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NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016
Dec 2 @ 5:42 PM ET
No. McDonagh can still play the hockey.
- 1970vintage

OEL plays at a similar level to McDonagh
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016
Dec 2 @ 5:43 PM ET
I understand how hard it is to build the best of the best, but I would really appreciate seeing good consistent hockey.

Work hard, score goals, play physical, and entertain.
- VANTEL


I would be happy with just the bolded.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012
Dec 2 @ 5:43 PM ET
No. McDonagh can still play the hockey.
- 1970vintage

Last time I saw Nashville play for 2 periods about a week ago. I didn't see much from him.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016
Dec 2 @ 5:44 PM ET
Well he was. And now he isn’t 🤷‍♂️
- CanuckDon



Fair enough
Quinn's Quest
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 08.08.2022
Dec 2 @ 5:45 PM ET
Sure


Would be nice to no longer have all of our hopes pinned on Lekkermaki and have our best dman prospect not be a guy that Minnesota didn't bother to sign
- Nucker101


No hope is the reality. The last picks that hope was given to are Petey and QH plus Demko. Now that is being flushed out.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010
Dec 2 @ 5:46 PM ET
No hope is the reality. The last picks that hope was given too are Petey and QH plus Demko. Now that is being flushed out.
- Quinn's Quest



Either way, all I want is a real long term plan and team that's harder to play against, if it takes a couple of years of losing to get there, then so be it. Tired of the shortcuts that only delay in inevitable. Just rip off the bandaid
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016
Dec 2 @ 5:47 PM ET
No. McDonagh can still play the hockey.
- 1970vintage


If he doesn't get points, he doesn't play the hockey.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010
Dec 2 @ 5:50 PM ET
OEL plays at a similar level to McDonagh
- NorthNuck


Fair, haven’t watched a Nashville game in a while.

I guess you could trade OEL for future considerations, or an expiring contract IF you retained about $3m.

There’s probably a team who’s would take him at $4m for 4 more years.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016
Dec 2 @ 5:51 PM ET
Either way, all I want is a real long term plan and team that's harder to play against, if it takes a couple of years of losing to get there, then so be it. Tired of the shortcuts that only delay in inevitable. Just rip off the bandaid
- Nucker101


When your top 5 line in the league is fun to play against, ya, it is time to tear it all down.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012
Dec 2 @ 5:54 PM ET
When your top 5 line in the league is fun to play against, ya, it is time to tear it all down.
- Reubenkincade


FLA certainly had fun last night 😂
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016
Dec 2 @ 5:55 PM ET
Fair, haven’t watched a Nashville game in a while.

I guess you could trade OEL for future considerations, or an expiring contract IF you retained about $3m.

There’s probably a team who’s would take him at $4m for 4 more years.
- 1970vintage

I would be trying to do the same thing as you're suggesting, but it seems to me like management has no desire to try and offload his contract.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016
Dec 2 @ 5:56 PM ET
Fair, haven’t watched a Nashville game in a while.

I guess you could trade OEL for future considerations, or an expiring contract IF you retained about $3m.

There’s probably a team who’s would take him at $4m for 4 more years.
- 1970vintage


Just in case you are wondering, the most salary the Canucks could retain on OEL is 3.135, as Arizona currently has 990k retained.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016
Dec 2 @ 5:56 PM ET
FLA certainly had fun last night 😂
- VanHockeyGuy


As did Washington the game before.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010
Dec 2 @ 6:00 PM ET
Just in case you are wondering, the most salary the Canucks could retain on OEL is 3.135, as Arizona currently has 990k retained.
- Reubenkincade


Isn’t it 50% of remaining value? Of is the max allowed 50% of the total contract combined?

Anyway, that number gets them to about $4m per year.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008
Dec 2 @ 6:02 PM ET
Canucks fan can't handle rebuilds.
- manvanfan

The last true rebuild this team had we drafted the Sedins, I don't think our current owner was even a hockey fan back then.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005
Dec 2 @ 6:09 PM ET
Canucks management are full of sh1t. I know most hated the last group here, but I think this new group is even a bigger clown show.
- VANTEL


I agree. Why would it take them over a year to figure out this team needs major changes instead of tweaks to hopefully get into the playoffs. If they are that unaware of why Benning got fired and need a year plus to realize this themselves, they are incompetent.

Instead their approach reads like this... "maybe Benning didnt do such a bad job, let's not (frank) up what he built and try to keep on track".

Well Rutherford,,,,
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016
Dec 2 @ 6:09 PM ET
Isn’t it 50% of remaining value? Of is the max allowed 50% of the total contract combined?

Anyway, that number gets them to about $4m per year.
- 1970vintage


50% of total cap
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010
Dec 2 @ 6:11 PM ET
I agree. Why would it take them over a year to figure out this team needs major changes instead of tweaks to hopefully get into the playoffs. If they are that unaware of why Benning got fired and need a year plus to realize this themselves, they are incompetent.

Instead their approach reads like this... "maybe Benning didnt do such a bad job, let's not (frank) up what he built and try to keep on track".

Well Rutherford,,,,


- boonerbuck
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005
Dec 2 @ 6:12 PM ET
Poor Lefty
- A_SteamingLombardi


Almost all those teams were ones Lefty at one point or the other claimed were doing it right and Van should watch and learn.

What a dotard.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005
Dec 2 @ 6:12 PM ET
This guy is the opposite of Chester, king slurper! In reference to Demko injury.

“ Injury curse strikes again. Hope it isnt serious otherwise if hes out longtern it could hurt our playoff chances”
@StuffCalebSaid
- 1970vintage


Rutherford's alt....
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016
Dec 2 @ 6:13 PM ET
Almost all those teams were ones Lefty at one point or the other claimed were doing it right and Van should watch and learn.

What a dotard.

- boonerbuck


Arizona now in its 3rd rebuild in 12 years, Canucks on 3rd retool in 12 years.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008
Dec 2 @ 6:14 PM ET
Almost all those teams were ones Lefty at one point or the other claimed were doing it right and Van should watch and learn.

What a dotard.

- boonerbuck

He eats hot dogs what do you expect.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010
Dec 2 @ 6:15 PM ET
50% of total cap
- Reubenkincade


I just looked at CF. I don’t think he’s tradable for two more years. He’s owed $10.5m in real salary next year and $8 the year after with no bonus money you could absorb. Salary drops to the $5 range the final two seasons. He’s here until they end unless they buy him out.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008
Dec 2 @ 6:17 PM ET
I just looked at CF. I don’t think he’s tradable for two more years. He’s owed $10.5m in real salary next year and $8 the year after with no bonus money you could absorb. Salary drops to the $5 range the final two seasons. He’s here until they end unless they buy him out.
- 1970vintage
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005
Dec 2 @ 6:20 PM ET

- A_SteamingLombardi


30-06 by the looks of it.
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