1970vintage
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You must be confusing him with another player. You got it backwards. He actually came in with some top 5 defensive numbers in the league. He was considered a shut down forward. Also contradicting your post about him was he didnt produce offense... instead of producing up and down the line up like you claim.
https://canucksarmy.com/n...ons-game-how-help-canucks
Defensive ace
Richardinson was one of the best forwards in the league at suppressing scoring chances against last season, which helped him post some impressive defensive numbers. In fact, his 1.62 expected goals against per 60 was the third-lowest number amongst all forwards who played at least 500 minutes at five on five, placing him in the 99th percentile last year. His 1.87 actual goals against per 60 wasn’t too shabby either, as he was still ranked in the 87th percentile in this category.
Richardinson’s defensive prowess also allowed him to post some good possession numbers, as he had a 56% corsi and 57.61% expected goals percentage at five on five. His actual goals percentage was more disappointing at 47.62%, but that was caused by his poor offensive game, which will be touched on later.
Much of his shutdown ability comes from the quality of chances that he allows. As you can see in the graphs below (which show his isolated defensive impact), opposing teams have had a hard time generating scoring opportunities in front of the Stars’ net throughout Richardinson’s career. The blue spots indicate that fewer shots were taken from that area when compared with the league average, and as a result, Dallas has also conceded fewer expected goals per 60 than most teams, too.
- boonerbuck
I remember them (Benning) talking about how he did well when playing with offensive players (Benn, Seguin etc) and they were anticipating that he would continue (or it was hoped) to produce more offense. Perhaps this is the nature of the disappointment in his first season? If he truly was just a defensive ace, expecting more goals from him/line mates was misplaced expectation.
Anyway, it was stupid to pay to dump him given he only had two years remaining. |
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Nucker101
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I’m just joking but if you wanna go on a rant against me and angry post, fill your boots….son. - Pacificgem
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boonerbuck
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Agree with this too
That move was just weird to me. A defensive center who cant take faceoffs coming off of a career year where he played C/W next to Jamie Benn. - Nucker101
But everything else showed he was very tight defensively. You are agreeing with someone who just dismissed all that and claimed he was better known for producing offense up and down the line up. Completely backwards to his stats.
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I edited for you to make you happy - Nucker101
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Nucker101
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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I remember them (Benning) talking about how he did well when playing with offensive players (Benn, Seguin etc) and they were anticipating that he would continue (or it was hoped) to produce more offense. Perhaps this is the nature of the disappointment in his first season? If he truly was just a defensive ace, expecting more goals from him/line mates was misplaced expectation.
Anyway, it was stupid to pay to dump him given he only had two years remaining. - 1970vintage
JD is a pretty solid defensive forward, to me he's a winger who can fill in at center if need be, ditto with Jamie Benn which is why they split those duties on a line together.
He's also overpaid at $3M....at that money I'd want a guy with more offensive game but apparently he was playing injured in Vancouver and didn't feel comfortable in the locker room so maybe that effected his play here? |
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boonerbuck
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I remember them (Benning) talking about how he did well when playing with offensive players (Benn, Seguin etc) and they were anticipating that he would continue (or it was hoped) to produce more offense. Perhaps this is the nature of the disappointment in his first season? If he truly was just a defensive ace, expecting more goals from him/line mates was misplaced expectation.
Anyway, it was stupid to pay to dump him given he only had two years remaining. - 1970vintage
Totally agree...
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Nucker101
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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But everything else showed he was very tight defensively. You are agreeing with someone who just dismissed all that and claimed he was better known for producing offense up and down the line up. Completely backwards to his stats. - boonerbuck
Not gonna lie, I skimmed his post. The bolded is far from the truth to put it nicely |
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I’m always happy, I’ve been granted a good life! - Pacificgem
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1970vintage
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But everything else showed he was very tight defensively. You are agreeing with someone who just dismissed all that and claimed he was better known for producing offense up and down the line up. Completely backwards to his stats. - boonerbuck
I’m saying that is what Jim Benning said he was acquiring him as. That’s the narrative I remember when they traded for him. |
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Trade
Bo
Boeser
Miller
Myers
Pearson
Garland
Hoglander
Buy-out
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boonerbuck
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Location: Not Quesnel, BC Joined: 10.11.2005
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JD is a pretty solid defensive forward, to me he's a winger who can fill in at center if need be, ditto with Jamie Benn which is why they split those duties on a line together.
He's also overpaid at $3M....at that money I'd want a guy with more offensive game but apparently he was playing injured in Vancouver and didn't feel comfortable in the locker room so maybe that effected his play here? - Nucker101
Bruce recognized he came into camp a different player and was disappointed he was moved. He turns out to be right. Center spot now weaker, PK now worse, D!ckinson playing well for another team. Canucks bottom 6 way worse than last season...
