He currently sits snugly between Foresberg and Stone for points per game. That’s an 8.5-9.5m player today…
- 1970vintage

Those guys do it on their own while Kuz needs EP .... but yes they will argue that...

Hughes having another bad game. Should build around him.
- Reubenkincade

2 points lol

It will hurt for years to come.... As long as we have to watch OEL and Dylan Guenther.
- SMP8719

Canucks would have whiffed on that pick.

Doesn’t matter who we get in the first round, fans and media will put all kinds of pressure on the kid and run them out of town if there not stars by the time they hit early twenties, there is a learning curve for most.

Ty young shut out the rockets, 30 saves, he’s down he’s up, I’ve seen him play great games and bad games, oh them young players trying to gain that consistency it’s a tough road.

Doesn’t matter who we get in the first round, fans and media will put all kinds of pressure on the kid and run them out of town if there not stars by the time they hit early twenties, there is a learning curve for most.

Doesn’t matter who we get in the first round, fans and media will put all kinds of pressure on the kid and run them out of town if there not stars by the time they hit early twenties, there is a learning curve for most.
- Bettmanhatesus

Most stars ARE stars by their early twenties, players used to peak around 27-29 and started declining around 32 and upwards. Now they peak at 22-24 and decline earlier than 30 (for some although it's not a hard and fast rule). Players that peak later in their careers like Alex Burrows and Panarin are the outliers and not representative of most NHL players.

Myers and Ekman-Larsson both rank among the top 45 defencemen in the NHL by cap hit, so they’re paid to be true top-pair defenders. And after finding chemistry with one another down the stretch last season — their play as a defence pair was an unsung driver of the short-lived “Bruce there it is” era’s 57-game success — their contributions have fallen well short this season.

Ekman-Larsson in particular has struggled with his mobility at times, taking a significant step back from the classy two-way defensive form that he demonstrated throughout his first Canucks campaign. With Ekman-Larsson on the ice at five-on-five, the club has been outscored by 10 and outchanced by 55.

Myers’ struggles are, perhaps, somewhat less obvious. The Canucks haven’t been outscored with Myers on the ice this season, but the underlying profile is deeply concerning — even if Myers’ ability to squeeze at the blue line and defend in the neutral zone remains solid and useful.

Nonetheless, the Canucks have been outchanced by 76 with Myers on the ice, and his plus-5 rating and even five-on-five goal differential are almost entirely a product of him sharing the ice with a bunch of elite finishers converting at an astounding clip — rather than a reflection of his individual contributions.

In fact, among all regular Canucks defenders, the club is surrendering scoring chances, expected goals and shots against at a higher clip with Myers on the ice than they’re surrendering with any regular defender this season aside from Stillman.

To reiterate the point, the issue isn’t just that Myers and Ekman-Larsson have struggled — both individually and as a defence pair — it’s that they’ve struggled to this extent while eating up $13.26 million in cap space and earning $15.5 million in combined salary this season.

Ouch.

Bryan Adams doing national anthems now in Pittsburgh. He sounds even more whiney these days.
- VANTEL

More so than the cry babies here?

It’s gonna be annoying if Demko comes back strong enough to cover up their warts again
- Nucker101

lol was just thinking that. Could go on a 10-12 game heater with 3-4 Shutouts.

A lot of people were happy with that trade because of Garland. It was agreed that he was the best part of the trade at the time and people ooo'd and awed over his tenacious work ethic.



- boonerbuck

Garland looked decent last night...but overall he was a better player in ARZ lol

Garland looked decent last night...but overall he was a better player in ARZ lol
- LordHumungous

Better team in Arizona.

Better team in Arizona.

- VANTEL

lol where are we in the WC hunt?

Getting close to TDL gonna get interesting if we don't string a few wins together.

lol where are we in the WC hunt?

Getting close to TDL gonna get interesting if we don't string a few wins together.
- LordHumungous

They are closer to the terribly bad Sharks than they are to the team one spot above them in the standings... they're closer to the tanking Coyotes than they are the last WC spot

Those guys do it on their own while Kuz needs EP .... but yes they will argue that...
- SMP8719

Perhaps. But if you want to sign a guy long term it costs more because they expect the cap to go up. $6m on a bridge is cheap compared to his own teammates…

Signing him would be incredibly stupid for a team badly in need of a rebuild.

Ouch.
- NewYorkNuck

Nobody could possibly have seen this coming, two elite guys just absolutely falling off a cliff.

Nobody could possibly have seen this coming, two elite guys just absolutely falling off a cliff.
- 1970vintage

And in the prime of their careers!

And in the prime of their careers!
- NewYorkNuck

It’s funny, the Canuck twitter crowd who were saying things like “bold prediction, OEL will be a stud”, or best defenseman etc are now saying “I can’t believe it, who could have predicted this…”

Dude, like everyone else who was paying attention!

Perhaps he will just retire like Lui Eriksson did.

Ouch.
- NewYorkNuck

Somehow, this is surprising?

Ek now backpedaling on the Probarov rumors, suggesting he could be part of a Horvat trade

This is for Reuby.
“I don't think it's mental; I just think their best players kind of stepped up and made a bunch of plays and decided they were going to try to make an impact on the game,” Hughes said. “I don't think it's mental errors from our part, just them playing better than us.”

This is for Reuby.
“I don't think it's mental; I just think their best players kind of stepped up and made a bunch of plays and decided they were going to try to make an impact on the game,” Hughes said. “I don't think it's mental errors from our part, just them playing better than us.”
- Marwood

That is hilarious. Kid is clueless.

That is hilarious. Kid is clueless.
- Reubenkincade

Sounds like Miller is a good influence in the room.

That is hilarious. Kid is clueless.
- Reubenkincade

Actually, I think this is keenly astute. He’s acknowledging that the Penguins are simply a better team than the Canucks. It doesn’t matter how well they play, if the competition also plays well, chances are they (the rest of the league) win.

If only management could have this same epiphany.

Sounds like Miller is a good influence in the room.
- Marwood

It’s really Jay Beagles fault, and to a lesser extent, Brandon Sutter. These were the guys who were supposed to teach the young guys what it takes.