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Forums :: Blog World :: Michael Pachla: The 2020-21 season is upon us. A look at the Buffalo Sabres
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SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Feb 8 @ 8:52 AM ET
Can we just sh!t can this season already. What is the point of continuing this farce?

https://www.radio.com/wgr...n-nhls-covid-19-protocols

- rapperray

just can the team and the franchise.. they are a joke
rapperray
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Thank God I don't live in NY anymore, NY
Joined: 02.22.2007

Feb 8 @ 8:55 AM ET
just can the team and the franchise.. they are a joke
- SabresFaninIndiana



Sarcasm or serious?
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 8 @ 9:02 AM ET
That's even better, the way contracts are now, 8-9 is usually the 4th line.
- SABRES 89


Maybe, but I wouldn't.
Couple at $1.5m, 1 at $2 - $3m max

I say that based on paying Forwards about $50- $53m of the $81.5m cap
L1 = $22m
L2 = $15m
L3 = $9m
L4 = $5m

If your paying 4th line $9m; then you have to cut corners, or have a bunch of ELC's on line 1 - 3
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Feb 8 @ 9:43 AM ET
Maybe, but I wouldn't.
Couple at $1.5m, 1 at $2 - $3m max

I say that based on paying Forwards about $50- $53m of the $81.5m cap
L1 = $22m
L2 = $15m
L3 = $9m
L4 = $5m

If your paying 4th line $9m; then you have to cut corners, or have a bunch of ELC's on line 1 - 3

- IonSabres


And right now we have a $9 mill 4th lw. And a $6 mill 3rd rw...

Line one is close at $23.2.
But line 2 is at like $7
And line 3 is still at $8.9.
With line 4 at $10.5.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 8 @ 10:00 AM ET
1 person here was talking about how we should draft him
Loved him coming outta LSU

- jdfitz77

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...p?thread_id=159357&page=4


didn't matter he went 5th

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 8 @ 10:04 AM ET
Maybe, but I wouldn't.
Couple at $1.5m, 1 at $2 - $3m max

I say that based on paying Forwards about $50- $53m of the $81.5m cap
L1 = $22m
L2 = $15m
L3 = $9m
L4 = $5m

If your paying 4th line $9m; then you have to cut corners, or have a bunch of ELC's on line 1 - 3

- IonSabres

at least dahlin is not gonna break the bank so we will have money for that risto extension

SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Feb 8 @ 10:04 AM ET
Sarcasm or serious?
- rapperray

i dont even know anymore.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 8 @ 10:08 AM ET
i dont even know anymore.
- SabresFaninIndiana

does it matter?
MGK
Joined: 02.01.2021

Feb 8 @ 10:09 AM ET
at least dahlin is not gonna break the bank so we will have money for that risto extension


- homiedclown


Hopefully they sign him long term for 5--6 million then
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 8 @ 10:15 AM ET
looks like we may be kicking the tires on Jake Virtanen


sounds like a guy boss would like

I don't know much about him


https://www.spectorshocke...mor-mill-february-8-2021/
MGK
Joined: 02.01.2021

Feb 8 @ 10:20 AM ET
looks like we may be kicking the tires on Jake Virtanen


sounds like a guy boss would like

I don't know much about him


https://www.spectorshocke...mor-mill-february-8-2021/

- homiedclown


Rather get Bennett .
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 8 @ 10:44 AM ET
And right now we have a $9 mill 4th lw. And a $6 mill 3rd rw...

Line one is close at $23.2.
But line 2 is at like $7
And line 3 is still at $8.9.
With line 4 at $10.5.

- Gr8daygo


Ya, Sabres Cap/roster is a mess. Right now they are getting away with it because the have Dahlin and Joker on ELC's and 2 Goalies at less than $6m.
Robbing Peter to pay Paul.

That all changes dramatically next season.

