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VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 3 @ 5:22 PM ET
He wasn't the most talented player but the guy had a lot of heart. Many times called the best "pound-for-pound" fighter in the league. He certainly wasn't a heavy-weight and picked his spots but the team sorely misses a guy like him.


- Pacificgem


And yet some don't get that?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 3 @ 5:23 PM ET
Allvin could have done something about it, but instead of trading the player, he signed him long-term.

People will crap on Bo for being a poor leader, but at least he is putting points up and contributing in a positive way. to me he is leading by example..

- stefano76


Horvat 10 GP 10 Pts
Miller 10 GP 9 Pts


Sayros
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 3 @ 5:23 PM ET
Thanks Carol,


FA mentioned the Canucks had a culture issue when he hired Rutherford.

Bieksa also mentions "the culture and that’s what I was most proud of in my tenure with the Canucks"

This is nothing new, it's just nobody has been able to do anything about it. To me it starts with the leadership in the room or lack thereof.

- VanHockeyGuy


I mean, the while city has a culture issue when it comes to the canucks. It's a losing one ... for 50+ years.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 3 @ 5:29 PM ET
I mean, the while city has a culture issue when it comes to the canucks. It's a losing one ... for 50+ years.
- Sayros


They didn't always have a culture issue, they had a talent issue.

Now things have reversed.
Pacificgem
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 3 @ 5:31 PM ET
And yet some don't get that?
- VanHockeyGuy

People will complain we need a guy with balls and then turn around and curse Bieksa, who had them in spades, because he didn't fight anyone and everyone...they want it both ways. He was a good player for the Canucks!
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Nov 3 @ 5:38 PM ET
He wasn't the most talented player but the guy had a lot of heart. Many times called the best "pound-for-pound" fighter in the league. He certainly wasn't a heavy-weight and picked his spots but the team sorely misses a guy like him.


- Pacificgem


Dude, Rick Rypien was the best pound for pound fighter the league has ever seen. Bieksa was tough no doubt when he was engaged.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Nov 3 @ 5:41 PM ET
Islanders are apparently watching us closely atm.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 3 @ 5:43 PM ET
Islanders are apparently watching us closely atm.
- Retinalz


Someone has to.
Pacificgem
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 3 @ 5:46 PM ET
Dude, Rick Rypien was the best pound for pound fighter the league has ever seen. Bieksa was tough no doubt when he was engaged.
- 1970vintage

LOL….no disrespect to Ryper but not a chance! Tie Domi was 5’9” tall and fought everyone. Stan Jonathan was also extremely tough for a guy that was 5’8” tall in an era when the league was FULL of goons.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 3 @ 5:47 PM ET
Two days after Halloween and someone in my new neighbourhood already has their Christmas decorations up, some people.
- A_SteamingLombardi


Probably a Leafs fan.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 3 @ 5:51 PM ET
LOL….no disrespect to Ryper but not a chance! Tie Domi was 5’9” tall and fought everyone. Stan Jonathan was also extremely tough for a guy that was 5’8” tall in an era when the league was FULL of goons.
- Pacificgem


He wasn't best pound for pound of all time but he was in that minority class of fighters you mention.
Pacificgem
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 3 @ 5:55 PM ET
He wasn't best pound for pound of all time but he was in that minority class of fighters you mention.
- boonerbuck

Agree…he had amazing fighting skills for a guy his size.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Nov 3 @ 5:55 PM ET
He wasn't best pound for pound of all time but he was in that minority class of fighters you mention.
- boonerbuck


Bieksa is not in that class.
Pacificgem
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 3 @ 6:00 PM ET
Bieksa is not in that class.
- 1970vintage

Again, agree, if we’re talking about all-time history. Bieksa was tough for his size in his era, but not “all-time”. Mel Bridgman was also very tough and he was a 1st overall pick. Rick Tocchet, PJ Stock, Jordan Tootoo and Wendal Clark were also extremely tough for their size.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 3 @ 6:06 PM ET
Bieksa is not in that class.
- 1970vintage


Not even close... and a big part of his fighting success was surprising his opponent by lunging and closing the gap with first strike. I understand this very well as it was one of the reasons I laid out so many bigger and older guys when I was a teen. I used my extremely quick round house for that.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 3 @ 6:09 PM ET
Sutter when asked about the status of Tanev for tonights game. I don't think it is the coach's job to give info to the other team.
Pacificgem
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 3 @ 6:11 PM ET
Sutter when asked about the status of Tanev for tonights game. I don't think it is the coach's job to give info to the other team.
- VANTEL

The guys a quote machine.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 3 @ 6:12 PM ET
Again, agree, if we’re talking about all-time history. Bieksa was tough for his size in his era, but not “all-time”. Mel Bridgman was also very tough and he was a 1st overall pick. Rick Tocchet, PJ Stock, Jordan Tootoo and Wendal Clark were also extremely tough for their size.
- Pacificgem


Clarke was my favorite player in his prime. Amazing hockey player and few were tougher. Most memorable Clark fight was with Mcsorely. They more or less did a lap around the rink never letting up on the big blows the entire time...
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 3 @ 6:12 PM ET
Islanders are apparently watching us closely atm.
- Retinalz


Apparently they had some people at that last embarrassment against NJ?
Sayros
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 3 @ 6:13 PM ET
Sutter when asked about the status of Tanev for tonights game. I don't think it is the coach's job to give info to the other team.
- VANTEL


It's for the degenerate gamblers Daryl! Imagine if NHL was as strict as NFL for injuries.
theguvna
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 10.24.2019

Nov 3 @ 6:13 PM ET
Thank you Carol
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Nov 3 @ 6:15 PM ET
Islanders are apparently watching us closely atm.
- Retinalz


You do atm? Gross.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Nov 3 @ 6:17 PM ET
Apparently they had some people at that last embarrassment against NJ?
- VanHockeyGuy

Apparently the last few games, been scouting since before Halloween
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 3 @ 6:20 PM ET
The guys a quote machine.
- Pacificgem


Yes indeed. I was very impressed with the special about him in preseason. I have lots of respect for him even though he can be goofy as hell sometimes.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 3 @ 6:21 PM ET
Well done Carol thank you.

Hopefully KB3 kicks the change room into gear.

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