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3rd GM's the charm
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Look, it's a situation where thats a great question, OH
Joined: 07.01.2020

Jan 10 @ 2:44 PM ET
Columbus are not trading PLD, especially not to Buffalo.

Buffalo can't afford to trade what it would cost, either.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jan 10 @ 2:45 PM ET
Edmonton didn't have a full season with Ralph and a new GM who wanted his own but sure, Carolina had a long look at Skinner and knew him well. If he was so elite why did they toss him away for nothing?
- GilPerreault11



Because these so called “strong willed” coaches Ralph and Rob try to square peg round hole players.

Carolina sure has been a model franchise to try to emulate.
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jan 10 @ 2:46 PM ET
We are comparing Skinner to a 700 grand player Sheahan now. Awesome logic. Maybe why Skinner is placed right on the 4th line then?
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jan 10 @ 2:47 PM ET
Very true. The big BUT is, if he is not putting in the work like others are to make this team better, and he won’t buy into the culture and system trying to be created, then isn’t he part of the problem? $9mil problem unfortunately but part of the problem still?
One of my biggest criticisms of this team over the past 5 years is the complete lack of effort or consistent effort by almost all players not named Jack or ROR (primary driver to his departure IMo)

- lulags


Depends on what you view "the problem" to be.
I'll take the 40G, 0+/-, 52.4% CF player myself.

I'd say wasting $7m and 25 goals is THE Problem.
3rd GM's the charm
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Look, it's a situation where thats a great question, OH
Joined: 07.01.2020

Jan 10 @ 2:48 PM ET
We are comparing Skinner to a 700 grand player Sheahan now. Awesome logic. Maybe why Skinner is placed right on the 4th line then?
- GilPerreault11

Man you have issues and for this blog, that's saying a lot.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jan 10 @ 2:50 PM ET
Edmonton didn't have a full season with Ralph and a new GM who wanted his own but sure, Carolina had a long look at Skinner and knew him well. If he was so elite why did they toss him away for nothing?
- GilPerreault11


Why did Edmonton toss Hall away for nothing?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 10 @ 2:50 PM ET
Because these so called “strong willed” coaches Ralph and Rob try to square peg round hole players.

Carolina sure has been a model franchise to try to emulate.

- Stripes77

the sabres are right

bury a 40 goal scorer after he is locked up to a 9 mil per year contract


it's a very smart move in a cap era where you can't void contracts
3rd GM's the charm
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Look, it's a situation where thats a great question, OH
Joined: 07.01.2020

Jan 10 @ 2:50 PM ET
Watching the Titans/Ravens game, I'd rather face a burnt out Henry than a Jackson who can't throw. But both of these teams look gassed.
3rd GM's the charm
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Look, it's a situation where thats a great question, OH
Joined: 07.01.2020

Jan 10 @ 2:51 PM ET
Why did Edmonton toss Hall away for nothing?
- kingcong39

Because they drafted McDavid.
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jan 10 @ 2:51 PM ET
Man you have issues and for this blog, that's saying a lot.
- 3rd GM's the charm


Coming from someone with how many names on here? I think you and issues should sit this one out.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 10 @ 2:51 PM ET
Why did Edmonton toss Hall away for nothing?
- kingcong39

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 10 @ 2:53 PM ET
Why did Edmonton toss Hall away for nothing?
- kingcong39

because they knew once they traded hall, hall would not score more goals then sam busthard
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 10 @ 2:54 PM ET
Coming from someone with how many names on here? I think you and issues should sit this one out.
- GilPerreault11

he can stay


at least he comes at me head on


GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jan 10 @ 2:54 PM ET
Why did Edmonton toss Hall away for nothing?
- kingcong39


They had a bad GM who thought Adam Larsson was a better D than he was. He was a top 5 draft pick in his draft year.

Next question
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jan 10 @ 2:56 PM ET
because they knew once they traded hall, hall would not score more goals then sam busthard
- homiedclown


Oh, you miss me now. I am touched.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 10 @ 2:57 PM ET
They had a bad GM who thought Adam Larsson was a better D than he was. He was a top 5 draft pick in his draft year.

Next question

- GilPerreault11

Oh so THAT situation was poorly evaluated by management and coaches, not the player, got it.

Weird that Hall is on his 4th team already

Think it’s a trend
3rd GM's the charm
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Look, it's a situation where thats a great question, OH
Joined: 07.01.2020

Jan 10 @ 2:58 PM ET
They had a bad GM who thought Adam Larsson was a better D than he was. He was a top 5 draft pick in his draft year.

Next question

- GilPerreault11

eh wot
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jan 10 @ 2:59 PM ET
Would you trade that for your 22 yo 1C?
- IonSabres


If he wants out, he wants out.

If a team can put together a better trade package by all means.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jan 10 @ 2:59 PM ET
They had a bad GM who thought Adam Larsson was a better D than he was. He was a top 5 draft pick in his draft year.

Next question

- GilPerreault11


So if a GM makes a bad trade, he sucks.
Yet, a Coach making a piss poor decision gets a bye.
I see.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 10 @ 2:59 PM ET
@Sabremetrix
2019/20 Sabres 5v5 Goals per 60:
1.) Skinner 1.06
2.) Eichel 0.92
3.) Reinhart 0.87

In a career worst shooting % season, with bad linemates, he was still our best natural goal scorer

GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jan 10 @ 3:00 PM ET
Oh so THAT situation was poorly evaluated by management and coaches, not the player, got it.

Weird that Hall is on his 4th team already

Think it’s a trend

- sbroads24


I see a trend of crapping on all Sabres players except Skinner by many posters on here, even ones who haven't had a 14 goal season and earned, let me see 10 million last year.

Now, if we want to talk about people and issues this may take a while.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jan 10 @ 3:02 PM ET
@Sabremetrix
2019/20 Sabres 5v5 Goals per 60:
1.) Skinner 1.06
2.) Eichel 0.92
3.) Reinhart 0.87

In a career worst shooting % season, with bad linemates, he was still our best natural goal scorer

- sbroads24



It’s too easy

Ralph is a bad coach

I’d rather have Housley back
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jan 10 @ 3:04 PM ET
@Sabremetrix
2019/20 Sabres 5v5 Goals per 60:
1.) Skinner 1.06
2.) Eichel 0.92
3.) Reinhart 0.87

In a career worst shooting % season, with bad linemates, he was still our best natural goal scorer

- sbroads24


Right and because he’s uselsss defensively and on special teams that nullifies a lot of what he brings to the table.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 10 @ 3:04 PM ET
I see a trend of crapping on all Sabres players except Skinner by many posters on here, even ones who haven't had a 14 goal season and earned, let me see 10 million last year.

Now, if we want to talk about people and issues this may take a while.

- GilPerreault11

59 game season.

Would = 19 goals in 82 games, all of them at 5 on 5, which would be top 25 in the league

He had a bad year with shooting %, and was still a good goal scorer, without PP time and with undisputed bad line mates.

His contract is bad.

There’s absolutely 0 argument for him being some sort of bad player
3rd GM's the charm
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Look, it's a situation where thats a great question, OH
Joined: 07.01.2020

Jan 10 @ 3:05 PM ET
It’s too easy

Ralph is a bad coach

I’d rather have Housley back

- Stripes77

As beady-eyed and douchey as GMTM, I applaud him for saying he was going to stick with Bylsma that 3rd season. I think in hockey especially, a coach needs at least 3 years before you can dump him off.

Phillip should have had a 3rd year as well.

But Ralph? I wanted him gone after the first 25 games last year.
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