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Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jan 31 @ 10:45 AM ET
You are correct on the above, but it doesn't change the fact that your comment below is entirely wrong and totally misleading.

The only reason Wolford played was because Goff had thumb surgery 12 days before the game.

He did not play because "Goff was so bad".

Jared Goff was so bad they literally started John Wolford in a playoff game.

- kingcong39


They moved two firsts and a third to get rid of his contract. I think that says everything you need to know about what McVay thought of Goff
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 31 @ 10:56 AM ET
Flaccoville- Good value on Stafford.
Actually unbelievable haul in return.

No excuses, gotta win a playoff game right?

- Boss34

playoff record
staff 0-3


goff 6-5



pretty much same td % and int % in their careers


goff had better numbers the first few years in nfl w/o a calvin johnson type wr


but the rams get to enjoy the next tony romo for a few years



homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 31 @ 10:58 AM ET
They moved two firsts and a third to get rid of his contract. I think that says everything you need to know about what McVay thought of Goff
- Pegullaville

so to save 8 mil over 2 years, they gave up 2 first rd picks, a third rd pick and got a qb with a losing record
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jan 31 @ 11:02 AM ET
They moved two firsts and a third to get rid of his contract. I think that says everything you need to know about what McVay thought of Goff
- Pegullaville


Totally agree.

Doesn't change the fact that your statement was misleading and wrong.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jan 31 @ 11:02 AM ET
playoff record
staff 0-3


goff 6-5



pretty much same td % and int % in their careers


goff had better numbers the first few years in nfl w/o a calvin johnson type wr


but the rams get to enjoy the next tony romo for a few years

- homiedclown


What Deshaun Watson had to deal with in Houston this year, Stafford dealt with for a decade.

Apart from Megatron the Lions have had nothing.

They had no running game, no defence, poor coaching, poor management.

Blaming Stafford for the Lions ineptitude would be like blaming Eichel for the Sabres.

I’m not saying Stafford is an elite top 5 QB, but he had several top 10 QBR seasons, he had seasons where he ranked in the 15-20 range.

With McVay he has an offensive coaching mind he has never had. With Kupp and Woods he has two very good receivers. He finally has an o-line that he won’t be running for his life every play. He has a running game that is functional if not great with Akers/Henderson.

I think he will be a top 10 QB in LA and can definitely get them to the Super Bowl with the defence they have there

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 31 @ 11:06 AM ET
What Deshaun Watson had to deal with in Houston this year, Stafford dealt with for a decade.

Apart from Megatron the Lions have had nothing.

They had no running game, no defence, poor coaching, poor management.

Blaming Stafford for the Lions ineptitude would be like blaming Eichel for the Sabres.

I’m not saying Stafford is an elite top 5 QB, but he had several top 10 QBR seasons, he had seasons where he ranked in the 15-20 range.

With McVay he has an offensive coaching mind he has never had. With Kupp and Woods he has two very good receivers. He finally has an o-line that he won’t be running for his life every play. He has a running game that is functional if not great with Akers/Henderson.

I think he will be a top 10 QB in LA and can definitely get them to the Super Bowl with the defence they have there

- Pegullaville

staff had a top 5 all time wr in calvin
won nothing

rams are 26 mil over the cap, so they need to lean on draft picks

of course they go 7 years w/o a first rd pick


sure the rams didn't see enough in goff to keep him, but they sure didn't get better with this trade long term and short term the gap is close between the two


Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 31 @ 11:07 AM ET
playoff record
staff 0-3


goff 6-5



pretty much same td % and int % in their careers


goff had better numbers the first few years in nfl w/o a calvin johnson type wr


but the rams get to enjoy the next tony romo for a few years

- homiedclown


👍

Seems like an awful lot to give up?

If Stafford gets hurt in a year or 2, those Rams picks could easily be top 10.

Watson is gonna get 4 (1st rounders)

Similar to the vanek/ oilers offer 🤔
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jan 31 @ 11:08 AM ET
so to save 8 mil over 2 years, they gave up 2 first rd picks, a third rd pick and got a qb with a losing record
- homiedclown


Did you watch the Rams at all this year ?

I don’t think Goff threw the ball 10 yards past the LOS.

Everything was predicated on short throws to get the ball out of Goff’s hands quickly for YAC ability.

Goff was a bottom 10 QB this year
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 31 @ 11:13 AM ET
Did you watch the Rams at all this year ?

I don’t think Goff threw the ball 10 yards past the LOS.

Everything was predicated on short throws to get the ball out of Goff’s hands quickly for YAC ability.

Goff was a bottom 10 QB this year

- Pegullaville

I watched a bunch of ram games, had woods and cooper on my fantasy teams


they let cooks go, had no burner simple as that


you remove a good wr, you take a step back

you add a good wr like diggs, you take a step forward

had a new offensive coordinator as well, pretty sure that had something to do with it


but keep defending the savior stafford with worse numbers and a hall of fame wr


Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jan 31 @ 11:17 AM ET
staff had a top 5 all time wr in calvin
won nothing

rams are 26 mil over the cap, so they need to lean on draft picks

of course they go 7 years w/o a first rd pick


sure the rams didn't see enough in goff to keep him, but they sure didn't get better with this trade long term and short term the gap is close between the two

- homiedclown


Deshaun Watson had DeAndre Hopkins and didn’t win squat either.

