Probably don't have Skinner if we still had ROR
- Buff36

Even better

Rangers fans are unreal

Imagine the Sabres were trying to trade for MacKinnon or Brayden Point and we were like "Better not include Ryan Johnson, he's a non-starter"

Rangers fans are unreal

Imagine the Sabres were trying to trade for MacKinnon or Brayden Point and we were like "Better not include Ryan Johnson, he's a non-starter"
- sbroads24

I've been saying that for two weeks. I think they get it from some of the national writers who are equally delusional. "Start with Zibinajead and add in a spare part or two". Um, no.

He said what they all thought. It was an overreaction to trade him and it ended up being a foolish trade.
- Slump Buster

He wanted to be traded.

It's amazing we are still talking about him.

Do you know what fan base never talks about him? The Avalanche. The other team that traded him for pretty much nothing.

He said what they all thought. It was an overreaction to trade him and it ended up being a foolish trade.
- Slump Buster

He wanted out. I didn't say they should of or it was the right choice. He didn't want to be here. Like a lot of players in the last 10 years.

He wanted to be traded.

It's amazing we are still talking about him.

Do you know what fan base never talks about him? The Avalanche. The other team that traded him for pretty much nothing.
- sbroads24

Preach.

Even better
- Fattony1187

Could be, but tell me who is playing Wing with ROR, I mean we have so many top notch wingers.

Do you think the Sabres have tried to build around their #1 player? Asking for a friend.
- hehateme

I think that MANY Sabres fans are calling for Jack to be traded & to give up on building around

How long did it take the Caps to win a Cup w OV?
How long for Tampa with Stamkos?

Not every story is like PIT with Sid & Malkin

Ok, dipsh!t but they probably don't trade for Skinner because with ROR salary still on the books, they probably don't have the cap space. BOOM I am done with you Asswipe.
- Buff36

What in the good god are you talking about? I spent a year and a half defending ROR leading up to the trade from the same arguments that will see Eichel win a cup elsewhere
- jcragcrumple

Honest question: Do you really believe he can here at this point?

I don't.

Long Island Iced Tea
- ImThatGuy

That’s Wetbandit, not me

Removing the best pieces of a core and leaving bad, expensive players is the best way to keep doing this year after year. Blaming Eichel or Reinhart gives the fans a nice scapegoat but completely ignores the dozens of factors that led us to where we are. One of those factors being trading objectively good players after killing their will to live. Following this model, we will do this to Cozens in 5 years when all the pieces around him sucks because we traded our best players for a hill of beans


And if anyone thinks the Pegulas can win an Eichel trade, I have a wonderful parcel of magic beans for sale in Lockport
- jcragcrumple

And this is why we need a Gillis type. A Gillis could navigate these waters. A Gillis has been there done that. A Gillis has articles and interviews about what he’s learned. How he will do it differently.
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GILLIS!

He wanted out. I didn't say they should of or it was the right choice. He didn't want to be here. Like a lot of players in the last 10 years.
- DirtyDan

Sure, he probably wanted out. Maybe Jack does to. That doesn't mean you trade him.

- 3rd GM's the charm

Sure

Honest question: Do you really believe he can here at this point?

I don't.
- 3rd GM's the charm

He's 24... It took Ovechkin his whole career almost.

It can be done. But it is on the owners at this point. Will they put someone in place that has any idea how to put together a team with a competent coach. Doesn't look like it.

Fun thought for the day:

Imagine if we never traded ROR and we had him and Skinner on a line together? This team would be cruising to it's 3rd straight playoff birth.

Instead a guy played hockey near Eichel and his butthole started hurting and now he might be pouty boo-boo- man the rest of the season.

We really did lose the McEichel draft.

Lucky for Matthews he didn't end up here or we would have ruined him, too.
- 3rd GM's the charm

And he was made the captain instead of Jack...

This is getting fun

Sure, he probably wanted out. Maybe Jack does to. That doesn't mean you trade him.
- Slump Buster

Well they did. Get over it. I am

Lets worry about these incompetent owners with their incompetent staff of plebs.

He's 24... It took Ovechkin his whole career almost.

It can be done. But it is on the owners at this point. Will they put someone in place that has any idea how to put together a team with a competent coach. Doesn't look like it.
- DirtyDan

That's it right there, put a decent coach in here and see what you actually have, not a coach that is teaching soccer out there.

Well they did. Get over it. I am

Lets worry about these incompetent owners with their incompetent staff of plebs.
- DirtyDan

Just making conversation

Could be, but tell me who is playing Wing with ROR, I mean we have so many top notch wingers.
- Buff36

Um.... GirGEnSoNS

Similar goal output over their last 100 games.
Skimmer has a handful more goals.

1- again, that’s what YOU are inferring
None of us KNOW how he actually felt

2- again, missing the point
- jdfitz77

By virtue of your argument, none of know, he could have been asking out of Buffalo and you are also missing the point.

This board is all about conjecture.

Sit Eichel until he is completely healthy - going nowhere this year.
Evaluate the team after the season - going nowhere this year.
Trade Hall at the deadline - don't retain salary and get what you can.
Bring up every young gun (And UPL) and let's see what they have.
Make Okposo sit - he is going nowhere for the rest of his contract.
First PP and more minutes for Skinner - maybe he goes somewhere.
Second PP for Mittelstadt and get him more minutes.

Insanity is repeating the same mistakes and expecting different results, therefore, upper management has to check the ego and get out of the way. Redo it and get "a Brendan Shanahan" to run the show.

This is O'reilly's THIRD season not in Buffalo. SHUT THE FRANK UP ALREADY. He female dogged more than Eichel does.

Well St. Louis is a little bit different then us, he was a finishing piece, they didn't have to build around him.
- Buff36

Regardless....
his age wasn’t too old for us to build around
And he wasn’t the reason we were bad
Just like Jack isn’t the reason we are bad now

This isn’t that hard to understand
We want to have good players on our team
Trading them away for scraps is dumb

Ok, but they probably don't trade for Skinner because with ROR salary still on the books, they probably don't have the cap space..
- Buff36

It would’ve taken additional moves,
but it could’ve been done