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Camel
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Sudbury, ON
Joined: 04.25.2009

Jan 21 @ 1:37 PM ET
I thought you were out bc “Kuemper’s not any better than what we currently have”

Or do u finally admit how good he is?


And i don’t think the price does go up
Goalies are different than forwards or defensemen at the TDL, bc playoff teams generally aren’t looking to upgrade at that position- they’re usually set
The longer they wait to trade him,
the more the price goes DOWN

He still won’t be “cheap” by any means,
but your theory of Hutton & Ullmark getting the job for us has never seemed likely whatsoever

- jdfitz77

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 21 @ 1:39 PM ET
Godzilla vs. Kong trailer on Sunday.

https://twitter.com/Legen.../1352301955935191041?s=19


- kingcong39

washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jan 21 @ 1:39 PM ET
I thought you were out bc “Kuemper’s not any better than what we currently have”

Or do u finally admit how good he is?


And i don’t think the price does go up
Goalies are different than forwards or defensemen at the TDL, bc playoff teams generally aren’t looking to upgrade at that position- they’re usually set
The longer they wait to trade him,
the more the price goes DOWN

He still won’t be “cheap” by any means,
but your theory of Hutton & Ullmark getting the job for us has never seemed likely whatsoever

- jdfitz77



If anyone is interested, this is the result of poor critical thinking.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jan 21 @ 1:41 PM ET
So on the 2 things you point out:

1: cost to acquire:
-I don’t think it will be top10picks
-Won’t even be 1 top10 pick, as i think he’s the missing piece that gets us into the playoffs
-Also, what about what we could likely LOSE if we don’t acquire him (or another really good goalie)?
Bc if we miss the playoffs again, then say bye to Hall & maybe to Eichel as well

2: how much longer will he be good for?
-he’s signed this year & next, at a very reasonable 4.5mil per- and I’m confident he’ll remain a top10 goalie for that period
-we won’t NEED to have him be our goalie for the next 10years, bc we have UPL coming

In summation....
Here’s what acquiring Kuemper gets us imo:
1- playoffs, which keeps Jack happy & potentially convinces Hall to stay
2- a great bridge to our goalie of the future
3- All for the likely cost of something like a 1st and a decent prospect (Samuelsson?)
4- that actually a LOW COST to get to the playoffs & keep Jack (& maybe Hall), imo

- jdfitz77



Here is an excellent example tunnel vision.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jan 21 @ 1:47 PM ET
Happy Birthday Cab, you old sum b!tch!!!!!!!!
Camel
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Sudbury, ON
Joined: 04.25.2009

Jan 21 @ 1:51 PM ET
I thought you were out bc “Kuemper’s not any better than what we currently have”

Or do u finally admit how good he is?


And i don’t think the price does go up
Goalies are different than forwards or defensemen at the TDL, bc playoff teams generally aren’t looking to upgrade at that position- they’re usually set
The longer they wait to trade him,
the more the price goes DOWN

He still won’t be “cheap” by any means,
but your theory of Hutton & Ullmark getting the job for us has never seemed likely whatsoever

- jdfitz77


He is good but he’s not worth losing assets for especially the ones I’m sure they are after. If the price was reasonable and if he was or is available this would be done by now with some team. Obviously there is some reason he’s still in a yotes shirt. Over rated for the asking price is only one possibility or he isn’t available. I’ll put my money on Ullmark and Hutton and hope for a tad more scoring.
Speaking of small sample sizes UPL hasn’t even played a NHL game yet and you have him penciled in for 10 years of solid goaltending. How about yourself would you trade Eichel if he doesn’t score in the next couple of games.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jan 21 @ 2:02 PM ET
Beane named Pro Football Writers of America's executive of the year
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jan 21 @ 2:07 PM ET
Alex Ovechkin’s wife, Nastya, posted this on Instagram just now. She says Ovechkin and Dmitry Orlov have covid-19 antibodies. https://t.co/ZzxaisAFvW

https://twitter.com/Saman.../1352301501134344195?s=19

Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jan 21 @ 2:07 PM ET
Beane named Pro Football Writers of America's executive of the year
- Powerslave

Yeah nice and Daboll named Assistant Coach of the Year
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jan 21 @ 2:09 PM ET
I floated the idea of Cozens, Olofsson, and a 1st round pick for PLD and the Columbus fans asked where do they sign.
Keepcomplaining
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.01.2020

Jan 21 @ 2:11 PM ET
I floated the idea of Cozens, Olofsson, and a 1st round pick for PLD and the Columbus fans asked where do they sign.
- kingcong39



Thats a little much... Cozens could very well be better and then you send them a 20+ goal scorer AND a 1st. I'd rather give them Dahlin lol.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jan 21 @ 2:20 PM ET
I disagree with you....
but yeah, if u don’t think he makes that much of a difference then of course u don’t trade good pieces for him

- jdfitz77


I think he would make a difference over the course of a season, just not sold that our playoff hopes would rise and fall over that difference. Agreed, that cost to acquire seems like more to me than the juice we'll get out of it. I get why you like him though.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jan 21 @ 2:21 PM ET
I floated the idea of Cozens, Olofsson, and a 1st round pick for PLD and the Columbus fans asked where do they sign.
- kingcong39


Olo and Mitts, and they'll like it.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 21 @ 2:22 PM ET
I floated the idea of Cozens, Olofsson, and a 1st round pick for PLD and the Columbus fans asked where do they sign.
- kingcong39


No way. Signed ,

Sabres fan

Cozens alone might be better than PLD.

