but
but
but


I mean people are acting like we won 3 cups with jack

or 3 playoff series

or had 3 winning records



or 1 winning record




or
- homiedclown

I honestly hope they trade Jack and he wins a cup somewhere else.

That's a very good point 👍

Similar to deshawn watson

Only certain teams have cap space and/ early picks.

The dolphins have the 3rd and tua. Cap space too.
- Boss34

this summer we can trade him to any team


next summer we cant



hence the topic of the day

but
but
but


I mean people are acting like we won 3 cups with jack

or 3 playoff series

or had 3 winning records



or 1 winning record




or
- homiedclown

Nobody is say trade him, but you could get a franchise altering deal, be stupid not to listen.

I honestly hope they trade Jack and he wins a cup somewhere else.
- Pegullaville

I hope, if we trade him


we win a cup someday and the return is a big part of it



this team is no better off then 6 years ago when we drafted him

Nobody is say trade him, but you could get a franchise altering deal, be stupid not to listen.
- Buff36

yup


not sure why people can't wrap their heads around this

If you even thought of doing it, you do it in the offseason and get as many teams as you can involved. I would want Anaheim in there to, more teams the better.
- Buff36

Good points.

Especially if eichel is out for the year.

You look at the islanders for a hopeful blueprint.

Traveres leaving via ufa

Eichel traded
New coach like trotz
Get 1 top guy already picked and 19/20

I honestly hope they trade Jack and he wins a cup somewhere else.
- Pegullaville

Hate to do it, but what if that trade got you 4 pieces that actually made your team better.

I honestly hope they trade Jack and he wins a cup somewhere else.
- Pegullaville

I've felt that way about many players over the years

Dom
Brad may
Don beebe
Ror (kinda)
Even bogo to some degree...

Many more.

Jack's not on that list. You described him well earlier in your post.

Hate to do it, but what if that trade got you 4 pieces that actually made your team better.
- Buff36

none of the sabres brass expected anything like this to happen


they thought playoffs was almost a lock and if things went their way, competing for a cup

yup


taking offers until such date
- homiedclown

Unless you add an extra something big! Force me to say yes!

I hope, if we trade him


we win a cup someday and the return is a big part of it



this team is no better off then 6 years ago when we drafted him
- homiedclown

It’s Jack’s fault we took Sam over Leon ?

It’s his fault that the organization had a hard on for Risto and didn’t trade him for Hall in 2015 or Ehlers in 2018 ?

Jack forced Murray to take Nylander over Sergachev/Chychryn/McAvoy ?

Jack’s fault that the coaches blow and that Dahlin hasn’t reached his potential ?

Jack’s fault that Cozens the ideal 2C is less than 20 games into his career and they haven’t found a replacement for ROR since they traded him ?

Jack is a finalist for the Hart last year and maybe even wins it if Ullmark played like this last year.

none of the sabres brass expected anything like this to happen


they thought playoffs was almost a lock and if things went their way, competing for a cup
- homiedclown

So does the “brass” see that Ralph is the problem? Or is Ralph the “brass” and we are hosed.

I've felt that way about many players over the years

Dom
Brad may
Don beebe
Ror (kinda)
Even bogo to some degree...

Many more.

Jack's not on that list. You described him well earlier in your post.
- Boss34

he reminds me a lot of former bills rb greg bell

bell played on some bad bills teams but he got you the 60 plus yards a game
got you that 4.1 yards per carry when you were the only offense

then bell goes to the rams and 1200 yards one year
1100 and change the next

and 31 rushing td's over those 2 years and 80 yards a game in his 4 playoff games

Jack is a finalist for the Hart last year and maybe even wins it if Ullmark played like this last year.
- Pegullaville

jack didn't have the number leon, nate, mcdavid, pastrnak or panarin had


such a homer post



he was 10th in scoring

leon had 32 more points in a shortened season

Good points.

Especially if eichel is out for the year.

You look at the islanders for a hopeful blueprint.

