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Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Nov 23 @ 4:18 PM ET

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- dbot


Not sure you reading comprehension is up to par, I said he doesn't usually have anyone to pass to. He has played what 3 or 4 games with Miller?
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Nov 23 @ 4:19 PM ET
Well, he's got Nil's b*tch on his wing today! šŸ˜‚
- VanHockeyGuy


Can Hoglander even recieve a pass yet?
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Nov 23 @ 4:20 PM ET
No need to pass to another player when you can just pass to the back of the net
- NewYorkNuck


dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Nov 23 @ 4:20 PM ET
Not sure you reading comprehension is up to par, I said he doesn't usually have anyone to pass to. He has played what 3 or 4 games with Miller?
- Reubenkincade


More like half the season...all good tho.
Pacificgem
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 23 @ 4:26 PM ET
More like half the season...all good tho.

- dbot

Donā€™t worry about him, heā€™s got little-man-syndrome, heā€™s just angry at the world. Heā€™s like an angry little Chihuahua.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Nov 23 @ 4:27 PM ET
More like half the season...all good tho.

- dbot


They have played 18 or 19 games, so maybe 10 games, me bad.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Nov 23 @ 4:30 PM ET
Donā€™t worry about him, heā€™s got little-man-syndrome, heā€™s just angry at the world. Heā€™s like an angry little Chihuahua.
- Pacificgem


Don't you have some bookkeeping to do?
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Nov 23 @ 4:38 PM ET
More like half the season...all good tho.

- dbot

So, 9 games.
Pacificgem
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 23 @ 4:38 PM ET
Don't you have some bookkeeping to do?
- Reubenkincade

No but Iā€™m heading to Costco to fuel up, gas is $3.759 a gallon.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Nov 23 @ 4:38 PM ET
I'd look at the buyout then, next group of core players cant have a slow lazy expensive vet on the roster and in the locker room if you want to build a contending team from the ground up
- Nucker101

You've gotta think of where that group is playing, most will be AHL or Juniors or other leagues next season. Is it worth buying OEL out and not replacing him? or replacing with someone in FA and ultimately spending more to do so?
We buy him out next year and this is when it looks like for us

$146,667
$2,346,667
$4,766,667
$2,833,333
$2,126,667
$2,126,667
$2,126,667
$2,126,667

The year after looks like this:


$2,028,889
$4,448,889
$4,448,889
$1,808,889
$1,808,889
$1,808,889


There is a big difference IMO between the two years for buyout and buying out in 2024 is better short and long term for the club.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Nov 23 @ 4:39 PM ET
Don't you have some bookkeeping to do?
- Reubenkincade

Table 9 needs to be cleaned and re-set.
Pacificgem
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 23 @ 4:44 PM ET
So, 9 games.
- Marwood

Donā€™t listen to this nut-job either dbot, heā€™s an extreme drug addict who lost everything as a result. He and his wife, bless her soul, live in complete poverty on government assistance because it now.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: ā€œWho are we to think weā€™re anybody?ā€ - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 23 @ 4:46 PM ET
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Nov 23 @ 4:47 PM ET
You've gotta think of where that group is playing, most will be AHL or Juniors or other leagues next season. Is it worth buying OEL out and not replacing him? or replacing with someone in FA and ultimately spending more to do so?
We buy him out next year and this is when it looks like for us

$146,667
$2,346,667
$4,766,667
$2,833,333
$2,126,667
$2,126,667
$2,126,667
$2,126,667

The year after looks like this:


$2,028,889
$4,448,889
$4,448,889
$1,808,889
$1,808,889
$1,808,889


There is a big difference IMO between the two years for buyout and buying out in 2024 is better short and long term for the club.

- Retinalz


I agree with your principle, but why not wait until you have some replacements for him?
It is not like this team can be rebuilt in 2 or 3 years.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Nov 23 @ 4:48 PM ET
Table 9 needs to be cleaned and re-set.
- Marwood


manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 23 @ 4:50 PM ET
Tough break for Canada, they looked the better team for most of the game... just lacking so much finish and quality around the box. Was fun to watch, hopefully they can beat Croatia and make a challenge to move on
- NewYorkNuck

That's why unproven 20 year old kid cost teams 50M euro's to buy.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Nov 23 @ 4:51 PM ET
Donā€™t listen to this nut-job either dbot, heā€™s an extreme drug addict who lost everything as a result. He and his wife, bless her soul, live in complete poverty on government assistance because it now.
- Pacificgem

A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Nov 23 @ 5:18 PM ET
You've gotta think of where that group is playing, most will be AHL or Juniors or other leagues next season. Is it worth buying OEL out and not replacing him? or replacing with someone in FA and ultimately spending more to do so?
We buy him out next year and this is when it looks like for us

$146,667
$2,346,667
$4,766,667
$2,833,333
$2,126,667
$2,126,667
$2,126,667
$2,126,667

The year after looks like this:


$2,028,889
$4,448,889
$4,448,889
$1,808,889
$1,808,889
$1,808,889


There is a big difference IMO between the two years for buyout and buying out in 2024 is better short and long term for the club.

