on his line, I don't know but the anointed one stumbled BIG TIME as he has been know to do.

VO was on his way to getting close to the second Princes high point total in his career, some refer to him as SAM and have no problem calling him a first line player. Whether VO is a first line or 2nd line whatever he is another Sabres weapon that seems to be able to buy into the system, philosophy of the coach, boss and be a team player and help them win. 7th round picks most often often turn into nothing so I think we should all be happy we hit one out of the park there.

- GilPerreault11

Some of us use facts and numbers to form an opinion

Others make up sincerely weird narratives they have absolutely no way of knowing

ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jan 11 @ 1:31 PM ET
How exactly am I undervaluing VO?

What have I said other than what is undeniable facts-

He didn’t produce 5 on 5 ✅

He stopped lighting it up on the PP when teams took his shot away âś…

He was bad defensively âś…

He’s a middle six winger who gets to ride shotgun to a superstar center. That’s it

- sbroads24


Id Trade VO.

Hes going to wear out his welcome very quick, IMO.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 11 @ 1:33 PM ET
Id Trade VO.

Hes going to wear out his welcome very quick, IMO.

- ImThatGuy

I actually don’t mind him at all.

I don’t even care that he’s on line 1, spread the scoring

Eichel will drive the line regardless

They’re undeniably better with Skinner there though
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jan 11 @ 1:34 PM ET
I actually don’t mind him at all.

I don’t even care that he’s on line 1, spread the scoring

Eichel will drive the line regardless

They’re undeniably better with Skinner there though

- sbroads24



That's the thing, I don't care that he is playing with Eichel either

What I do care about is Skinner playing with borderline NHLers
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jan 11 @ 1:34 PM ET
How exactly am I undervaluing VO?

What have I said other than what is undeniable facts-

He didn’t produce 5 on 5 ✅

He stopped lighting it up on the PP when teams took his shot away âś…

He was bad defensively âś…

He’s a middle six winger who gets to ride shotgun to a superstar center. That’s it

- sbroads24


54 games 42 pts and 20 goals

you are the numbers guy project that to 82 games. I'm going to bet that you won't because it will not fit your narrative.

25 goals in a rookie year is a good bet though and not all on the PP. Psst, by the way, special teams does matter
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jan 11 @ 1:37 PM ET
Id Trade VO.

Hes going to wear out his welcome very quick, IMO.

- ImThatGuy


If I could I would trade Skinner, he has divided us when we need to unify
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jan 11 @ 1:37 PM ET
If I could I would trade Skinner, he has divided us when we need to unify
- GilPerreault11



Nope, there's like 3 or 4 of you versus the rest of us
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jan 11 @ 1:38 PM ET
That's the thing, I don't care that he is playing with Eichel either

What I do care about is Skinner playing with borderline NHLers

- Stripes77


I care about Skinner listening to his boss like the rest of us do no matter how much we make.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jan 11 @ 1:38 PM ET
Interesting article in The Athletic about Chuck Richarderson last Friday.

https://theathletic.com/2...lls-sabres-buffalo-radio/

I was only a kid during his hey-day, but I remember him making for some entertaining radio, whether people liked him or not.
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