Texans just released RB Duke Johnson

Could be a cheap Option

Ok. I’m not comparing but when you say things like he was really good in the first it’s not a statement I take as a positive. Thompson, Okposo and many other sh!t on players have had good one period performances. Live by your own beliefs and don’t defend someone for underachieving especially an MVP who played some good shifts at best.
I’m sure Ralph didn’t tell Hall to use the samePeeWee move on all his breakaways.
- Camel

Hall did play well in the 1st last night
He was all over the place

Everyone is underachieving at 5v5
Singling out Hall makes no sense

Plus rumors have connected Hall there.
- Buff36

Tkachuk for Hall (extended) +

Weren’t there some shenanigans in the Crosby draft as well?!?
- Gr8daygo

I sometimes wonder how many more lockouts, terrible tv deals and things like this have to happen before Gary bettman gets the can. the guy is like nails on a chalkboard.

Tkachuk for Hall (extended) +
- jdfitz77

They could just wait till he's a ufa

Hall did play well in the 1st last night
He was all over the place

Everyone is underachieving at 5v5
Singling out Hall makes no sense
- jdfitz77

There is enough blame to go around and you’re right putting a loss on one guy doesn’t make sense in a team game. I’m glad you pointed that out. He did have one good period I do agree.

I got nothing.

Anyone on here have secondary teams you watch or (secretly) pull for? Asking for a friend...
- Powerslave

Living in Ottawa, the Sens. Fast young exciting team. Owner, well, he’s been quiet and hopefully stays that way. Stutzle is gonna be a star.

How about Teven Jenkins at 30 for the Bill's.
- Buff36

Experts have him a day 2 guy..
I like Liam Eichenberg - Notre Dame

Experts have him a day 2 guy..
I like Liam Eichenberg - Notre Dame
- 22sabresQ

Like him to, watched some video of Jenkins, just nasty

Tkachuk for Hall (extended) +
- jdfitz77

Tkachuk (both of them) are some of the best players in the league. They aren’t taking that scrub for either of them

Samson for Tachuk (spelling). I’d do that! And I like Sam. I just like the type of game tachuks play. This team doesn’t have the ballls to do it.
- Gr8daygo

Tkachuk plays on Calgary, NOT Vancouver

They could just wait till he's a ufa
- Elite Josh Allen

Sure, but they’re risking we sign him before he even gets to UFA
Or we trade him to someone else who signs him
I’m sure he’ll have plenty of offers too

Can anyone think of any examples where a player was extended, and then immediately traded?

There is enough blame to go around and you’re right putting a loss on one guy doesn’t make sense in a team game. I’m glad you pointed that out. He did have one good period I do agree.
- Camel

Fair enough

Would be nice to see Ralph open things up & let these guys really attack offensively

Tkachuk (both of them) are some of the best players in the league. They aren’t taking that scrub for either of them
- Fattony1187

Taylor Hall was league MVP a couple years ago
Calling him a “scrub” is utter nonsense

Can anyone think of any examples where a player was extended, and then immediately traded?
- SoCalPucks

Nope
But an extension for Stone was pretty much worked out when he was traded to Vegas
Vegas wasn’t giving all that up to see him walk

If Hall did re-sign with us,
I’d assume he’d get a NMC in the deal

Nope
But an extension for Stone was pretty much worked out when he was traded to Vegas
Vegas wasn’t giving all that up to see him walk

If Hall did re-sign with us,
I’d assume he’d get a NMC in the deal
- jdfitz77

I know UFAs control quite a bit in the negotiation process, but at a) the age the become UFAs, coupled with b) the long length of contract term for most; makes me want very little to do with the FA market for high-end guys.

Hall is a case in point, just like Skinner was. I'd be comfortable paying a decent amount for a shorter 4 or 5 year term, and certainly would not extend full NMC's.

4 x $8 w/ modified-NTC as 10 Team no trade List would be the preferred target. Begin negotiations before TDL, if they are stuck on more, then Sabres have to trade him. Why Adams agreed to a full NMC on a 1 yr deal is assine, or inexperienced thinking...it saves Hall what 2 months or so of living elsewhere and screws the Sabres completely.

