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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012
Dec 26 @ 7:58 PM ET
I don't think he's a straight up bust but I'm not seeing future difference maker. Maybe a nice role player.
- Nucker101

Ruby wanted him that year.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016
Dec 26 @ 7:58 PM ET

Crappy
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016
Dec 26 @ 7:59 PM ET

Wow.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015
Dec 26 @ 8:01 PM ET
Yeah. Also the closer you get to TDL the more other players become available then becoming a buyers market
- VANTEL

Yup a real buyers market last year.
Au contraire….

https://www.espn.com/nhl/...-deals-rumors-grades-2022

TDL was March 21st. Anything but a buyers market.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008
Dec 26 @ 8:01 PM ET
Wow, the guy makes a connection between sporting events, networks and sponsors making money. He's a (frank)ing genius...
- boonerbuck
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016
Dec 26 @ 8:01 PM ET
Ruby wanted him that year.
- manvanfan


He did?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015
Dec 26 @ 8:02 PM ET
Go & eat & then a smoke & boom 5-2 wtf? Lol
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012
Dec 26 @ 8:06 PM ET
He did?
- Reubenkincade

Yup. It was in the 2019 draft blog but it's gone now too old.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015
Dec 26 @ 8:07 PM ET
Hagel got ‘23 & ‘24 1sts
Chiarot a ‘23 1st

Just a few cheap buying there.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016
Dec 26 @ 8:14 PM ET
Yup. It was in the 2019 draft blog but it's gone now too old.
- manvanfan


Oh, you mean the draft where I was hoping the Canucks would get Seider or Cozens, with Newhook being a player I would be Okey with, just like I was okay with Podkolzin.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012
Dec 26 @ 8:16 PM ET
Hagel got ‘23 & ‘24 1sts
Chiarot a ‘23 1st

Just a few cheap buying there.
- Nighthawk

Hagel looks like a decent deal now. Still another year at 1.5M and playing pretty well this year.

Difference between a late 1st and a late 2nd is a lot.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015
Dec 26 @ 8:22 PM ET
Hagel looks like a decent deal now. Still another year at 1.5M and playing pretty well this year.

Difference between a late 1st and a late 2nd is a lot.
- manvanfan

What does that have to do with it wasn’t a buyers market last TDL but automagically it will be this year?

FYI Hamonic fetched us a 3rd.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012
Dec 26 @ 8:22 PM ET
Oh, you mean the draft where I was hoping the Canucks would get Seider or Cozens, with Newhook being a player I would be Okey with, just like I was okay with Podkolzin.
- Reubenkincade

You just knew both players weren't going to be there, weeks ahead of time. You weren't one of the many that was surprised that Yzerman took Seider.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015
Dec 26 @ 8:24 PM ET
You just knew both players weren't going to be there, weeks ahead of time. You weren't one of the many that was surprised that Yzerman took Seider.
- manvanfan

I was as surprised as Seider’s face showed lol

I knew he was a prize but no clue Stevie Y wanted him that bad. Normally D are a risk but that took some big balls.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012
Dec 26 @ 8:26 PM ET
What does that have to do with it wasn’t a buyers market last TDL but automagically it will be this year?

FYI Hamonic fetched us a 3rd.
- Nighthawk

I'm trying to explain why you think that it was some sort of seller's market because of those 2 deals but it really wasn't. You know you are getting a high pick if it's coming from TB. The value of a TB 2nd round pick is sweet (frank) all.

https://soundofhockey.com...value-of-nhl-draft-picks/

Here's a new draft value chart.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012
Dec 26 @ 8:31 PM ET
I was as surprised as Seider’s face showed lol

I knew he was a prize but no clue Stevie Y wanted him that bad. Normally D are a risk but that took some big balls.
- Nighthawk

21 Moritz Seider D Adler Mannheim (DEL) 24 25 29 21 30 12 17 22

All the rankings that year for him.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015
Dec 26 @ 8:32 PM ET
I'm trying to explain why you think that it was some sort of seller's market because of those 2 deals but it really wasn't. You know you are getting a high pick if it's coming from TB. The value of a TB 2nd round pick is sweet (frank) all.

https://soundofhockey.com...value-of-nhl-draft-picks/

Here's a new draft value chart.
- manvanfan

Wtf? I never said sellers market. Disputing the BS it’s a buyers market. Pay attention. What is this 2nd you go on about?

IT WAS A 2023 1st & 2024 1st.

Now try to explain again lol
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016
Dec 26 @ 8:33 PM ET
You just knew both players weren't going to be there, weeks ahead of time. You weren't one of the many that was surprised that Yzerman took Seider.
- manvanfan


Pretty sure it was Vantel and I who had him high, you had him late 1st, so there is that.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015
Dec 26 @ 8:37 PM ET
Last year…
22 regular season games 7pts
23 PO games 6pts

If those Hagel numbers are worth 2 late 1sts can only imagine what Bo COULD get lol 2/1.5m whoopee lol
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015
Dec 26 @ 8:38 PM ET
Pretty sure it was Vantel and I who had him high, you had him late 1st, so there is that.
- Reubenkincade

I had him about 10-12 if recall correctly.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012
Dec 26 @ 8:40 PM ET
Wtf? I never said sellers market. Disputing the BS it’s a buyers market. Pay attention. What is this 2nd you go on about?

IT WAS A 2023 1st & 2024 1st.

Now try to explain again lol
- Nighthawk

Yup a real buyers market last year.
Au contraire….

https://www.espn.com/nhl/...-deals-rumors-grades-2022

TDL was March 21st. Anything but a buyers market.

So if it's Anything but a buyers market then what exactly was it if it's wasn't a sellers market it.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015
Dec 26 @ 8:42 PM ET
Let’s get real…

The ask for Bo is a young C & RHD.
A hockey trade but unrealistic that any team wanting Bo can offer that at this time. There is no doubt if for picks they’d get a haul. In my estimation only the Canes & LAK off the top of my head have those pieces.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005
Dec 26 @ 8:42 PM ET
So if it's Anything but a buyers market then what exactly was it if it's wasn't a sellers market it.
- manvanfan
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012
Dec 26 @ 8:43 PM ET
Pretty sure it was Vantel and I who had him high, you had him late 1st, so there is that.
- Reubenkincade

I had him before late 1st.

He was a player I would normally take mid 1st round I said. He wasn't in my top 15 but close.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015
Dec 26 @ 8:53 PM ET
So if it's Anything but a buyers market then what exactly was it if it's wasn't a sellers market it.
- manvanfan

Nope. Dumb GM’s yes.
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