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VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 29 @ 12:47 PM ET
Horvat IMO haș just never been quite in the same category as Hintz or Hertl. He might be for the past 30 games but as Vintage keeps saying he's shooting at a career high right now, by 10%.

8 year deal, I'd still say 7.5M per season or less.

- manvanfan


He won't sign for less than JTM.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 29 @ 12:49 PM ET
From Twitter, got a chuckle out of this one...

"I shouldn’t listen to Drancer on my drive to work. He said it would be wise to sign Hogs to $3 mil over 6 years while I was driving and trying to sip my hot coffee. I spat out the coffee and almost rammed into the car ahead of me. Ridiculous."

- VanHockeyGuy

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 29 @ 12:50 PM ET
He won't sign for less than JTM.
- VanHockeyGuy

Yep 8X8.

Retire a Canuck.

Cup in hand.

VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 29 @ 12:55 PM ET
Yep 8X8.

Retire a Canuck.

Cup in hand.

- LordHumungous


It will be all of 8M+, it's not Horvat's fault the team is in cap hell, if they can't pay him someone else will.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Nov 29 @ 12:56 PM ET
It will be all of 8M+, it's not Horvat's fault the team is in cap hell, if they can't pay him someone else will.
- VanHockeyGuy

Bo isn’t worth anything close to $8MM. That’s absurd. This heater he is on doesn’t make him a 1C
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 29 @ 12:57 PM ET
Bo isn’t worth anything close to $8MM. That’s absurd. This heater he is on doesn’t make him a 1C
- CanuckDon


He'll get paid by someone.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 29 @ 1:01 PM ET
Man, if Horvat ended up leaving in free agency, the meltdown would be epic!

It's not like the organization hasn't allowed that to happen before!
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 29 @ 1:01 PM ET
He'll get paid by someone.
- VanHockeyGuy

Let that be someone else. Horvat isn't an 8M a season center. Not even with the cap increasing in the next 5 years. Maybe in year 6 after it hits like 92M a year he could be worth 8M but by then he's worth 5M
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 29 @ 1:08 PM ET
Let that be someone else. Horvat isn't an 8M a season center. Not even with the cap increasing in the next 5 years. Maybe in year 6 after it hits like 92M a year he could be worth 8M but by then he's worth 5M
- manvanfan


At the end of the day, the pressure is on VAN in either scenario with Horvat.

JR's playing this like Lamorello, time is not his friend in this instance.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 29 @ 1:11 PM ET
BUF has been mentioned as a suitor for Horvat, they have the assets and cap to make a deal happen. Interesting times.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 29 @ 1:14 PM ET
BUF has been mentioned as a suitor for Horvat, they have the assets and cap to make a deal happen. Interesting times.
- VanHockeyGuy

That was something else I had thought about is it's hard to find out what's available, if you don't know your suitors. Time to asses the players in their system, where you might be picking. I think a lot of these trades happen over a month or more a lot of the time.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 29 @ 1:15 PM ET
Brendan Batchelor

@BatchHockey
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14m
Ilya Mikheyev is not on the ice for morning skate. #Canucks

Brendan Batchelor

@BatchHockey
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9m
Morning skate #Canucks lines

Höglander-Horvat-Miller
Studnicka-Pettersson-Kuzmenko
Garland-Dries-Boeser
Joshua-Åman-Lazar

OEL-Bear
Hughes-Schenn
Burroughs-Myers
Stillman-Dermott
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 29 @ 1:17 PM ET
After taking a hit to the head on Saturday, CanucksArmy has learned that Lekkerimäki has entered concussion protocol with his Allsvenskan team Djurgården and will miss games over the foreseeable future.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Nov 29 @ 1:21 PM ET
After taking a hit to the head on Saturday, CanucksArmy has learned that Lekkerimäki has entered concussion protocol with his Allsvenskan team Djurgården and will miss games over the foreseeable future.
- manvanfan

Getting back to form after Mono just takes time, getting back from a concussion is always iffy.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 29 @ 1:21 PM ET
That was something else I had thought about is it's hard to find out what's available, if you don't know your suitors. Time to asses the players in their system, where you might be picking. I think a lot of these trades happen over a month or more a lot of the time.
- manvanfan


One would hope there's been conversations with teams on Horvat.

