I would have no problem watching them try hard, blow leads, not defend, not score … whatever … if the direction was clear.

If they hadnt signed miller and made some trades for draft picks, they could potentially be in not too bad a situation. If petey, huggy not on board with rebuild, great more fodder for trade.

Instead, they have a d-core built for tank city, but they have signed almost all their forwards … except of course their captain which sends even more mixed messages.
- Sayros

In the summer I wanted Canucks to sign JTM for 5 years or less. I don't like long term contracts for any player. I would like the NHL to save themselves and make max contracts 5 years but that would never happen.

In the summer I wanted Canucks to sign JTM for 5 years or less. I don't like long term contracts for any player. I would like the NHL to save themselves and make max contracts 5 years but that would never happen.
- VANTEL

They should be like the NFL and not have guaranteed contracts. You can terminate them at any time.

I would have no problem watching them try hard, blow leads, not defend, not score … whatever … if the direction was clear.

If they hadnt signed miller and made some trades for draft picks, they could potentially be in not too bad a situation. If petey, huggy not on board with rebuild, great more fodder for trade.

Instead, they have a d-core built for tank city, but they have signed almost all their forwards … except of course their captain which sends even more mixed messages.
- Sayros

Good post.

They should be like the NFL and not have guaranteed contracts. You can terminate them at any time.
- Pacificgem

No you can not. Look it up. Gone are the days when contracts were strictly controlled by the teams.

No you can not. Look it up. Gone are the days when contracts were strictly controlled by the teams.
- bloatedmosquito

Unless they go full Evander Kane on them.

No one cares. You are literally talking to yourself. Also, you are a fat (frank)ing traitor. (frank) your garbage Seahawks
- CanuckDon

Actually I do you arrogant little c*nt!

BC Lions looked pretty good today. Almost 40,000 in attendance, nice to see.
- Reubenkincade

Way better bang for your buck following the Lions

No you can not. Look it up. Gone are the days when contracts were strictly controlled by the teams.
- bloatedmosquito

That's NFL poop.

Looks like Barry Sanders out there wow!!


- LordHumungous

No you can not. Look it up. Gone are the days when contracts were strictly controlled by the teams.
- bloatedmosquito

NFL? Yes they can terminate and get out of most contracts. Even “guaranteed “ contracts they can terminate and get out of most of it.

NFL? Yes they can terminate and get out of most contracts. Even “guaranteed “ contracts they can terminate and get out of most of it.
- TurdFergeson

So many variables. Guaranteed for what? It's always a dollar amount

No you can not. Look it up. Gone are the days when contracts were strictly controlled by the teams.
- bloatedmosquito

Youre right, it’s not like the old days. However. It really depends on how much money is guaranteed in each specific NFL contract. Something you don’t see in the NHL. I don’t know what percentage of NFL contracts are “fully guaranteed” these days, but not all of them are 100%.

It’d be nice if you sign a guy to an eight year NHL contract if the money in years 6-7-8 wasn’t fully guaranteed. You could release them.


“Russell Wilson agreed to terms on a five-year extension with the Denver Broncos through the 2028 season, the team announced Thursday. Wilson's new deal is worth $245 million and includes $165 million guaranteed, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported, per sources.”

They should be like the NFL and not have guaranteed contracts. You can terminate them at any time.
- Pacificgem

Way back when the big fight was about the salary cap, I also wondered how the NHLPA would feel if the offer instead was no cap, but no guaranteed contracts.

No you can not. Look it up. Gone are the days when contracts were strictly controlled by the teams.
- bloatedmosquito

Hey Bloatsie, I do think there have been changes in that direction, but I think there is still allowances for terminating contracts.

Youre right, it’s not like the old days. However. It really depends on how much money is guaranteed in each specific NFL contract. Something you don’t see in the NHL. I don’t know what percentage of NFL contracts are “fully guaranteed” these days, but not all of them are 100%.

It’d be nice if you sign a guy to an eight year NHL contract if the money in years 6-7-8 wasn’t fully guaranteed. You could release them.


