Schenn will be missed.
- Reubenkincade

He deserves better, so does Bear.

What's amazing is despite the complete turmoil surrounding this franchise, management is pretending nothing is wrong. I guess they don't want to scare off any potential trade partners. I'm still laughing at Allvin's stupid interview.
- VanHockeyGuy

I was kind of looking at the cap situation league-wide this morning and only 4 teams have 5 million+ in cap space. Only 9 have 2 million… half of the teams are showing absolutely no cap space. I guess that’s the result when every forward thinks they’re worth 7 million and every Defenceman thinks they’re worth 5 million, when the average salary should be 3.5 million.
The 4 teams with cap are all in full tank mode and not looking to add a Boeser, Horvat, Miller or Myers. So any trade we make, we’ll probably have to retain. And I’m not sure it’s too smart to retain 4 million/season on JT or Brock. We’re gonna be in cap Hell for a long long time.

He deserves better, so does Bear.
- VanHockeyGuy

Yup.

I was flipping through and scanned past a rumour that had Horvat to Boston.

Not sure if it was fan submission or if a name as attached.

Craig Smith, Mike Reilly plus 1st in '23, Lohrei, Harrison plus another name I didn't catch for Horvat, Rathbone.

got to be fan submission otherwise Lysell would have been added but that wasn't the name I didn't recognize.

I was flipping through and scanned past a rumour that had Horvat to Boston.

Not sure if it was fan submission or if a name as attached.

Craig Smith, Mike Reilly plus 1st in '23, Lohrei, Harrison plus another name I didn't catch for Horvat, Rathbone.

got to be fan submission otherwise Lysell would have been added but that wasn't the name I didn't recognize.
- manvanfan

John Beecher?

I was flipping through and scanned past a rumour that had Horvat to Boston.

Not sure if it was fan submission or if a name as attached.

Craig Smith, Mike Reilly plus 1st in '23, Lohrei, Harrison plus another name I didn't catch for Horvat, Rathbone.

got to be fan submission otherwise Lysell would have been added but that wasn't the name I didn't recognize.
- manvanfan

Bruins prospect pool is garbage, there's better teams to trade Horvat to

Sorry Reuby

I was kind of looking at the cap situation league-wide this morning and only 4 teams have 5 million+ in cap space. Only 9 have 2 million… half of the teams are showing absolutely no cap space. I guess that’s the result when every forward thinks they’re worth 7 million and every Defenceman thinks they’re worth 5 million, when the average salary should be 3.5 million.
The 4 teams with cap are all in full tank mode and not looking to add a Boeser, Horvat, Miller or Myers. So any trade we make, we’ll probably have to retain. And I’m not sure it’s too smart to retain 4 million/season on JT or Brock. We’re gonna be in cap Hell for a long long time.
- I-own_da-Northwest

The teardown/rebuild will take 7 years, so timing could work out well.

I was kind of looking at the cap situation league-wide this morning and only 4 teams have 5 million+ in cap space. Only 9 have 2 million… half of the teams are showing absolutely no cap space. I guess that’s the result when every forward thinks they’re worth 7 million and every Defenceman thinks they’re worth 5 million, when the average salary should be 3.5 million.
The 4 teams with cap are all in full tank mode and not looking to add a Boeser, Horvat, Miller or Myers. So any trade we make, we’ll probably have to retain. And I’m not sure it’s too smart to retain 4 million/season on JT or Brock. We’re gonna be in cap Hell for a long long time.
- I-own_da-Northwest

Cap's are calculated over the 186 day season. So Horvat at the tdl would be 1.4M against the cap.

I was kind of looking at the cap situation league-wide this morning and only 4 teams have 5 million+ in cap space. Only 9 have 2 million… half of the teams are showing absolutely no cap space. I guess that’s the result when every forward thinks they’re worth 7 million and every Defenceman thinks they’re worth 5 million, when the average salary should be 3.5 million.
The 4 teams with cap are all in full tank mode and not looking to add a Boeser, Horvat, Miller or Myers. So any trade we make, we’ll probably have to retain. And I’m not sure it’s too smart to retain 4 million/season on JT or Brock. We’re gonna be in cap Hell for a long long time.
- I-own_da-Northwest

Cap is more complex than straight annual cap when making in-season trades. LTIR also makes it more complex

Edit: minivan beat me to it

Bruins prospect pool is garbage, there's better teams to trade Horvat to

Sorry Reuby
- Nucker101

I said the same thing in the summer, when Bergeron was still unsure about returning.
They will tear it down and rebuild in a hurry though.

John Beecher?
- Reubenkincade

No, I went to look at their depth charts and I didn't recognize so I probably just didn't see it or maybe it wasn't a player and was a pick. Just know there was a , and another word after.

I was flipping through and scanned past a rumour that had Horvat to Boston.

Not sure if it was fan submission or if a name as attached.