I wonder how motivated each party is to get a deal done right now with JR blowing off Horvat's agent in TO? Xmas trade deadline is quickly approaching and we're into the new year soon. The Canucks have to be working on a plan B.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Nov 29 @ 1:22 PM ET
Brendan Batchelor

@BatchHockey
·
14m
Ilya Mikheyev is not on the ice for morning skate. #Canucks

Brendan Batchelor

@BatchHockey
·
9m
Morning skate #Canucks lines

Höglander-Horvat-Miller
Studnicka-Pettersson-Kuzmenko
Garland-Dries-Boeser
Joshua-Åman-Lazar

OEL-Bear
Hughes-Schenn
Burroughs-Myers
Stillman-Dermott

- manvanfan

Hopefully not gone long, he is a major part of a top 5 line in the NHL.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Nov 29 @ 1:23 PM ET
One would hope there's been conversations with teams on Horvat.

I wonder how motivated each party is to get a deal done right now with JR blowing off Horvat's agent in TO? Xmas trade deadline is quickly approaching and we're into the new year soon. The Canucks have to be working on a plan B.

- VanHockeyGuy

There have been posts that suggest nothing will be done until after Xmas.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 29 @ 1:26 PM ET
Fair comment from Sat...

"But let’s get real, it’s absurd to pay 1C money for Bo, he ain’t that"
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Nov 29 @ 1:29 PM ET
Hopefully not gone long, he is a major part of a top 5 line in the NHL.
- Retinalz


What are you basing this off of?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 29 @ 1:34 PM ET
One would hope there's been conversations with teams on Horvat.

I wonder how motivated each party is to get a deal done right now with JR blowing off Horvat's agent in TO? Xmas trade deadline is quickly approaching and we're into the new year soon. The Canucks have to be working on a plan B.

- VanHockeyGuy

How many times can they bring the same players back and expect different results? They know they have very little in the prospect system for help except maybe a bottom 6 forward.

Quinn's Quest
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 08.08.2022

Nov 29 @ 1:35 PM ET
Hopefully not gone long, he is a major part of a top 5 line in the NHL.
- Retinalz


Hopefully it’s maintenance. Whatever the injury he had maybe bothering him?
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 29 @ 1:38 PM ET
Bo isn’t worth anything close to $8MM. That’s absurd. This heater he is on doesn’t make him a 1C
- CanuckDon

If Bo scores 40 or more this year it pushes him to 1C status. That's how his agent will approach it. Odd that's it's happening in his contract year lol. Nothing to see there I guess.
Quinn's Quest
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 08.08.2022

Nov 29 @ 1:38 PM ET
Fair comment from Sat...

"But let’s get real, it’s absurd to pay 1C money for Bo, he ain’t that"

- VanHockeyGuy


Remember this guy named Hank no one thought was a 1C then around Bo’s age now he hit his stride.

Either they sign Bo to a hometown discount or he gets traded for a bundle before TDL.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Nov 29 @ 1:38 PM ET
Fair comment from Sat...

"But let’s get real, it’s absurd to pay 1C money for Bo, he ain’t that"

- VanHockeyGuy

1C is coming up 9+M, 2c is going to be around 8M. Thats he standard.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 29 @ 1:39 PM ET
BUF has been mentioned as a suitor for Horvat, they have the assets and cap to make a deal happen. Interesting times.
- VanHockeyGuy

If anything CAR would be a perfect fit for Bo. Would give them a killer 1-2-3 punch down the middle for Centres and he'd probably get his cup there lol
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