It’s almost like having an elite defence means something.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 31 @ 11:17 AM ET
[quote=Pegullaville]

I’m not saying Stafford is an elite top 5 QB, but he had several top 10 QBR seasons, he had seasons where he ranked in the 15-20 range.
/quote]
same td %
same int %
goff has better win % by a lot
goff has a winning playoff record, staff 0-3
goff has better yards per attempt
staff has 10 more yards per game

goff wants to play hurt, staff goes through the motions

they saved 8 mil over 2 years for an older statue qb and gave up a bunch of picks


and they are still way over the cap, so expect some cap hits w/o having first rounders to plug in your lineup on the cheap
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jan 31 @ 11:18 AM ET
staff had a top 5 all time wr in calvin
won nothing

rams are 26 mil over the cap, so they need to lean on draft picks

of course they go 7 years w/o a first rd pick


sure the rams didn't see enough in goff to keep him, but they sure didn't get better with this trade long term and short term the gap is close between the two

- homiedclown


I’m indifferent on the trade, see it from both sides. Was never a Goff fan. There’s no doubt that Goff was in a better system and better talent then Stafford tho. Golic Jr tweeted something about the difference in them, always seemed the Rams were too 5, lions 20somethings. It also can’t be ignored that the 3 years megatron didn’t have Stafford were his worst years by far, and he got an all pro and pro bowl with Stafford, bagels without.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 31 @ 11:20 AM ET
[quote=Pegullaville]

I’m not saying Stafford is an elite top 5 QB, but he had several top 10 QBR seasons, he had seasons where he ranked in the 15-20 range.
/quote]
same td %
same int %
goff has better win % by a lot
goff has a winning playoff record, staff 0-3
goff has better yards per attempt
staff has 10 more yards per game

goff wants to play hurt, staff goes through the motions

they saved 8 mil over 2 years for an older statue qb and gave up a bunch of picks


and they are still way over the cap, so expect some cap hits w/o having first rounders to plug in your lineup on the cheap

- homiedclown


Fantasy football wise : Stafford is gonna be top 10 qb.

Rams throw when behind, tied and ahead.

Staff has some injury worries for me...
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 31 @ 11:20 AM ET
Deshaun Watson had DeAndre Hopkins and didn’t win squat either.

It’s almost like having an elite defence means something.

- Pegullaville

texans record was the exact same the 4 years w/o watson as with him

same regular season record, same playoff record

watson did win a few playoff games with hopkins, something staff could not do with johnson


just because your a loser on a poorly run franchise, does not mean shipping somewhere else is going to make you or the team better


the rams with this trade could still be the worst team in the division the next 2 years

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 31 @ 11:22 AM ET
Fantasy football wise : Stafford is gonna be top 10 qb.

Rams throw when behind, tied and ahead.

Staff has some injury worries for me...

- Boss34

cam akers could lead the nfc in rushing next season
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jan 31 @ 11:27 AM ET
We have recalled forward Casey Mittelstadt from our taxi squad.

https://twitter.com/Buffa.../1355912624316289036?s=19
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jan 31 @ 11:28 AM ET
texans record was the exact same the 4 years w/o watson as with him

same regular season record, same playoff record

watson did win a few playoff games with hopkins, something staff could not do with johnson


just because your a loser on a poorly run franchise, does not mean shipping somewhere else is going to make you or the team better


the rams with this trade could still be the worst team in the division the next 2 years

- homiedclown


Deshaun Watson is 1-2 in the playoffs.

Only game he won was over the Bills in the wild card.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jan 31 @ 11:35 AM ET
Aaron Rodgers hasn’t won squat with Devante Adams.

Michael Thomas never won a ring with Brees.

Antonio Brown never won with Ben in Pittsburgh.

Matt Ryan never got a ring with Julio Jones.

Carson Palmer never got a ring with Chad Johnson

Andre Johnson never won a ring.

Aj Green has zip.

Terell Owens won zip.

Larry Fitzgerald won zip.

Randy Moss ? Nada.


Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Jan 31 @ 11:37 AM ET
We have recalled forward Casey Mittelstadt from our taxi squad.

https://twitter.com/Buffa.../1355912624316289036?s=19

- kingcong39


Sitting Tage or someone else and keeping Tage in...
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 31 @ 11:45 AM ET
Aaron Rodgers hasn’t won squat with Devante Adams.

Michael Thomas never won a ring with Brees.

Antonio Brown never won with Ben in Pittsburgh.

Matt Ryan never got a ring with Julio Jones.

Carson Palmer never got a ring with Chad Johnson

Andre Johnson never won a ring.

Aj Green has zip.

Terell Owens won zip.

Larry Fitzgerald won zip.

Randy Moss ? Nada.

- Pegullaville

they all have more playoff wins then matt stafford
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 31 @ 11:48 AM ET
Aaron Rodgers hasn’t won squat with Devante Adams.

Michael Thomas never won a ring with Brees.

Antonio Brown never won with Ben in Pittsburgh.

Matt Ryan never got a ring with Julio Jones.

Carson Palmer never got a ring with Chad Johnson

Andre Johnson never won a ring.

Aj Green has zip.

Terell Owens won zip.

Larry Fitzgerald won zip.

Randy Moss ? Nada.

- Pegullaville

Most of these guys made Super Bowls and have had playoff success

I think you severely underestimate how few NFL players actually win a SB during their careers
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jan 31 @ 11:51 AM ET
they all have more playoff wins then matt stafford
- homiedclown


Well we’ll see what Stafford can do in a functioning NFL franchise.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 31 @ 12:00 PM ET
We have recalled forward Casey Mittelstadt from our taxi squad.

https://twitter.com/Buffa.../1355912624316289036?s=19

- kingcong39

they only had 1 extra guy up front and on the d for the roster, right?



irwin and skunk?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 31 @ 12:11 PM ET

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
· 8m
DeAngelo (NYR) on waivers
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jan 31 @ 12:14 PM ET
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
· 8m
DeAngelo (NYR) on waivers

- homiedclown

Wow, that's interesting
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