But for now, IF they optimized their roster in the F ranks, it would look something like

L1 - Skinner-Eichel-Sam = $23.2m
L2 - Hall- Staal-Olofsson = $14.3m
L3 - Mitts-Cozens-Sheahan =$2.5
L4 - Reider-Eakin-Lazar = $3.75 (+$4.9m = $8.65 ; for Okposso after Taxi/Amerks)
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 8 @ 10:48 AM ET
looks like we may be kicking the tires on Jake Virtanen


sounds like a guy boss would like

I don't know much about him


https://www.spectorshocke...mor-mill-february-8-2021/

- homiedclown


Botts isn't a candidate for Pens GM...hmm stunning.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 8 @ 10:49 AM ET
looks like we may be kicking the tires on Jake Virtanen


sounds like a guy boss would like

I don't know much about him


https://www.spectorshocke...mor-mill-february-8-2021/

- homiedclown


Where was he drafted in the Larry Fantasy league? That should tell you rverything.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 8 @ 11:01 AM ET
Where was he drafted in the Larry Fantasy league? That should tell you rverything.
- IonSabres

SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Feb 8 @ 11:07 AM ET
Botts isn't a candidate for Pens GM...hmm stunning.
- IonSabres

yeah after that botch job he did in Buffalo it might be a while before he is considered for a head GM job

EDIT: Unless there is a team that is set on offense and goalie and just need someone to come in and draft 8 million D men to fill out the roster.. then he might be considered
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Feb 8 @ 11:07 AM ET
Botts isn't a candidate for Pens GM...hmm stunning.
- IonSabres

He is in the best place for us with the Kracken, Skinner's deal starts becoming a lot easier to move next year.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 8 @ 11:10 AM ET
I don't understand the logic the Sabres employ, IF what 89 says about the Team wanting to trade Skinner...and I don't have reason to doubt what he posted.

Normally, teams would try to showcase the asset to build value. In such a scenario, one might expect for the HC to be directed to reconnect Skinner with Eichel and Sam in the hope of re-igniting his productivity.

Krueger? Not so much, let's play him with L3/L4 players and reduce his TOI.
As a result, his
-ATOI is down 25.5% from ~ 18:30 to 13:50.
-High Danger Chances For is down about 6.5%

As a result, his ixG this season is 2.65 G's...so his actual production is off by that many goals this season so far. He needs to puck if up for sure...that isn't the argument, rather it's the how to get him there.

FYI, during his 40 G season, his actual goals out produced his ixG by some 13.n due to a historically high shooting percentage...probably from better feeds from Eichel..i.e better high- danger chances...like Steve Valiquette poi ts out, not all HDC's are created equal either.

So, for a Analytics driven team, why aren't they doing it?
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Feb 8 @ 11:12 AM ET
I don't understand the logic the Sabres employ, IF what 89 says about the Team wanting to trade Skinner...and I don't have reason to doubt what he posted.

Normally, teams would try to showcase the asset to build value. In such a scenario, one might expect for the HC to be directed to reconnect Skinner with Eichel and Sam in the hope of re-igniting his productivity.

Krueger? Not so much, let's play him with L3/L4 players and reduce his TOI.
As a result, his
-ATOI is down 25.5% from ~ 18:30 to 13:50.
-High Danger Chances For is down about 6.5%

As a result, his ixG this season is 2.65 G's...so his actual production is off by that many goals this season so far. He needs to puck if up for sure...that isn't the argument, rather it's the how to get him there.

FYI, during his 40 G season, his actual goals out produced his ixG by some 13.n due to a historically high shooting percentage...probably from better feeds from Eichel..i.e better high- danger chances...like Steve Valiquette poi ts out, not all HDC's are created equal either.

So, for a Analytics driven team, why aren't they doing it?

- IonSabres



They think they're smarter than everyone else, when they're only going to outsmart themselves?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 8 @ 11:15 AM ET



the radio play by play is priceless


IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 8 @ 11:18 AM ET
He is in the best place for us with the Kracken, Skinner's deal starts becoming a lot easier to move next year.
- Buff36


Yes.
But I was hoping to see a trade like,
Malkin
For
Eakin, Okposo, CJ Smith and a 4th
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 8 @ 11:21 AM ET
Yes.
But I was hoping to see a trade like,
Malkin
For
Eakin, Okposo, CJ Smith and a 4th

- IonSabres


1 minute 13 sec mark
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 8 @ 11:24 AM ET



the radio play by play is priceless

- homiedclown


Kevin Harlan is so damn good at his job.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Feb 8 @ 11:25 AM ET
Botterill could have signed Skinner for 7-7.5 a year but he waited it out and got stuck.I mentioned that when Skinner signed.
3rd GM's the charm
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Look, it's a situation where thats a great question, OH
Joined: 07.01.2020

Feb 8 @ 11:27 AM ET
Botterill could have signed Skinner for 7-7.5 a year but he waited it out and got stuck.I mentioned that when Skinner signed.
- SABRES 89

Thanks Obama
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