Traveres leaving via ufa

Eichel traded
New coach like trotz
Get 1 top guy already picked and 19/20
- Boss34

Calgary has some nice pieces to. I don't know how many pages back, but there was a trade suggestion made by a Calgary blogger that probably would make me think hard about it
Calgary: Eichel
Buffalo: Monahan Anderson Ruzicka Pelletier 1st and a 2nd.
Not saying I would do it, but those are some decent pieces

So does the “brass” see that Ralph is the problem? Or is Ralph the “brass” and we are hosed.
- Gr8daygo

they literally as a group have no answers from what I was told

Unless you add an extra something big! Force me to say yes!
- Gr8daygo

yup


get the best offer from those 30 or so teams

and make them give you f'n putney on top

they literally as a group have no answers from what I was told
- homiedclown

Hahahahhaaha. Shocking. A waitress, rink manager and soccer executive don’t know how to fix a nhl team?

You think Duds is ready to tell Kim what she doesn’t know.... lol

jack didn't have the number leon, nate, mcdavid, pastrnak or panarin had


such a homer post



he was 10th in scoring

leon had 32 more points in a shortened season
- homiedclown

Leon played with McDavid for half that season.

Eichel played with Olofsson.

Context is important.

How many goals did the Sabres score last year that Eichel didn’t have a point on ? Maybe 30% of the goals ?

It’s like saying Deshaun Watson was the reason why the Texans sucked last year despite having the 32 ranked defence, 32 ranked rushing offence, and a bunch of #3 WR’s at best to throw the ball too yet still had a top 20 passing season of all time.

My god no wonder Buffaluck exists

Hahahahhaaha. Shocking. A waitress, rink manager and soccer executive don’t know how to fix a nhl team?

You think Duds is ready to tell Kim what she doesn’t know.... lol
- Gr8daygo

the gut was to go low this season on their payroll


getting hall changed their direction, but they had to plans to upgrade the rest of the roster

if you moved on from hutton and okposo during the offseason

and retained pilut


and got that starting goalie and had a decent head coach, we may be in a different position


instead we are leaning on sheahan, irwin and hutton and wonder why we are dead last

Leon played with McDavid for half that season.

Eichel played with Olofsson.

Context is important.

- Pegullaville

you literally said he could have won the hart last year if ullmark made a few more saves


again homer post


when guys get 30% more points then you, your not getting the hart

Good points.

Especially if eichel is out for the year.

You look at the islanders for a hopeful blueprint.

Traveres leaving via ufa

Eichel traded
New coach like trotz
Get 1 top guy already picked and 19/20
- Boss34

You're neglecting to mention one small, tiny very important aspect of the Islanders 'blueprint', and his name is Matthew Barzal.

He was already on the Islanders and coming off an 85 point rookie season when Tavares left for the Leafs.

The Sabres would have nothing resembling that already on the team, which means you'd have to bring that back in a trade. Not somebody who might be that player someday. Somebody who already is that player.

Do you really trust Sabres management to make a deal that would bring back that kind of player in a quality return needed for Eichel?

Obviously, we're going to lose 5-2 tonight, but I really just hope to see someone beat the living crap out of ZAR and Ruhwedel for the hits the other night. I want someone to smash their faces into a bloody pulp. That's all. I'm not asking for much. Lets see if it happens.

You're neglecting to mention one small, tiny very important aspect of the Islanders 'blueprint', and his name is Matthew Barzal.

He was already on the Islanders and coming off an 85 point rookie season when Tavares left for the Leafs.

The Sabres would have nothing resembling that already on the team, which means you'd have to bring that back in a trade. Not somebody who might be that player someday. Somebody who already is that player.

Do you really trust Sabres management to make a deal that would bring back that kind of player in a quality return needed for Eichel?
- kingcong39

And there you have it. This should end all arguments about trading our captain.

the gut was to go low this season on their payroll


getting hall changed their direction, but they had to plans to upgrade the rest of the roster

if you moved on from hutton and okposo during the offseason

and retained pilut


and got that starting goalie and had a decent head coach, we may be in a different position


instead we are leaning on sheahan, irwin and hutton and wonder why we are dead last
- homiedclown

At this point I’d just like a real head coach.

I’d love a new structure, starting with a president but I don’t think the Pegula lifestyle will allow that.

And probably won’t allow for a real coach either.

Maybe a few more 5-2 losses, barely any fans showing up and some chicken bones tossed on the ice will change their minds.