Craig Smith, Mike Reilly plus 1st in '23, Lohrei, Harrison plus another name I didn't catch for Horvat, Rathbone.

got to be fan submission otherwise Lysell would have been added but that wasn't the name I didn't recognize.
- manvanfan

Id think we’d want Lysell, Carlo, Frederick(for cap reasons) 23-1st.
For Rathbone and Horvat and we’d have to retain on Horvat. Neither team has any caproom though.. so it’s very hard to make anything work.

I said the same thing in the summer, when Bergeron was still unsure about returning.
They will tear it down and rebuild in a hurry though.
- Reubenkincade

They're built to win now for sure and have a good chance to do so, I respect the all-in approach which is why if I were them, I'd be open to moving Lysell and a 1st for another upgrade.

Bruins prospect pool is garbage, there's better teams to trade Horvat to

Sorry Reuby
- Nucker101

It's not good but it has parts, Van's pool doesn't have.

Cap's are calculated over the 186 day season. So Horvat at the tdl would be 1.4M against the cap.
- manvanfan

In hearing that, I would have to think that maybe Detroit would be a realistic destination for Boeser or Horvat.

Id think we’d want Lysell, Carlo, Frederick(for cap reasons) 23-1st.
For Rathbone and Horvat and we’d have to retain on Horvat. Neither team has any caproom though.. so it’s very hard to make anything work.
- I-own_da-Northwest

More Americans and a Swede, no thanks

Id think we’d want Lysell, Carlo, Frederick(for cap reasons) 23-1st.
For Rathbone and Horvat and we’d have to retain on Horvat. Neither team has any caproom though.. so it’s very hard to make anything work.
- I-own_da-Northwest

Craig Smith is 3.1M and Mike Reilly is 3M. That cover's the daily cap of Horvat.

Would allow Van to trade another LHD and not have to call up a forward from Abbotsford.

In hearing that, I would have to think that maybe Detroit would be a realistic destination for Boeser or Horvat.
- I-own_da-Northwest

Possible, sooner or later Yzerman is going to want his team to take the next step and a solid NHL center would help that step more than some potential prospects and picks.

In hearing that, I would have to think that maybe Detroit would be a realistic destination for Boeser or Horvat.
- I-own_da-Northwest

I wouldn't believe it until it happens. Remember how many destinations were in the bag landing spots for Miller?

The Chipmunks will probably sit on it and disect it until it is too late.

It's not good but it has parts, Van's pool doesn't have.
- manvanfan

For a Bo deal, I want quality > quantity

If it's Schenn/Myers then sure, lets see what prospects they have

I wouldn't believe it until it happens. Remember how many destinations were in the bag landing spots for Miller?

The Chipmunks will probably sit on it and disect it until it is too late.
- VANTEL

They’ll probably decide at 2:05 on deadline day what they wanted to do

The Vancouver Canucks won’t pay to move a player
Sportsnet: Elliotte Friedman on 32 Thoughts.

“So I think what the Canucks’ve realized is, they don’t want to trade away first-round picks. They don’t want to trade away any other picks really. They really want to get back the second-rounder they traded to Chicago in the Jason Richardinson deal.

They don’t want to move away players who they are going to have to incentivize people to move.


And again, it’s not a teardown, but I think what they’re willing to do is move a core player, at least one, to say, okay, maybe we can do it this way. And they’ve told people that’s not Pettersson and my first question was: wait a second, Hughes? And what people said to me was the Canucks just said, look, it’s not something we’re looking to do.

I just think that if you are interested in him, it’s going to take an enormous offer to get him out of there. But I just don’t think he’s untouchable like Pettersson appears to be.

But I think what this says to me is that the Canucks know if they’re going to switch around their mix a bit and breathe new life into their roster. They can’t just make cap dump deals without incentivizing people.”

For a Bo deal, I want quality > quantity

If it's Schenn/Myers then sure, lets see what prospects they have
- Nucker101

I'd take highest value. Not every trade is going to fill every need as some seem to make them out to be.

The Vancouver Canucks won’t pay to move a player
Sportsnet: Elliotte Friedman on 32 Thoughts.

“So I think what the Canucks’ve realized is, they don’t want to trade away first-round picks. They don’t want to trade away any other picks really. They really want to get back the second-rounder they traded to Chicago in the Jason Richardinson deal.

They don’t want to move away players who they are going to have to incentivize people to move.


And again, it’s not a teardown, but I think what they’re willing to do is move a core player, at least one, to say, okay, maybe we can do it this way. And they’ve told people that’s not Pettersson and my first question was: wait a second, Hughes? And what people said to me was the Canucks just said, look, it’s not something we’re looking to do.

I just think that if you are interested in him, it’s going to take an enormous offer to get him out of there. But I just don’t think he’s untouchable like Pettersson appears to be.

But I think what this says to me is that the Canucks know if they’re going to switch around their mix a bit and breathe new life into their roster. They can’t just make cap dump deals without incentivizing people.”
- Reubenkincade

Like Benning, day by day plan.

Like Benning, day by day plan.
- manvanfan

Yup.