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Forums :: Blog World :: Michael Pachla: The 2020-21 season is upon us. A look at the Buffalo Sabres
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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Feb 7 @ 1:02 PM ET
We have three of the most unluckiest forwards in the league right now.


- Pegullaville

Interesting names on there.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Feb 7 @ 1:03 PM ET
Reider - Eakin - Lazar should be our 4th line.
Cozens should be close to getting ready to play C full time...maybe 10 more games with Staal and Hall, then:
Sheahan/Mitts - Cozens - Mitts/Sheahan

Skinner - Jack - Sam
Hall - Staal - Olofsson
Mitts - Cozens - Sheahan
Reider - Eakin - Lazar

Maybe Covid will knock some sense into Ralphie-boy.

- IonSabres


I would go

Olofsson-Eichel-Reinhart
Hall-Staal-Cozens
Skinner-Lazar-Sheahan
Reider-Eakin-Mitts

Gives the top 6 two dominant pairs on each line (Eichel/Reinahrt, Hall/Cozens).

Skinner-Lazar-Sheahan have been very good as a trio and gives a spark to our bottom 6 scoring.

Having Mitts with Eakin and Reider allows them to get back to treading above water and gets Okposo out of the lineup
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 7 @ 1:26 PM ET
Not to go over it again and again, but this 100%
- SDSabre


Let me know when either of these guys score 12 goals this year.

Not to go over it again and again.

Girgs was rewarded with a good contract after a very successful year.

Skimmer though, that guy isnt the problem šŸ˜€
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Feb 7 @ 1:36 PM ET
Let me know when either of these guys score 12 goals this year.

Not to go over it again and again.

Girgs was rewarded with a good contract after a very successful year.

Skimmer though, that guy isnt the problem šŸ˜€

- Boss34

Well Lazar is well on his way, and to make it a little even if Lazar gets 9 or 10 should be pretty close to Girgs 12 in 69gms cause of the schedule this year.
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Feb 7 @ 1:45 PM ET
Texans say they won't trade Watson
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Feb 7 @ 1:47 PM ET
Texans say they won't trade Watson
- dmarsden2988

Well that could get interesting, don't really blame them, but they have nothing to help build around him.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Feb 7 @ 1:47 PM ET
Let me know when either of these guys score 12 goals this year.

Not to go over it again and again.

Girgs was rewarded with a good contract after a very successful year.

Skimmer though, that guy isnt the problem šŸ˜€

- Boss34


Track record shows skinner will score more and Girgs will regress. Girgs hits double digit goals twice in 7 years, letā€™s reward him. Meanwhile Kahun has 2/2 double digit goals in his career, is younger, and prolly costs the same (and scored 2 in 6 games here). Also very real possibility that Rieder scores 10+ this year and Sheahan has done it as many times as Girgs has while costing 1/3 of his salary.
Camel
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Sudbury, ON
Joined: 04.25.2009

Feb 7 @ 1:50 PM ET
I really canā€™t believe adams hasnā€™t made a move trade wise during this covid vacation.

The player brought in couldā€™ve quarantined while waiting

- Sabretooth9


Excellent idea if they were contemplating a trade. This should be a telling tale that nothing is going down. Prices are high and that could be the biggest reason.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Feb 7 @ 1:52 PM ET
Well that could get interesting, don't really blame them, but they have nothing to help build around him.
- Buff36


Not to mention they just dumped the old equipment manager and staff and Watson reported is pissed theyā€™re getting rid of everyone who isnā€™t a yes man. No way this just goes back to normal
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 7 @ 1:53 PM ET
Well Lazar is well on his way, and to make it a little even if Lazar gets 9 or 10 should be pretty close to Girgs 12 in 69gms cause of the schedule this year.
- Buff36


Lazar did have a career high 6 goals twice, 5+ years ago.