- Retinalz

Keep OEL he helps with the tank.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 23 @ 5:18 PM ET
I agree with your principle, but why not wait until you have some replacements for him?
It is not like this team can be rebuilt in 2 or 3 years.

- Reubenkincade


I don't agree with most of it. First of all, if ownership says no to a rebuild all of this hopeful posting is just a pass of time.

If Ownership did say yes, you would be getting an NHL ready top 3 pick plus a few other first round picks that could fill your prospect pool.

Despite what people here say trading of Bo Demko Hughes Miller or any of the big names will get you more picks players and prospects.

OEL should be bought out next year and replaced with an Entry Level player that was traded for or already in the system like Briesbois. Who cares if they pay an extra year of 2 mil cap eight years from now when the cap should be 100 mil.

Will this all be fixed in one year? Hell no,but cut away the heavy fat on the first swipe. It takes some workers 8 hours to do a day's work, but the good ones can do it in a lot less time. Same goes for good managers.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Nov 23 @ 5:59 PM ET
I don't agree with most of it. First of all, if ownership says no to a rebuild all of this hopeful posting is just a pass of time.

If Ownership did say yes, you would be getting an NHL ready top 3 pick plus a few other first round picks that could fill your prospect pool.

Despite what people here say trading of Bo Demko Hughes Miller or any of the big names will get you more picks players and prospects.

OEL should be bought out next year and replaced with an Entry Level player that was traded for or already in the system like Briesbois. Who cares if they pay an extra year of 2 mil cap eight years from now when the cap should be 100 mil.

Will this all be fixed in one year? Hell no,but cut away the heavy fat on the first swipe. It takes some workers 8 hours to do a day's work, but the good ones can do it in a lot less time. Same goes for good managers.

- VANTEL



Ya, I understood what you were trying to say, I am not Lefty.

You think Matvei Michkov is NHL ready? Even if he was, he has 3 more season under contract in the KHL.
Also, sometimes we think some of these kids are ready to jump right 8n and be good enough to play in the NHL, yet they struggle to perform, like Podkolzin, or they struggle to stay in the lineup of the AHL team, like Klimovich.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 23 @ 6:00 PM ET
Thatā€™s a tall order to do with 63 games remaining. I like your enthusiasm, keep it up!

- K-man25

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 23 @ 6:04 PM ET
how do I truly feel?

I'm done with this core, I want a hard reset and what I suggested is the way to achieve that.

- Nucker101

You sit Petey, Bo, Hughes and Demko down in a private meeting and make them sign a non-disclosure agreement so they can't speak publicly. Then you tell them we are tearing it down to the fabric for a 2-4 year solid rebuild. Maybe a solid 5 years. Ask them if they want to be a part of it and if so great if not move on and start from player 1.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 23 @ 6:07 PM ET
No but Iā€™m heading to Costco to fuel up, gas is $3.759 a gallon.
- Pacificgem

Thank you Joe Biden!

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 23 @ 6:12 PM ET
Ya, I understood what you were trying to say, I am not Lefty.

You think Matvei Michkov is NHL ready? Even if he was, he has 3 more season under contract in the KHL.
Also, sometimes we think some of these kids are ready to jump right 8n and be good enough to play in the NHL, yet they struggle to perform, like Podkolzin, or they struggle to stay in the lineup of the AHL team, like Klimovich.

- Reubenkincade


I think Stutzle had a slow start on his second year also. Let's face it not much is going right with this team. Despite his slow start I still like Podz. I said before he started playing, he would score 8 goals his first year about 20 to 25 points. Good passer, surprising release, very good on the forecheck and would beat out Jake and Loui for second line spot. I also said if he is third line that is good for Canucks because that would mean we got better forwards from somewhere.

I don't know if I was Canucks if I would sign another Russian committed for three years.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 23 @ 6:14 PM ET
Thank you Joe Biden!


- LordHumungous

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