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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 22 @ 5:18 PM ET
They’re gonna hitch their wagon to EP40 and get rid of the fluff like Horvat and Miller. Which is the proper thing to do!
- Pacificgem


I don't think they are getting rid of Miller unless they do it this year. Once his NTC kicks in I don't see him saying yes to Arizona.

I could see the Canucks doing nothing like usual.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Nov 22 @ 5:19 PM ET
You said a couple Months ago which was incorrect. If he can’t recover from mono in 9 months he should quit
- CanuckDon

There's recovering, and then there's being able to add bulk/improve skills. I shouldn't need to explain why losing several months of development time around the time a guy turns 18 is detrimental to his game.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Nov 22 @ 5:19 PM ET
If you don't know why you're dumber than I thought
- NorthNuck

Explain your pov. Offer some insight? A useful opinion for once? Or just head down to your moms basement, throw on your Stevie griffin pj’s and play with your train set. Just stop wasting our time
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 22 @ 5:19 PM ET
Horvat was giving his farewell speech at practice today
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Nov 22 @ 5:20 PM ET
Are you saying the GM selected a kid who recently had mono, and the effects can last a long time, which hurts his development?
So, really, he is just another bad pick by another in the long line of bad picks by bad management.

- Reubenkincade

Yeah, I don't think he was the best pick where they took him at all.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Nov 22 @ 5:21 PM ET
There's recovering, and then there's being able to add bulk/improve skills. I shouldn't need to explain why losing several months of development time around the time a guy turns 18 is detrimental to his game.
- NorthNuck

He said he was fully recovered and training in the summer. He sucks because of his engagement level not his skill level from accounts I’ve read. Maybe he is just trending towards a bust. It happens
Sayros
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 22 @ 5:21 PM ET
They’re gonna hitch their wagon to EP40 and get rid of the fluff like Horvat and Miller. Which is the proper thing to do!
- Pacificgem


Petey has already stated he wants to play for a winner. If we go full fire sale, might as well trade him too or he will sulk. I think earlier that was his attempt at making sure they don't tank. Also reason for signing only 3 years vs. Hughes longer.

I agree with others that say trade / sell high. I like him. I really liked him out of the gate (like, like like haha). I was pretty sure he could come back into form. But I too am sick of seeing value skate out the door for nothing ala Markstrom, Tanev, Toffoli. Make an assessment based on the player & contract, not based on whether we can still squeek into playoffs by 2 points at the TDL.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Nov 22 @ 5:22 PM ET
Explain your pov. Offer some insight? A useful opinion for once? Or just head down to your moms basement, throw on your Stevie griffin pj’s and play with your train set. Just stop wasting our time
- CanuckDon



The mental image of you logging on to a website with your Trump avatar and then typing this out to a complete stranger is too much
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Nov 22 @ 5:22 PM ET
I don't think they are getting rid of Miller unless they do it this year. Once his NTC kicks in I don't see him saying yes to Arizona.

I could see the Canucks doing nothing like usual.

- VANTEL


This is the perfect opportunity for a team like Arizona, Columbus, Ottawa etc to trade for him. A place that nobody will sign a long term deal could get it done for not that much. It would probably piss him off to no end
Pacificgem
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 22 @ 5:24 PM ET
I don't think they are getting rid of Miller unless they do it this year. Once his NTC kicks in I don't see him saying yes to Arizona.

I could see the Canucks doing nothing like usual.

- VANTEL

Anything and everything is probably on the table, that said, it’s really hard to move a lot of cap money nowadays in the league with the salary cap and not much time off the clock this year with salaries.

Miller has value imo, he provides a bunch of offence. His usage is more of an issue than anything. Boudreau thinks he’s an all situations player, he’s not. But in BB defence, he doesn’t have a lot of options from the management group above him.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Nov 22 @ 5:24 PM ET
Horvat was giving his farewell speech at practice today
- manvanfan


Link?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 22 @ 5:25 PM ET
This is the perfect opportunity for a team like Arizona, Columbus, Ottawa etc to trade for him. A place that nobody will sign a long term deal could get it done for not that much. It would probably piss him off to no end
- 1970vintage


Exactly. I would think it needs to be this year where he doesn't have a say. Looks really good on management though. It would show they haven't got a clue, signing long-term saying he is our future then trading month later because they realize it was a big mistake.
Pacificgem
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 22 @ 5:26 PM ET
Petey has already stated he wants to play for a winner. If we go full fire sale, might as well trade him too or he will sulk. I think earlier that was his attempt at making sure they don't tank. Also reason for signing only 3 years vs. Hughes longer.

