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1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010
Dec 11 @ 8:41 PM ET
A hypothetical question

4 years of Carey Price LTIR, a first for JTM? Would you?
- VANTEL


If you went hard after a rebuild, I think you could accomplish a lot in 4 years. Plus in year 5 I think OEL comes off the books.

So your proposal is:

Price & 2023 1st for Miller? Is it Montreal’s first or Florida? Protected or not?

I think it’s not quite enough given the cost of taking on Price but if that was the best offer on the table I’d do it, and then trade Horvat, Boeser, Demko (when healthy), Pettersson, Hughes. Then deal all expiring deals before the deadline in the three years following and sign tier 2/3 guys in late July to fill out the roster each season (and deal them too).
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019
Dec 11 @ 9:18 PM ET
If you went hard after a rebuild, I think you could accomplish a lot in 4 years. Plus in year 5 I think OEL comes off the books.

So your proposal is:

Price & 2023 1st for Miller? Is it Montreal’s first or Florida? Protected or not?

I think it’s not quite enough given the cost of taking on Price but if that was the best offer on the table I’d do it, and then trade Horvat, Boeser, Demko (when healthy), Pettersson, Hughes. Then deal all expiring deals before the deadline in the three years following and sign tier 2/3 guys in late July to fill out the roster each season (and deal them too).
- 1970vintage


So you'd rebuild around Garland and Mikheyev and keep the D intact.

I like it. 👍
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010
Dec 11 @ 9:30 PM ET
So you'd rebuild around Garland and Mikheyev and keep the D intact.

I like it. 👍
- Load Management


You have to have some players on the team that are the same year over year.

Garland and Mikheyev maybe get dealt in year 3 or 4. Höglander and Podkolzin either develop into better NHL players or not, but they’ll be cheap for the near term.

Realistically, none of the D under contract are going anywhere. Maybe Myers next deadline, Schenn this deadline, unless you want to make him the captain for the motley crew of a team…
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015
Dec 11 @ 9:38 PM ET
Interesting…

https://canucksarmy.com/n...y-seem-always-giving-puck
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010
Dec 11 @ 9:40 PM ET
Interesting…

https://canucksarmy.com/n...y-seem-always-giving-puck
- Nighthawk

Not really.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019
Dec 11 @ 9:44 PM ET
Interesting…

https://canucksarmy.com/n...y-seem-always-giving-puck
- Nighthawk


Maybe you can lighten up on your criticisms of Myers now.
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018
Dec 11 @ 9:51 PM ET
Maybe you can lighten up on your criticisms of Myers now.
- Load Management

Nah, I think Nighty has soured on Myers
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015
Dec 11 @ 10:02 PM ET
Nah, I think Nighty has soured on Myers

- Shuswap Wap

Yup. The 6m is why
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019
Dec 11 @ 10:26 PM ET
Yup. The 6m is why
- Nighthawk


It's not like he's making OEL money and he'll be tradeable next season at the TDL. I feel your energies are being misguided.
DraftandDestroy
Arizona Coyotes
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Joined: 11.15.2016
Dec 11 @ 10:40 PM ET
Great OT win by the Coyotes over the lowly Flyers tonight, Keller with the hat-trick. Hayton hasn’t been good this year, talented kid but needs a change of scenery. Hayton for Boeser and Rathbone?
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010
Dec 11 @ 10:42 PM ET
Not really.
- Marwood


I didn’t read the whole thing, but… it is difficult to turn the puck over when you don’t have it, and that wouldn’t be reflected in turnovers/60. Did it talk about turnovers per amount of time with control of the puck? I bet that number his higher…
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008
Dec 11 @ 10:59 PM ET
Not really.
- Marwood

More Canuck Army crap.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010
Dec 11 @ 11:01 PM ET
More Canuck Army crap.
- A_SteamingLombardi


They have so many ads and auto play videos on that site now that my ad blocker crashes every time. After reloading the page a few times I end up just giving up. Can’t say I’ve read an entire post there in a few years.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019
Dec 11 @ 11:05 PM ET
They have so many ads and auto play videos on that site now that my ad blocker crashes every time. After reloading the page a few times I end up just giving up. Can’t say I’ve read an entire post there in a few years.
- 1970vintage


You're a Goalie too?
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008
Dec 11 @ 11:12 PM ET
They have so many ads and auto play videos on that site now that my ad blocker crashes every time. After reloading the page a few times I end up just giving up. Can’t say I’ve read an entire post there in a few years.
- 1970vintage

I don't read their crap because it's crap. They exist for delusional fans.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010
Dec 11 @ 11:23 PM ET
You're a Goalie too?
- Load Management


Street hockey and football (soccer). Coach made me put on the pads one time in Novice, that was enough to know I’d never be an ice hockey goalie. 4th line energy guy or fill in # 6 d in a pinch. Not a good skater
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009
Dec 11 @ 11:49 PM ET
Berube on the Blues right now…sounds familiar.


Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019
Dec 11 @ 11:59 PM ET
Berube on the Blues right now…sounds familiar.



- LeftCoaster


It sounds like they need to diversify their management team.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008
Dec 12 @ 12:17 AM ET
Berube on the Blues right now…sounds familiar.



- LeftCoaster

That wood explain the last 10 years.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008
Dec 12 @ 12:18 AM ET
It sounds like they need to diversify their management team.
- Load Management
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010
Dec 12 @ 12:29 AM ET
That wood explain the last 10 years.
- A_SteamingLombardi
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010
Dec 12 @ 12:31 AM ET
If you went hard after a rebuild, I think you could accomplish a lot in 4 years. Plus in year 5 I think OEL comes off the books.

So your proposal is:

Price & 2023 1st for Miller? Is it Montreal’s first or Florida? Protected or not?

I think it’s not quite enough given the cost of taking on Price but if that was the best offer on the table I’d do it, and then trade Horvat, Boeser, Demko (when healthy), Pettersson, Hughes. Then deal all expiring deals before the deadline in the three years following and sign tier 2/3 guys in late July to fill out the roster each season (and deal them too).
- 1970vintage


I didn't get that deep into it TBH. I just looked that in four years you would not be begging for JTM to quit. It doesn't matter to me about whose first Fla or MTL.

In the end I just looked at it as 10 mil in cap space after juggling LTIR every year a first-round pick and dumping an eight-year contract including this year that fans already hate.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010
Dec 12 @ 12:35 AM ET
More Canuck Army crap.
- A_SteamingLombardi
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008
Dec 12 @ 12:36 AM ET




- 1970vintage

2 hours ago
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010
Dec 12 @ 2:58 AM ET
It sounds like they need to diversify their management team.
- Load Management
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