This is a ror type package ( trade package) 😀


Do you think PLD has more value than the original tmgm acquisition of ror?

Girgs
Zadarov
Compter
Picks

For ror and maginnis

Bufsaints8
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: TN
Joined: 07.20.2012

Jan 21 @ 2:23 PM ET
The Russian caps that got caught hangin out together will be missing the next 4 games

Per caps coach


So basically ... this weekends games vs the caps are must wins

- Sabretooth9


Excellent! This is what I was hoping to hear earlier. Discipline will play a factor in the standings this year if teams/players can't adhere to the protocols they agreed to.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 21 @ 2:26 PM ET
I floated the idea of Cozens, Olofsson, and a 1st round pick for PLD and the Columbus fans asked where do they sign.
- kingcong39

That’s a hard no from me
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 21 @ 2:27 PM ET
I think some posters might be overlooking the ",outside" view of the Sabres, when it comes to buying out hutton.

Buffalo already has a stigma attached. 9 years worth.

Disregarding a respected veteran like Hutton probably is taken into consideration when looking to replace him.

If I remember Correctly, hutton took less to play for buffalo as a ufa? Maybe we offered 3 instead of 2 years.

Matt moulsoning guys cant be a positive 🤔

jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 21 @ 2:40 PM ET
I think he would make a difference over the course of a season, just not sold that our playoff hopes would rise and fall over that difference. Agreed, that cost to acquire seems like more to me than the juice we'll get out of it. I get why you like him though.
- RhinoFan


Fair enough, good talk sir
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 21 @ 2:42 PM ET
I floated the idea of Cozens, Olofsson, and a 1st round pick for PLD and the Columbus fans asked where do they sign.
- kingcong39


No offense, but are u on crack???
Just kidding (kinda)

But that’s a crazy amount for PLD
He’s a “good” 60point player- NOT a superstar
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 21 @ 2:43 PM ET
I think some posters might be overlooking the ",outside" view of the Sabres, when it comes to buying out hutton.

Buffalo already has a stigma attached. 9 years worth.

Disregarding a respected veteran like Hutton probably is taken into consideration when looking to replace him.

If I remember Correctly, hutton took less to play for buffalo as a ufa? Maybe we offered 3 instead of 2 years.

Matt moulsoning guys cant be a positive 🤔

- Boss34


Where exactly are u getting that Hutton is a “respected vet”?
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jan 21 @ 2:44 PM ET
No offense, but are u on crack???
Just kidding (kinda)

But that’s a crazy amount for PLD
He’s a “good” 60point player- NOT a superstar

- jdfitz77



He puts up Reinhart numbers, but I was told I'm wrong 🤷

So Cozens, Olo and a 1st for Reinhart?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 21 @ 2:46 PM ET
He is good but he’s not worth losing assets for especially the ones I’m sure they are after. If the price was reasonable and if he was or is available this would be done by now with some team. Obviously there is some reason he’s still in a yotes shirt. Over rated for the asking price is only one possibility or he isn’t available. I’ll put my money on Ullmark and Hutton and hope for a tad more scoring.
Speaking of small sample sizes UPL hasn’t even played a NHL game yet and you have him penciled in for 10 years of solid goaltending. How about yourself would you trade Eichel if he doesn’t score in the next couple of games.

- Camel


You’re pretty alone in thinking Hutton/Ullmark is good enough to get us to the playoffs

I could list plenty of examples to show how a goalie upgrade helped a team,
but I’m not gonna waste any more time on something so obvious

Have a good day dude
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 21 @ 2:48 PM ET
He puts up Reinhart numbers, but I was told I'm wrong 🤷

So Cozens, Olo and a 1st for Reinhart?

- Powerslave


I wouldn’t do that (for Reinhart) either

Reinhart for PLD seems pretty close imo
Maybe we add a little bc PLD is a center?

For PLD,
I’d do a 1st & a decent prospect like Samuelsson

But i really think we need to address goalie most importantly
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jan 21 @ 2:48 PM ET
I floated the idea of Cozens, Olofsson, and a 1st round pick for PLD and the Columbus fans asked where do they sign.
- kingcong39


I actually am okay with giving up olofsson. He can’t skate and can just shoot. Way way way too one dimensional
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 21 @ 2:48 PM ET
He puts up Reinhart numbers, but I was told I'm wrong 🤷

So Cozens, Olo and a 1st for Reinhart?

- Powerslave

If we acquire PLD I have a hard time not seeing Reinhart as the main piece going the other way.

Columbus needs forwards.

We can’t pay PLD in two years + Reinhart + Hall etc.

And I’m not moving Cozens because he’s going to be really good, and really cheap for a few years
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