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Pacificgem
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Location: Victoria, BC Joined: 07.01.2007
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Trade
Bo
Boeser
Miller
Myers
Pearson
Garland
Hoglander
Buy-out
OEL - A_SteamingLombardi
Senators are looking for dmen, Myers would look good in black. 2nd in 2024 and a 3rd in 2023. |
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boonerbuck
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Location: Not Quesnel, BC Joined: 10.11.2005
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I’m saying that is what Jim Benning said he was acquiring him as. That’s the narrative I remember when they traded for him. - 1970vintage
This was your response to my mention of of JD in the Rutherford post....
I’m not disagreeing…but. I’m not sold that Richardinson was a good defensive C before being acquired. He was a guy who could handle being moved up and down the lineup and still be productive but he was never a shutdown guy and he’s always been terrible on the dot.
I got both comments right about what you said regarding his D and O play....
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CanuckDon
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Trade
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🙏 you are missing Elias though |
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🙏 you are missing Elias though - CanuckDon
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- Pacificgem
It doesn’t sound like he will resign so what’s the point of hanging onto him? If he was signed for 5 plus years I’d be fine keeping him |
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“Podkolzin (facial injury) will not play tonight versus Sabres.”
Dan Murphy just tweeted this, he must’ve taken a beating, but it didn’t look that bad. |
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boonerbuck
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Location: Not Quesnel, BC Joined: 10.11.2005
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When you look at this management work on the Canucks bottom 6... it's a massacre.
Last season the line of Motte, Lammikko, Highmore were looking like one of the best if not best 4rth lines in the league. They were fast, they were physical, they scored often for limited ice time, they were clutch. D!ckinson we just covered.
The players they have brought in to replace are a dogs breakfast. Maybe not so much Mikheyev. But the salary saving on gutting the bottom 6 were spent on him and it hasn't translated to an improved PK like they hoped it would... no, in fact it's worse. How could it be worse than last season? Well it's now the most terrible in the entire league.
We can talk about this group going to rebuild and tanking and all that jazz but it was definitely not the direction they intended to go. It wasnt a wait and see either since the committed so much salary to players that were part of the core. That's not wait and see... that's a decision on this group and moving forward with it. |
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1970vintage
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This was your response to my mention of of JD in the Rutherford post....
I got both comments right about what you said regarding his D and O play.... - boonerbuck
Sorry, I wasn't clear. What I was trying to say was that the player fans (me) were being sold was a guy that had more offensive potential, and that was demonstrated by the time he got playing with Benn etc.
I haven’t read a CanucksArmy post in years so I must have missed the whole top of the league fancy stats stuff.
Anyway, what I’m suggesting now is that perhaps the disappointment with his play was that he was supposed to have untapped offense and didn’t. Kinda like Mikheyev now… |
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Nice try though...actually not really a nice try because if you recall, I was one of the first guys here who knew this teem was headed down this path, the Luca Sbisa contract day. While everyone kept saying "stop freaking out chicken little, lets wait and see"
- Nucker101
I will go further back. Can you imagine the chain reaction If Luongo didn't have a NTC . Bozak Kadri and two first round picks. Then they could have traded Kesler if he didn't have a NTC seeing they had Kadri.
Hamhuis Bieksa and Garrison with NTC
How about Hodgson for Kassian. Grabner and a first for Ballard. Aside from Horvat the cuoboards didn't exist.
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Pacificgem
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It doesn’t sound like he will resign so what’s the point of hanging onto him? If he was signed for 5 plus years I’d be fine keeping him - CanuckDon
Trade him and Hughes to Montreal. And it’s re-sign. |
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boonerbuck
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“Podkolzin (facial injury) will not play tonight versus Sabres.”
Dan Murphy just tweeted this, he must’ve taken a beating, but it didn’t look that bad. - Pacificgem
He hit his head on the ice when he went down... but ya, he got his clock cleaned.
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I will go further back. Can you imagine the chain reaction If Luongo didn't have a NTC . Bozak Kadri and two first round picks. Then they could have traded Kesler if he didn't have a NTC seeing they had Kadri.
Hamhuis Bieksa and Garrison with NTC
How about Hodgson for Kassian. Grabner and a first for Ballard. Aside from Horvat the cuoboards didn't exist. - VANTEL
I don’t think the Canucks organization knows what cupboards are. |
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boonerbuck
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Sorry, I wasn't clear. What I was trying to say was that the player fans (me) were being sold was a guy that had more offensive potential, and that was demonstrated by the time he got playing with Benn etc.
I haven’t read a CanucksArmy post in years so I must have missed the whole top of the league fancy stats stuff.
Anyway, what I’m suggesting now is that perhaps the disappointment with his play was that he was supposed to have untapped offense and didn’t. Kinda like Mikheyev now… - 1970vintage
Now that he's not playing with a broken hand... he's managing to put up some offense... go figure.
I really don't remember this big sell on D!ckinson's O game by Benning. I do remember him talking about his D game though. I'll look into it I guess... |
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I don’t think the Canucks organization knows what cupboards are. - Pacificgem
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