And 11 goals over parts of the next 6 nhl seasons

So, I like Larry lazar, but I'll take the under šŸ˜€
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 7 @ 1:57 PM ET
Track record shows skinner will score more and Girgs will regress. Girgs hits double digit goals twice in 7 years, letā€™s reward him. Meanwhile Kahun has 2/2 double digit goals in his career, is younger, and prolly costs the same (and scored 2 in 6 games here). Also very real possibility that Rieder scores 10+ this year and Sheahan has done it as many times as Girgs has while costing 1/3 of his salary.
- SDSabre



I respect your opinion, because I like you as a poster.

Girgs is much better than reider, lazar, sheahan and kahun.

He just scored 12 goals, last season.
He was paid because he has size, penalty kills and is a good defensive forward.

Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 7 @ 1:57 PM ET
Track record shows skinner will score more and Girgs will regress. Girgs hits double digit goals twice in 7 years, letā€™s reward him. Meanwhile Kahun has 2/2 double digit goals in his career, is younger, and prolly costs the same (and scored 2 in 6 games here). Also very real possibility that Rieder scores 10+ this year and Sheahan has done it as many times as Girgs has while costing 1/3 of his salary.
- SDSabre



I respect your opinion, because I like you as a poster.

Girgs is much better than reider, lazar, sheahan and kahun.

He just scored 12 goals, last season.
He was paid because he has size, penalty kills and is a good defensive forward.

*skimmer making 4 times as much as girgs.
Tough comparison.
1 more point than you, me and girgs combined
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Feb 7 @ 1:58 PM ET
Lazar did have a career high 6 goals twice, 5+ years ago.

And 11 goals over parts of the next 6 nhl seasons

So, I like Larry lazar, but I'll take the under šŸ˜€

- Boss34

That's cool Boss, maybe Lazar is having a career year like Girgs did last year.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Feb 7 @ 2:00 PM ET
I respect your opinion, because I like you as a poster.

Girgs is much better than reider, lazar, sheahan and kahun.

He just scored 12 goals, last season.
He was paid because he has size, penalty kills and is a good defensive forward.

- Boss34


He might be better (will Grant you he prolly is)but hes still a 4th liner. And didnā€™t we have a bottom 5 PK last year? He plays hard, most 4th liners do. Think heā€™s overpaid because heā€™s a good guy whoā€™s been here. Itā€™s not even the salary that bugged me. I donā€™t like the 3 year term. Take it year by year with those guys imo. 2 if theyā€™ll take a discount.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 7 @ 2:02 PM ET
That's cool Boss, maybe Lazar is having a career year like Girgs did last year.
- Buff36


Maybe

Although girgs outscored lazar every single season
Gigs had 15 goals, so 12 goals is not a career year.

7 goals for lazar would be a career year though for lazar.

Love his game, but compared to girgs šŸ˜
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Feb 7 @ 2:05 PM ET
I respect your opinion, because I like you as a poster.

Girgs is much better than reider, lazar, sheahan and kahun.

He just scored 12 goals, last season.
He was paid because he has size, penalty kills and is a good defensive forward.

*skimmer making 4 times as much as girgs.
Tough comparison.
1 more point than you, me and girgs combined

- Boss34


I never even said anything about skinner either. You brought him up like Iā€™m supposed to defend him. I thought you liked him. Heā€™s clearly better than Girgs and is snake bitten and being jerked around. The talk was always why Girgs and not Kahun. For the same price, give me the new guy who hasnā€™t been part of the losing culture. Or if you can keep both, cool. Doesnā€™t matter, Iā€™ll cheer for Girgs, and I do like him as a hard working guy. But he also cashed in on a career year when he actually played his role for the rest of his career (his 15/15 year getting PP time and first/second line minutes isnā€™t who he is
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Feb 7 @ 2:05 PM ET
Not to mention they just dumped the old equipment manager and staff and Watson reported is pissed theyā€™re getting rid of everyone who isnā€™t a yes man. No way this just goes back to normal
- SDSabre

They are in a world of hurt there in Houston, almost 10mill over the cap, and that's going of a number before the cap is even adjusted, no 1st or 2nd rnd picks this year. Gonna get real interesting.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 7 @ 2:06 PM ET
He might be better (will Grant you he prolly is)but hes still a 4th liner. And didnā€™t we have a bottom 5 PK last year? He plays hard, most 4th liners do. Think heā€™s overpaid because heā€™s a good guy whoā€™s been here. Itā€™s not even the salary that bugged me. I donā€™t like the 3 year term. Take it year by year with those guys imo. 2 if theyā€™ll take a discount.
- SDSabre


You get what you pay for.