I fear they are going down the same path as with Skinner.
So glad we get to see Hall at his worst so it's no surprise.

Cozens was centering Hall and Reinhart at practice with Staal between Skinner and Olofsson.

Hahahaha just kidding, Lazar is 1C of course and Skinner is on the third line

Cozens was centering Hall and Reinhart at practice with Staal between Skinner and Olofsson.

Hahahaha just kidding, Lazar is 1C of course and Skinner is on the third line
- jcragcrumple

Well when your coach uses and studies the book "Hockey For Dummies" you get what you get.

The fan boy was enthralled with Lindy and that longest tenured duo because of the past success. The business man, should have hired an outside consultant just to get another set of eyes on what was happening.

And then the fan boy hires a past player who held a president title for exactly 6 weeks and abruptly quit. They allow him to hire a gm, heads are promptly butted, peepees are promptly whacked.... the president quits and tmgm smokes, drinks and tanks his way to Jack. Because putting all the eggs in lotto balls made sense at the time. And didn’t the nhl change the percentage of those balls that year?!?

And now we rinse and repeat with the same unproven, unsuccessful crap in upper management and it just filters down.

I do politely disagree, this is 100% pegs fault for leaning so hard into his fandom and not letting any rash business acumen in.
- Gr8daygo

I like this, disagree respectfully, but I understand your thinking.

Probably should have gotten outside eyes, but he had his own cronies helping - ted black in particular.

Lala could go either way. He did the same thing with the islanders, and that was pegula's only " ugly divorce ".

One guy thought he was waving to fans , the other thought he was actually involved with trades.

The tank really f'ed the Sabres. That's on pegs...

I know UFAs control quite a bit in the negotiation process, but at a) the age the become UFAs, coupled with b) the long length of contract term for most; makes me want very little to do with the FA market for high-end guys.

Hall is a case in point, just like Skinner was. I'd be comfortable paying a decent amount for a shorter 4 or 5 year term, and certainly would not extend full NMC's.

4 x $8 w/ modified-NTC as 10 Team no trade List would be the preferred target. Begin negotiations before TDL, if they are stuck on more, then Sabres have to trade him. Why Adams agreed to a full NMC on a 1 yr deal is assine, or inexperienced thinking...it saves Hall what 2 months or so of living elsewhere and screws the Sabres completely.

I fear they are going down the same path as with Skinner.
So glad we get to see Hall at his worst so it's no surprise.
- IonSabres

I hear ya
And we could possibly get away with that if we were a better team (like say Tampa)
But we are still in the position where we’ve gotta offer big $$$ and long term if we want any chance to sign guys like Hall & Skinner

Tkachuk (both of them) are some of the best players in the league. They aren’t taking that scrub for either of them
- Fattony1187

This is the post of the day.

So maybe okposo, skinner and a 7th for both tkachuk's?

I like this, disagree respectfully, but I understand your thinking.

Probably should have gotten outside eyes, but he had his own cronies helping - ted black in particular.

Lala could go either way. He did the same thing with the islanders, and that was pegula's only " ugly divorce ".

One guy thought he was waving to fans , the other thought he was actually involved with trades.

The tank really f'ed the Sabres. That's on pegs...
- Boss34

Should have let Darcy be the tank commander. Unfortunately the pressure from the fans to fire him after 15 years was very loud. In retrospect, Darcy was the right choice for the job

Ralph said he had no idea that Skinner's agent talked to Kevyn Adams

But he and Adams are in constant communication...

This is a mess
- Stripes77

yup


total sh!t show

This is the post of the day.

So maybe okposo, skinner and a 7th for both tkachuk's?
- Boss34

Maybe we can get Keith come out of retirement, too.

(frank) it, while we're at it, let's get old Walt Tkaczuk (no relation, but hey, might as well get em all) to pull the old wooden Koho out of moth balls and see what he's got left in the...tank.