I agree with others that say trade / sell high. I like him. I really liked him out of the gate (like, like like haha). I was pretty sure he could come back into form. But I too am sick of seeing value skate out the door for nothing ala Markstrom, Tanev, Toffoli. Make an assessment based on the player & contract, not based on whether we can still squeek into playoffs by 2 points at the TDL.

- Sayros

Hey, if they can get a boatload for him from another team, then yeah, by all means, do it! I just don’t think they will. What did Chicago get for Debrincat?
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Nov 22 @ 5:27 PM ET
Link?
- Reubenkincade


https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Nov 22 @ 5:27 PM ET
Yeah, I don't think he was the best pick where they took him at all.
- NorthNuck


I won't argue he was BPA, at the time, but I am not a BPA guy. There were 2 big defensemen available and went shortly after. Unfortunately they weren't Swedish.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Nov 22 @ 5:27 PM ET
Petey has already stated he wants to play for a winner. If we go full fire sale, might as well trade him too or he will sulk. I think earlier that was his attempt at making sure they don't tank. Also reason for signing only 3 years vs. Hughes longer.

I agree with others that say trade / sell high. I like him. I really liked him out of the gate (like, like like haha). I was pretty sure he could come back into form. But I too am sick of seeing value skate out the door for nothing ala Markstrom, Tanev, Toffoli. Make an assessment based on the player & contract, not based on whether we can still squeek into playoffs by 2 points at the TDL.

- Sayros

Bravo 👏. Love sensible comments! He ain’t signing!
Pacificgem
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 22 @ 5:27 PM ET
Horvat was giving his farewell speech at practice today
- manvanfan

I saw that….
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Nov 22 @ 5:27 PM ET
Exactly. I would think it needs to be this year where he doesn't have a say. Looks really good on management though. It would show they haven't got a clue, signing long-term saying he is our future then trading month later because they realize it was a big mistake.
- VANTEL


The first step in healing is admitting you made a mistake.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Nov 22 @ 5:28 PM ET


The mental image of you logging on to a website with your Trump avatar and then typing this out to a complete stranger is too much

- NorthNuck

Should have been Stewie. Damn autocorrect
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Nov 22 @ 5:31 PM ET
I won't argue he was BPA, at the time, but I am not a BPA guy. There were 2 big defensemen available and went shortly after. Unfortunately they weren't Swedish.
- Reubenkincade

My preference would have been a trade, either move up a few spots or move down and pick up an extra 1st. There were multiple players available at 15 around the same caliber.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Nov 22 @ 5:32 PM ET
Should have been Stewie. Damn autocorrect
- CanuckDon

You're referencing a profile picture I got rid of 4 years ago man, maybe it's time to log off. You're complaining that I'm wasting your time while you suggest trading Pettersson
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 22 @ 5:40 PM ET
Exactly. I would think it needs to be this year where he doesn't have a say. Looks really good on management though. It would show they haven't got a clue, signing long-term saying he is our future then trading month later because they realize it was a big mistake.
- VANTEL


They can play it off like they wanted to sign and trade when they had difficulty moving his contract status. It gives them some ass covering to fall back on. Not everyone will buy it but who cares. Do what is needed or quit and retire and stop wasting everyone's time.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Nov 22 @ 5:41 PM ET
You're referencing a profile picture I got rid of 4 years ago man, maybe it's time to log off. You're complaining that I'm wasting your time while you suggest trading Pettersson
- NorthNuck

More sensical than walking him to unrestricted free agency or waiting until he demands a trade and other teams have the club by the sack. Asset Management Stewie
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 22 @ 5:41 PM ET
Anything and everything is probably on the table, that said, it’s really hard to move a lot of cap money nowadays in the league with the salary cap and not much time off the clock this year with salaries.

Miller has value imo, he provides a bunch of offence. His usage is more of an issue than anything. Boudreau thinks he’s an all situations player, he’s not. But in BB defence, he doesn’t have a lot of options from the management group above him.

- Pacificgem


I saw a Tweet from Frankie last night that he was excited about how the team was winning, and even though they lost he still gets a boner when they are scoring goals. I just don't see this guy shaking things up at all.

I might be wrong, but I think he is just happy to sell tickets, jerseys and beers. I think the first casualty could be JR quitting.

Anything as you say is possible, but the past history leaves me thinking very little will.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Nov 22 @ 5:46 PM ET
I saw that….
- Pacificgem


Link?
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