The coach clearly liked both guys.

With 12 goals last season and a 15 goal season under his belt, girgs could play up and down the line up.

Ufa's are different. Had to anti up , to keep him.

Why constantly bring up the extra 1/2 million per, for a guy that played well last season ( a contact year)

Skimmer is getting paid 4 or 5 million too much
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 7 @ 2:07 PM ET
He might be better (will Grant you he prolly is)but hes still a 4th liner. And didnā€™t we have a bottom 5 PK last year? He plays hard, most 4th liners do. Think heā€™s overpaid because heā€™s a good guy whoā€™s been here. Itā€™s not even the salary that bugged me. I donā€™t like the 3 year term. Take it year by year with those guys imo. 2 if theyā€™ll take a discount.
- SDSabre

Heā€™s not really better. Theyā€™re all mediocre with the exception of Kahun.

Oilers fans already like him a ton, just like Hawk fans did and Penguins fans.

Adams made a mistake. Weā€™d have been better off letting Girgensons walk. He canā€™t even play this year
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 7 @ 2:08 PM ET
They are in a world of hurt there in Houston, almost 10mill over the cap, and that's going of a number before the cap is even adjusted, no 1st or 2nd rnd picks this year. Gonna get real interesting.
- Buff36


Maybe the Sabres get a front end view of watson, in case they have to deal with eichel......
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Feb 7 @ 2:12 PM ET
Maybe the Sabres get a front end view of watson, in case they have to deal with eichel......
- Boss34

Interesting take.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 7 @ 2:14 PM ET
Lysowski had a decent article about Ralph and his line Combinations and how it is hard to find players that can mesh with Eichel's speed and skill and needs to put aside the Skinner feelings, cause obviously Skinner was one of those players.
- Buff36


Amazing that we fans and the mindless friggin media can see it, but the coach and staff with 80 games with him can't.
Ralph needs to change or go. That's what good modern coaches do, adapt to the players one has to optimize their team, rather than force square pegs in round holes.

If he hasn't reconfigured the lineup to do this upon returning, then calls for his head are justified.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 7 @ 2:17 PM ET
We have three of the most unluckiest forwards in the league right now.


- Pegullaville


We have a coach who absolutely refuses to optimize his lineup.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 7 @ 2:18 PM ET
Amazing that we fans and the mindless friggin media can see it, but the coach and staff with 80 games with him can't.
Ralph needs to change or go. That's what good modern coaches do, adapt to the players one has to optimize their team, rather than force square pegs in round holes.

If he hasn't reconfigured the lineup to do this upon returning, then calls for his head are justified.

- IonSabres



Of all of the Sabres forwards, who can actually score on their own?

Eichel
2017 mvp hall
Skimmer

If skimmer cashed in and had 3 or 4 goals like lazar, would you be ok with skimmer on the 4th. Line?

He has had a ton of chances and has played very well, aside from finishing...

Is that Krueger's fault?
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Feb 7 @ 2:24 PM ET
Of all of the Sabres forwards, who can actually score on their own?

Eichel
2017 mvp hall
Skimmer

If skimmer cashed in and had 3 or 4 goals like lazar, would you be ok with skimmer on the 4th. Line?

He has had a ton of chances and has played very well, aside from finishing...

Is that Krueger's fault?

- Boss34

No it's not, still doesn't mean he's optimized his line combinations. He could still put together a decent bottom 6 and still move Skinner up to 1LW.
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