More tone def cluelessness from our ownership savants. Let’s see what happens when 200 fans show up with buckets of bbq to wing at Ralph.
- Gr8daygo

Really don't get it, I know they are losing money, but that is partially on them. Just like the Bill's change the culture and everything else will take care of itself.

Really don't get it, I know they are losing money, but that is partially on them. Just like the Bill's change the culture and everything else will take care of itself.
- Buff36

At this point what’s a few million more in losses... or as I’ve stated before due to the seemingly hoodwinked nature of the pegula’s when it comes to Ralph, just send him upstairs.

Let’s him ride out his contract as the president. It takes it off kims plate and they can hire a real coach.

Kim. Adams. Ralph.

Or

Ralph. Adams. Almost anyone?!?

Ride it for a year and a half and go from there.

It’s so much better than Ralph burying these guys for the rest of the season.

At this point what’s a few million more in losses... or as I’ve stated before due to the seemingly hoodwinked nature of the pegula’s when it comes to Ralph, just send him upstairs.

Let’s him ride out his contract as the president. It takes it off kims plate and they can hire a real coach.

Kim. Adams. Ralph.

Or

Ralph. Adams. Almost anyone?!?

Ride it for a year and a half and go from there.

It’s so much better than Ralph burying these guys for the rest of the season.
- Gr8daygo

Making Ralph President means he probably has input over who the new coach is. I want no part of that.

Making Ralph President means he probably has input over who the new coach is. I want no part of that.
- buffalofan19

Valid. So back to he just has to go and the pegula’s won’t do it because of the short term losses and impact on the lifestyle. Ssssooo proper franked for a while longer.

At this point what’s a few million more in losses... or as I’ve stated before due to the seemingly hoodwinked nature of the pegula’s when it comes to Ralph, just send him upstairs.

Let’s him ride out his contract as the president. It takes it off kims plate and they can hire a real coach.

Kim. Adams. Ralph.

Or

Ralph. Adams. Almost anyone?!?

Ride it for a year and a half and go from there.

It’s so much better than Ralph burying these guys for the rest of the season.
- Gr8daygo

It really is embarrassing what they have done to there hockey team. You are supposed to learn from your mistakes, but they just keep letting the same thing slap them in the face and hide and do nothing about it.

It really is embarrassing what they have done to there hockey team. You are supposed to learn from your mistakes, but they just keep letting the same thing slap them in the face and hide and do nothing about it.
- Buff36

But but but. They threw $8 million at Hall. That puts them in cup contention right? RIGHT!

But but but. They threw $8 million at Hall. That puts them in cup contention right? RIGHT!
- Gr8daygo

Well what's old saying Sh!t rolls down hill, well the Pegula's have found a way to turn it into a avalanche.

It really is embarrassing what they have done to there hockey team. You are supposed to learn from your mistakes, but they just keep letting the same thing slap them in the face and hide and do nothing about it.
- Buff36

Heard a podcast with John Shannon, Darren Millard and Mike Harrington last night, and they basically called the Pegula's arrogant for their refusal to change the structure of their hockey dept, and basically called it bullish!t that they're leaving GMKA out to dry (no POHO or asst. GM's), and God help us if Adams has to trade Jack over the summer (Harrington also said he wouldn't be surprised if they shut Jack down soon).

Heard a podcast with John Shannon, Darren Millard and Mike Harrington last night, and they basically called the Pegula's arrogant for their refusal to change the structure of their hockey dept, and basically called it bullish!t that they're leaving GMKA out to dry (no POHO or asst. GM's), and God help us if Adams has to trade Jack over the summer (Harrington also said he wouldn't be surprised if they shut Jack down soon).
- Powerslave

They should put jack on the yacht for the rest of the season and leave him alone. Zero reason for him to play right now.

I just don’t get how they can own two teams, see how having the right people in place works. And continue to let the Sabres be an unmitigated cluster frank. They never even attempt to put experienced (in the roll), successful, hockey people up top.

I just don’t get it.

If there was ever a time to blow this team up and start from scratch, it’s now. Top to bottom. Every player, taxi/AHL that has not panned out goes too.
We may actually get a little something for them with teams desperate to fill their taxi for a deep playoff run.

I’m still on the fence about keep/Trade Eichel, but let’s say keep for now.
Here is what I would keep as our core and build around.

Eichel, Dahlin, Cozens, McCabe, Risto, Olofsson

Fire sale on the rest.

-Sam can probably get us a good return
-Okposo needs to go the Moulson route
-All UFA should get a return with the nature of things this year
-Every coach, scout needs to go
-A real, and I mean real Coach and GM are needed to finally fix this decade long mess

The only way we are going to get any of this done is by sending a message to the other players and GM’s by firing Krueger now.
Then GMKA next

If there was ever a time to blow this team up and start from scratch, it’s now. Top to bottom. Every player, taxi/AHL that has not panned out goes too.
We may actually get a little something for them with teams desperate to fill their taxi for a deep playoff run.

I’m still on the fence about keep/Trade Eichel, but let’s say keep for now.
Here is what I would keep as our core and build around.

Eichel, Dahlin, Cozens, McCabe, Risto, Olofsson

Fire sale on the rest.