“Russell Wilson agreed to terms on a five-year extension with the Denver Broncos through the 2028 season, the team announced Thursday. Wilson's new deal is worth $245 million and includes $165 million guaranteed, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported, per sources.”
- Pacificgem

Yea but they can get out of most of that “gauranteed “ money if they want. If he’s not playing well they can terminate him and the guaranteed money is split between the five seasons. They wouldn’t have to pay him all of it if they terminated it.

Yea but they can get out of most of that “gauranteed “ money if they want. If he’s not playing well they can terminate him and the guaranteed money is split between the five seasons. They wouldn’t have to pay him all of it if they terminated it.
- TurdFergeson

Just read this…


“Contract Structure

There are two important concerns that must be considered when looking at an NFL contract.

First, almost none of an NFL contract is actually binding to the team. A player is not guaranteed the money he is promised when signing the deal. Only the money for the season being played is guaranteed.

The only part that the franchise is always on the hook for is the signing bonus. Thus, contract negotiations are often put on hold simply on the basis that a signing bonus be increased for the peace of mind of the player.

The rest of the contract is completely subject to player performance and injury avoidance.

Take, for example, the contract signed by Tennessee Titans running back Chris Johnson. Johnson inked a controversial four-year extension, averaging $13.4 million to go with a $10 million signing bonus.

Pro Football Talk breaks down the incentives required for Johnson to receive full payment for each year. Things such as rushing yardage and workout attendance dictate whether he gets full compensation.

Simply put, if Johnson were to suffer a career-ending injury or get cut, he would only receive his $10 million bonus along with his 2012 salary of $8 million. That's $18 million of a projected six-year, $56 million deal. Or 18 percent.

In the NBA, almost all money is guaranteed. Grant Hill received a seven-year, $93 million contract from the Orlando Magic. Despite playing only 47 games in his first four years of the deal, Hill eventually saw all of the cash.

In America's most popular sport, contracts yield far less than one would expect from these lucrative signings.“

Way back when the big fight was about the salary cap, I also wondered how the NHLPA would feel if the offer instead was no cap, but no guaranteed contracts.
- Aetherial

The salary cap has ruined the league!

Way back when the big fight was about the salary cap, I also wondered how the NHLPA would feel if the offer instead was no cap, but no guaranteed contracts.
- Aetherial

It's really an unfair advantage to the top 5-10 markets.

It's really an unfair advantage to the top 5-10 markets.
- golfingsince

They should have a luxury tax to where they can go a certain amount above the cap.

It's really an unfair advantage to the top 5-10 markets.
- golfingsince

Is it fair that the teams/players have to continually subsidize several teams, such as Coyotes, Devils etc.
There are certain teams that can not get fans out in attendance that drives the cap down, which doesn't allow some teams to even re-sign players, or they trade good players for future considerations, as a direct/indirect result of these teams not being able to be self-sufficient.

They should have a luxury tax to where they can go a certain amount above the cap.
- Pacificgem

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- Reubenkincade

It's embarrassing.

Hey Bloatsie, I do think there have been changes in that direction, but I think there is still allowances for terminating contracts.
- Aetherial

100% agree. I was just disputing the comment “You can terminate them at any time”. You can not terminate at any time. For example, you can’t terminate while you’re injured. All bonuses must be paid.

Rookies who are drafted, from the first overall to last overall, can only have four year contracts: no more, no less. A fifth year can be negotiated at the end of the third season. If a player does get a new fifth-year extension, that season’s salary is fully guaranteed. At the point that the fifth-year option is picked up, his fourth-year salary becomes guaranteed as well.

There’s also this thing called the “Proven Performance Escalator” that dictates how much a player can be offered on an extension. You perform you get paid more.

My point being NFL contracts are now more complicated than people know. The good old days of complete team control are long gone.

It's embarrassing.
- Marwood

Yup.

They should be like the NFL and not have guaranteed contracts. You can terminate them at any time.
- Pacificgem