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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010
Jan 2 @ 6:02 PM ET
All those are reasonable especially if Bo resigns but that’s an unknown.

I’m expecting something nobody right now sees coming. Just a hunch.
- Nighthawk


Like re-signing in Vancouver?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012
Jan 2 @ 6:03 PM ET
not hoping, guessing.

Roslovic + Peeke + 1st

Or

Lysol + Zacha + 1st

or

Laf + Chytil + pick


#AgeGap
#RetoolTheRetool
- Nucker101


One of those trades has a LOT more value than the other 2.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015
Jan 2 @ 6:06 PM ET
It’s the Travis Dermott syndrome. Honestly I think most would prefer it was Miller and it doesn’t look likely that Bo resigns.
- K-man25

Depth of quality on D mucks it all up. D like Dermott are too difficult to gauge. Of course Myers comes to my mind. I can live with being stuck with OEL for up to 2 more years. Hughes complimented by Schenn or Bear I can live with. OEL has no such complimentary partner. Remains the big problem in our top 4. The ever elusive top 4 RHD.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015
Jan 2 @ 6:07 PM ET
Like re-signing in Vancouver?
- VANTEL

Always a possibility & I want that. I just cannot figure out how til at least 1 big move happens 1st.
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016
Jan 2 @ 6:08 PM ET
Are fans really hoping for a trade of a player on pace for fifty goals for another healthy scratch player on pace for 12 goals

Time for a coffee and to try to figure out WTF they are thinking.
- VANTEL

Good one, welcome to the asylum lol
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010
Jan 2 @ 6:11 PM ET
I have said it before I really care a whole lot less this year than I have in years past, so I don't really care who they trade but trading Bo is a step in the direction of a tear down/rebuild. That will go along side perfectly with their playoff push and bubble finish.

Wanting to trade for Dach is another sign they really have no clue of what they are doing. His highest goal production in a 70-game season is 9. He looks like he may break that and hit 11 this year.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010
Jan 2 @ 6:12 PM ET
Always a possibility & I want that. I just cannot figure out how til at least 1 big move happens 1st.
- Nighthawk


It is as simple as buying out OEL
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016
Jan 2 @ 6:12 PM ET
Like re-signing in Vancouver?
- VANTEL

Trade Miller is the obvious route to be taking but who the frank knows what their thinking.
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016
Jan 2 @ 6:15 PM ET
I have said it before I really care a whole lot less this year than I have in years past, so I don't really care who they trade but trading Bo is a step in the direction of a tear down/rebuild. That will go along side perfectly with their playoff push and bubble finish.

Wanting to trade for Dach is another sign they really have no clue of what they are doing. His highest goal production in a 70-game season is 9. He looks like he may break that and hit 11 this year.
- VANTEL

Still living off that playoff he had as a rookie similar to Sam Bennett.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019
Jan 2 @ 6:15 PM ET
I have said it before I really care a whole lot less this year than I have in years past, so I don't really care who they trade but trading Bo is a step in the direction of a tear down/rebuild. That will go along side perfectly with their playoff push and bubble finish.

Wanting to trade for Dach is another sign they really have no clue of what they are doing. His highest goal production in a 70-game season is 9. He looks like he may break that and hit 11 this year.
- VANTEL


This is the first time I've heard this. I doubt it's anything more than another rumour for the giant pile that's accumulating.
onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015
Jan 2 @ 6:16 PM ET
It is as simple as buying out OEL
- VANTEL

We lived with lugongo cap hit, OEL longer, but a buyout has almost no cap hit next year, according to Drance, but it's on the books for a bunch after.

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010
Jan 2 @ 6:16 PM ET
This is the first time I've heard this. I doubt it's anything more than another rumour for the giant pile that's accumulating.
- Load Management


True
onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015
Jan 2 @ 6:18 PM ET
This is the first time I've heard this. I doubt it's anything more than another rumour for the giant pile that's accumulating.
- Load Management

It was reported that the Canucks were interested before he was traded last year
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015
Jan 2 @ 6:21 PM ET
I have said it before I really care a whole lot less this year than I have in years past, so I don't really care who they trade but trading Bo is a step in the direction of a tear down/rebuild. That will go along side perfectly with their playoff push and bubble finish.

Wanting to trade for Dach is another sign they really have no clue of what they are doing. His highest goal production in a 70-game season is 9. He looks like he may break that and hit 11 this year.
- VANTEL

Trading Bo is going towards a rebuild I agree 100%. As for Dach he doesn’t do it for me especially since on the wing is where he’s best & that’s not saying much. We need a real stellar piece for Bo plus a 1st as a min in the package. Resign him & he’s still a wanted commodity if traded later.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010
Jan 2 @ 6:22 PM ET
Trading Bo is going towards a rebuild I agree 100%. As for Dach he doesn’t do it for me especially since on the wing is where he’s best & that’s not saying much. We need a real stellar piece for Bo plus a 1st as a min in the package. Resign him & he’s still a wanted commodity if traded later.
- Nighthawk


any new contract for Bo will likely include a full NTC
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010
Jan 2 @ 6:23 PM ET
We lived with lugongo cap hit, OEL longer, but a buyout has almost no cap hit next year, according to Drance, but it's on the books for a bunch after.
- onesmallleap


I don't care about a 2 mil cap hit in 7 and 8 years away. The cap could be 100 mil by then. It gives you 5-7 mil in free space for a guy playing like a 2.5 mil Dman.

Minny did it x two with Parise and Suter. They still signed the new guys at high contracts and are doing fine.

There are two years the penalty would be a 4 mil cap hit but with this year's raise of the cap and next years I think that should cover the hit.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015
Jan 2 @ 6:24 PM ET
It is as simple as buying out OEL
- VANTEL

Sure but did you look at his buyout numbers for 8yrs?

https://www.capfriendly.com/buyout-calculator

Gotta have a lot more in mind than just buying him out. It would be a rebuild for sure. Eff FA if that’s the plan.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012
Jan 2 @ 6:25 PM ET
any new contract for Bo will likely include a full NTC
- Nucker101

Bo might get some better wingers while the Canucks remain mediocre and they will get to pick all those soft skilled wingers
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015
Jan 2 @ 6:25 PM ET
We lived with lugongo cap hit, OEL longer, but a buyout has almost no cap hit next year, according to Drance, but it's on the books for a bunch after.
- onesmallleap

Eff Drance use CF

https://www.capfriendly.com/buyout-calculator
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010
Jan 2 @ 6:26 PM ET
any new contract for Bo will likely include a full NTC
- Nucker101


This is Vancouver. NTCs are as common as flooding and bad draft choices
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015
Jan 2 @ 6:27 PM ET
Bo might get some better wingers while the Canucks remain mediocre and they will get to pick all those soft skilled wingers
- manvanfan

The Reuby Plan (super softs)
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008
Jan 2 @ 6:29 PM ET
It is as simple as buying out OEL
- VANTEL
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015
Jan 2 @ 6:31 PM ET
Why not retain on OEL in a trade & save 4yrs of the buyout?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012
Jan 2 @ 6:32 PM ET
The Reuby Plan (super softs)
- Nighthawk

Not going there
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012
Jan 2 @ 6:33 PM ET
Why not retain on OEL in a trade & save 4yrs of the buyout?
- Nighthawk

Why do anything with OEL until an actual plan is in place?
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