-Sam can probably get us a good return
-Okposo needs to go the Moulson route
-All UFA should get a return with the nature of things this year
-Every coach, scout needs to go
-A real, and I mean real Coach and GM are needed to finally fix this decade long mess

The only way we are going to get any of this done is by sending a message to the other players and GM’s by firing Krueger now.
Then GMKA next
- lulags

We are obviously stuck with Skinner so he is part of our core

Heard a podcast with John Shannon, Darren Millard and Mike Harrington last night, and they basically called the Pegula's arrogant for their refusal to change the structure of their hockey dept, and basically called it bullish!t that they're leaving GMKA out to dry (no POHO or asst. GM's), and God help us if Adams has to trade Jack over the summer (Harrington also said he wouldn't be surprised if they shut Jack down soon).
- Powerslave

Wouldn't surprise me if Jack shuts if down. And the longer this crap goes on the Pegulas will be hearing more and more of the same stuff from every pundit. I mean learn from your football team, instead of putting spam on the table, go with the Prime Rib

https://www.buffalobills....-attractive-destination-i
Terry should have this stapled to his forehead so he can have reminder of what bringing in the right management can do for you team.

Wouldn't surprise me if Jack shuts if down. And the longer this crap goes on the Pegulas will be hearing more and more of the same stuff from every pundit. I mean learn from your football team, instead of putting spam on the table, go with the Prime Rib
- Buff36

To be fair, they lucked into the prime rib. They did the same nonsense with the football team (hired coach first, no formal structure) and it worked out. They haven't had the same luck on the hockey side.

How many women does serial rapist Cuomo need to come forward before he resigns?]

Don't forget Fauci was praising this guy and liberals gave him an award for leadership

Sometimes its like living in bizarro world.

How many women does serial rapist Cuomo need to come forward before he resigns?]

Don't forget Fauci was praising this guy and liberals gave him an award for leadership

Sometimes its like living in bizarro world.
- sabresfan69

I am not a liberal or a democrat but I don't see what one has to do with the other. It must get exhausting to try to see everything through tribal lenses.

Heard a podcast with John Shannon, Darren Millard and Mike Harrington last night, and they basically called the Pegula's arrogant for their refusal to change the structure of their hockey dept, and basically called it bullish!t that they're leaving GMKA out to dry (no POHO or asst. GM's), and God help us if Adams has to trade Jack over the summer (Harrington also said he wouldn't be surprised if they shut Jack down soon).
- Powerslave

Before any major changes are made maybe find out what the actual root problem is and what has been consistently an issue over many years of failures. Is it the owners, GM´s, coaching staffs, scouting staffs, core players, all players or combinations of issues that are the root.
When there is no consistency in an organization over a number of years and failures at every level it’s hard not to point the finger at the overall leader. Sorry Kim but you’re fired.

How many women does serial rapist Cuomo need to come forward before he resigns?]

Don't forget Fauci was praising this guy and liberals gave him an award for leadership

Sometimes its like living in bizarro world.
- sabresfan69

I think you posted this to the wrong message board

I think you posted this to the wrong message board
- Powerslave

Let’s not go down this rabbit hole again. Sabres related bashing only.

How about Patrick Roy for coach...

Before any major changes are made maybe find out what the actual root problem is and what has been consistently an issue over many years of failures. Is it the owners, GM´s, coaching staffs, scouting staffs, core players, all players or combinations of issues that are the root.
When there is no consistency in an organization over a number of years and failures at every level it’s hard not to point the finger at the overall leader. Sorry Kim but you’re fired.
- Camel

Good Post Camel

Let’s not go down this rabbit hole again. Sabres related bashing only.

How about Patrick Roy for coach...
- Gr8daygo

Exactly.

Where is he right now?

Let’s not go down this rabbit hole again. Sabres related bashing only.

How about Patrick Roy for coach...
- Gr8daygo

https://images.app.goo.gl/roVoQLTfw2kzQS4o9

Before any major changes are made maybe find out what the actual root problem is and what has been consistently an issue over many years of failures. Is it the owners, GM´s, coaching staffs, scouting staffs, core players, all players or combinations of issues that are the root.
When there is no consistency in an organization over a number of years and failures at every level it’s hard not to point the finger at the overall leader. Sorry Kim but you’re fired.
- Camel

Scouting, pro and amateur has been very bad.
We haven’t had a real coach since Ruff. GM’s have been a mixed bag. Staff, mixed bag. It’s such a mess I fear the only way to attract any of the right players, coaches, staff ect is to get a real GM and coach. Sounds easy enough, but we all know the major roadblock on this is the Pegulas

Yes.

He used to pay for a men’s beer league hockey team. He was the goalie.

All the players were high level. He was franking awful. But he paid for everything, so the players put up with it.

He had custom pads with his name on them.

He’s a legend in the beer industry - for all the wrong reasons. Beer guys love telling stories about how everything he did was wrong.
- Atomic Wedgie

Ya I remember reading about his money troubles over the years. He also had the apple juice brand and was it Steelback beer? And then the one commercial I remember was the one with that player. Can’t remember his name. He was an Italian guy with a five o’clock shadow who was a pretty good young player and I think he had the same injury as Derek Roy. He was in a commercial with frank. I even think he played for the tank era Sabres at one point. Can’t remember the guys name. Could have started with Michael.

Exactly.

Where is he right now?
- Powerslave

Probably strangling his wife or something. No thanks