Different issue. Even if they change it from top to bottom, is a cup parade going to come to buffalo by the end of eichels contract? If no, almost assuredly no, make the move now and get a max return. It sucks, I agree.
- TheHank

Same issue... ok, say your premise is right, the cheap management structure won’t win you any trades and won’t use those assets properly to build the team properly.

Oh I think it's an answer.

3 years after we trade Eichel you'll be sitting there with gunpowder on your face wondering how the roadrunner got the best of you
- jcragcrumple

It's kinda a conundrum.

How many seasons before his no trade clause? 2

What if he plays like he is currently, the rest of this season.

Still want him for the next 5?


You will never get enough in return for eichel.
I completely agree with you.

You're advocating for the same flawed logic that saw us get Tage Thompson and Vlad Sobotka for ROR.

It was a terrible idea then, and it's a terrible idea now.

Maybe in 5 years you can tell us we should trade Spencer Fisher who has 80 points in 82 games because we never retain talent and the rest of the team sucks and we're bottom-10 still
- jcragcrumple

Really and what have we done in 6 years with him? so we are supposed to just keep missing the playoffs until he wants out.This team is going no place fast.

You're advocating for the same flawed logic that saw us get Tage Thompson and Vlad Sobotka for ROR.

It was a terrible idea then, and it's a terrible idea now.

Maybe in 5 years you can tell us we should trade Spencer Fisher who has 80 points in 82 games because we never retain talent and the rest of the team sucks.
- jcragcrumple

It’s not the same logic at all. What are you even talking about?

The logic in trading Eichel is rebuilding the entire build of your roster

Did we rebuild when we traded ROR

And you have yet to answer what happened to Colorado when they also traded Ryan O’Reilly for almost nothing

I do hear ya
But the good thing in our favor if we decide to trade Jack is that we won’t have a timeline that hinders the return we’d get

This is assuming we don’t rush into a bad deal,
of course
- jdfitz77

Agreed.

Would you do it then? Seriously.

You're advocating for the same flawed logic that saw us get Tage Thompson and Vlad Sobotka for ROR.

It was a terrible idea then, and it's a terrible idea now.


- jcragcrumple

we also got miller and Ryan Johnson for ror

Same issue... ok, say your premise is right, the cheap management structure won’t win you any trades and won’t use those assets properly to build the team properly.
- Gr8daygo

Fair enough. So you’re advocating for just being a 25th place team forever? It sucks either way. I’m spent.

we also got miller and Ryan Johnson for ror
- homiedclown

Don’t forget berglund!

It's kinda a conundrum.

How many seasons before his no trade clause? 2

What if he plays like he is currently, the rest of this season.

Still want him for the next 5?


You will never get enough in return for eichel.
I completely agree with you.
- Boss34

jack's NMC kicks in after the 21-22 season


so if your trading him, the time is this off season

we also got miller and Ryan Johnson for ror
- homiedclown

Trade them all and start over yet again but if they keep Krueger, there is no point. It will just be rinse, wash, repeat.

Don’t forget berglund!
- TheHank

Vontae Davis lite

Max Domi
Conor Garland
and 2 picks
Could have been Sabres if Botts would have gotten the Ok on ROR bonus, they hesitated for to long and 2 days later Domi was a Canadian

There’s still a TON of work to do in there to renovate it
Only the main level was done
It’s gonna take years to complete
- jdfitz77

A lot of floors are already gutted. He’s had heavy equipment in the basement clearing it out for a while. The guy gets poop done. He’ll have people moving in there before you know it.

It’s not the same logic at all. What are you even talking about?

The logic in trading Eichel is rebuilding the entire build of your roster

Did we rebuild when we traded ROR

And you have yet to answer what happened to Colorado when they also traded Ryan O’Reilly for almost nothing
- sbroads24

Yes, for 2 seasons under Botterill while Pegulaville told us that salvation was a Mittlestadt, Dahlin or Cozens away.

We wandered the wilderness for 10 years from 2006-2015 looking for a 1C, and now all of you are so ready to jump back into it. There is recent historical precedence on THIS team to demonstrate that this logic is faulty.

You trade him and you spend the next ten years searching for him

Max Domi
Conor Garland
and 2 picks
Could have been Sabres if Botts would have gotten the Ok on ROR bonus, they hesitated for to long and 2 days later Domi was a Canadian
- Buff36

No poop? What picks? Any word?

we also got miller and Ryan Johnson for ror
- homiedclown

That changes my opinion entirely of the trade

Yes, for 2 seasons under Botterill while Pegulaville told us that salvation was a Mittlestadt, Dahlin or Cozens away.

We wandered the wilderness for 10 years from 2006-2015 looking for a 1C, and now all of you are so ready to jump back into it. There is recent historical precedence on THIS team to demonstrate that this logic is faulty.

You trade him and you spend the next ten years searching for him
- jcragcrumple

And where are we going with him ?they brought in Jeff Skinner, Hall, Staal and others and we still suck. Stop already.

We still can't make the playoffs but hey, atleast we can still pay Eichel 10 mill a year

Yes, for 2 seasons under Botterill while Pegulaville told us that salvation was a Mittlestadt, Dahlin or Cozens away.

We wandered the wilderness for 10 years from 2006-2015 looking for a 1C, and now all of you are so ready to jump back into it. There is recent historical precedence on THIS team to demonstrate that this logic is faulty.

You trade him and you spend the next ten years searching for him
- jcragcrumple

This is just false man. We did nothing of the sort -

Our franchise player the year we had ROR - Jack Eichel, year after - Jack Eichel

The #1 defensemen the year we had ROR - Rasmus Ristolainen , year after - Ristolainen

Our top line RW- Sam Reinhart - next year - Sam Reinhart

Our goalies the year we had him- bad - our goalies the year after - bad

Our top checking forwards - Larsson, Girgensons, year after - Larsson, Girgensons

We literally still have most of these guys

The result will be the same. We look like idiots and we get some version of a tall, spinning idiot in return while Eichel wins a cup
- jcragcrumple

I wish I could steal the name Tall Spinning Idiot. Bravo!

And where are we going with him ?they brought in Jeff Skinner, Hall, Staal and others and we still suck. Stop already.
- SABRES 89

This mess is no more Eichel's fault than it was ROR's fault. And when you inevitably get your way and the Sabres run him out of town as we do with all our good players, you'll realize "huh, maybe it wasn't his fault"

Or more likely, we'll do this again in 5 years with a player not yet drafted

We still can't make the playoffs but hey, atleast we can still pay Eichel 10 mill a year
- SABRES 89

Insert Malkevich rounders gif.

Rumors that the Hilton empire has or is buying it
- jdfitz77

Not true.

This mess is no more Eichel's fault than it was ROR's fault. And when you inevitably get your way and the Sabres run him out of town as we do with all our good players, you'll realize "huh, maybe it wasn't his fault"

Or more likely, we'll do this again in 5 years with a player not yet drafted
- jcragcrumple

So just keep on keeping on 25th place?

Not true.
- Frizzlefry

BOOM