The guy that is going to the HOF?
- ImThatGuy

He wasn't a superstar while he was here, he was a TE that we switched to tackle and groomed.

The guy that is going to the HOF?
- ImThatGuy

Peter was traded because he was not showing up to camp cause he was not happy with a contract HE signed

Risto is the only one that Shows emotion and takes care of business that's a buffalo guy.
- MGK

I would trade him also Generation talent my ass 👎👎👎
- MGK

Chuck Richarderson, is that you?

Peter was traded because he was not showing up to camp cause he was not happy with a contract HE signed
- ZiggyBuff

Yea, he was really good here.
He wanted to get paid like the elite talent he was. I remember it like yesterday. I was on a Buffalo Bills board that may or may not start with two. Fans were calling him lazy not worth it, all the guy cares about is money etc

- ImThatGuy

Risto aside, because he has his flaws, when is the last time a soft team won the Cup?

Yea, he was really good here.
He wanted to get paid like the elite talent he was. I remember it like yesterday. I was on a Buffalo Bills board that may or may not start with two. Fans were calling him lazy not worth it, all the guy cares about is money etc
- ImThatGuy

Ok so he wanted to get paid or traded. Usually if you sit out in the NFL you most likely are getting traded.

Stretch to say we ran him out of buffalo. Wanted a new contract 2 years after he signed a 5 year contract

No sir joined back in the Homer days 2nd account.
- Elite Josh Allen

Peter was traded because he was not showing up to camp cause he was not happy with a contract HE signed
- ZiggyBuff

Yeah held out 2yrs in a row, after the Bill's had given him a 5 yr 16mill contract extension.

Risto aside, because he has his flaws, when is the last time a soft team won the Cup?
- Powerslave

When was the last time that someone that couldn't score more goals than the other team won the cup? Score more goals and everything (synergy, toughness, happiness, etc) looks better. I have no idea if this team is tough or not but I do know that they can't score goals and therefor can't win.

The younger crowd isnt blue collar, but i bet many of the posters have parents/ grandparents that worked at Bethlehem steel ect. They Were still raised blue collar.

There's definitely blue collar in the fan's. although I agree buffalo "the city" is more tech now adays.

Check out the Bill's mafia, that's uniquely hard core.
Dare I say "bluecollarer" than other fans?
- Boss34

Buffalo a tech city hahahahahaha

It's lumpenproletariat. That's what it is.

Buffalo a tech city has the be hands down the funniest thing said on here in a long time.

If people really think Buffalo is a tech city, I just don't know anything anymore....

Buffalo a tech city :D

When was the last time that someone that couldn't score more goals than the other team won the cup? Score more goals and everything (synergy, toughness, happiness, etc) looks better. I have no idea if this team is tough or not but I do know that they can't score goals and therefor can't win.
- Slump Buster

I don't think anyone is debating that you need to score goals.

They're also a soft, fragile, gutless team. Did you actually watch the reaction to that kid challenging Dahlin the other afternoon?

Because there was none.

This team, scoring or not, would get steamrolled if they managed to make the playoffs.

Because they're NOT a team.

When was the last time that someone that couldn't score more goals than the other team won the cup? Score more goals and everything (synergy, toughness, happiness, etc) looks better. I have no idea if this team is tough or not but I do know that they can't score goals and therefor can't win.
- Slump Buster

Prolly the Kings. Relied on Quick and played real shut down style. Of course I meant couldn’t score goals, not less then the other teams as that’s not possible. But they were 29th in GF that year

Risto aside, because he has his flaws, when is the last time a soft team won the Cup?
- Powerslave

IM not debating that

What blows my mind is this

EIchel for Tom WIlson
Dahlin for What i assume is a tough rugged D-man

But keep Risto who I believe holds a record for having the worst +/- in the NHL.

F**** it i guess.

Trade all the good players for guys that will fight. The Sabres will be an even bigger joke.

I don't think anyone is debating that you need to score goals.

They're also a soft, fragile, gutless team. Did you actually watch the reaction to that kid challenging Dahlin the other afternoon?

Because there was none.

This team, scoring or not, would get steamrolled if they managed to make the playoffs.

Because they're NOT a team.
- Powerslave

This, but IMO this has nothing to do with toughness.

The team from the top down just doesnt care.

Risto aside, because he has his flaws, when is the last time a soft team won the Cup?
- Powerslave

pens back to back?


I mean they are not sabres soft but kind of soft

pens back to back?


I mean they are not sabres soft but kind of soft
- homiedclown

Blackhawks.

IM not debating that

What blows my mind is this

EIchel for Tom WIlson
Dahlin for What i assume is a tough rugged D-man

But keep Risto who I believe holds a record for having the worst +/- in the NHL.

F**** it i guess.

Trade all the good players for guys that will fight. The Sabres will be an even bigger joke.
- ImThatGuy

All I ask is that when the Pegulas make a horrible trade that will inevitably blow up in their face, they need to ask for the smallest prospect available on the other team. That way we can have the tall spinning idiot from the terrific ROR trade and a funny little 5'2" hopping idiot from the Eichel trade. We can call them laurel and hardy

When was the last time that someone that couldn't score more goals than the other team won the cup? Score more goals and everything (synergy, toughness, happiness, etc) looks better. I have no idea if this team is tough or not but I do know that they can't score goals and therefor can't win.
- Slump Buster

You win..... Just score, everything else will work out.

IM not debating that

What blows my mind is this

EIchel for Tom WIlson
Dahlin for What i assume is a tough rugged D-man

But keep Risto who I believe holds a record for having the worst +/- in the NHL.

F**** it i guess.

Trade all the good players for guys that will fight. The Sabres will be an even bigger joke.
- ImThatGuy

If someone actually suggested this SERIOUSLY, then don't bother even debating w them.

I think most of us can agree that you need a very skilled lineup w some grit (and if a couple players bring both, you've hit the jackpot) to win when it counts.

Like someone said earlier, players playing out of character helps, too.

Peter was traded because he was not showing up to camp cause he was not happy with a contract HE signed
- ZiggyBuff

Ruben Brown played 8 years for the bills

7 pro bowls


got another pro bowl with bears



I think he is the second most deserving bill for hall of fame, behind tasker

But keep Risto who I believe holds a record for having the worst +/- in the NHL.

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- ImThatGuy

https://www.statmuse.com/...e-worst-career-plus-minus

You win..... Just score, everything else will work out.
- hehateme

The point is that it's a better to want to improve by scoring more goals than it is to want to add the other stuff that isn't related to goal scoring.

Buffalo a tech city hahahahahaha

It's lumpenproletariat. That's what it is.
- 3rd GM's the charm

I consider myself to have a pretty extensive vocab, I had to look this up. Well played, but frank off....