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VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jan 19 @ 11:56 AM ET
Many in here wanted to add a first with Boeser to get Dumba.

That's also why I traded Schenn to the Wild for two D prospects of theirs.

- manvanfan


Pass.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jan 19 @ 11:58 AM ET
Seattles 1st round pick alone in this draft is going to have the same (frank)en value as Boston 1st and Lysell.

The 23rd pick vs the 32 pick. Who the (frank) would rather have the 32nd pick instead of the 23.

Jagger Furkis is scoring at a higher rate than Lysell did in Juniors. An current NHL right handed center plus another 2nd round pick.

That trade is literally double the value of Lysell and a 1st from Boston.

- manvanfan

Seattle is in a playoff spot and that pick is going to be around 20. Bostons is going to be less than 10 spots higher. How is their 1st more valuable than Lysell and Bostons 1st? Lysell is playing well in the AHL. Also Boston would need to add to those two pieces.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 19 @ 12:00 PM ET
I’d love that, but I doubt Philadelphia would do that. They have a plethora of young wingers. Still praying for a Quinn Hughes to New Jersey for a few big, young, mobile defencemen.
- LeftCoaster

For Hughes to be traded you would need to get 2-1st round picks 2-2nd round picks and two roster players.

What Karlsson got Ottawa who still sucks 4.5 years later..

Graves, Sharangovich, Topias Vilen, NJ 1st, NJ 2nd,
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 19 @ 12:12 PM ET
Seattle is in a playoff spot and that pick is going to be around 20. Bostons is going to be less than 10 spots higher. How is their 1st more valuable than Lysell and Bostons 1st? Lysell is playing well in the AHL. Also Boston would need to add to those two pieces.
- Retinalz

Lysell is doing a little bit better than Van's 41st pick Danila Klimovich. Pointless at the WJ's for Lysell didn't exactly boost his value at all.

Pick value chart has the separation between the 23rd and 32 pick as basically a mid round 2nd.

Furkis is younger, scoring at a better rate than Lysell and was a 35th pick.

Morgan Geekie most likely go for a 2nd round pick himself.

Boston, doesn't have a 2nd round pick. They don't have a prospect that's worth a 2nd.(Maybe Priotas or Harrison) They don't really have anyone they are most likely giving up off their roster.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jan 19 @ 12:20 PM ET
Lysell is doing a little bit better than Van's 41st pick Danila Klimovich. Pointless at the WJ's for Lysell didn't exactly boost his value at all.

Pick value chart has the separation between the 23rd and 32 pick as basically a mid round 2nd.

Furkis is younger, scoring at a better rate than Lysell and was a 35th pick.

Morgan Geekie most likely go for a 2nd round pick himself.

Boston, doesn't have a 2nd round pick. They don't have a prospect that's worth a 2nd.(Maybe Priotas or Harrison) They don't really have anyone they are most likely giving up off their roster.

- manvanfan

Basically we don't get a solid prospect for Horvat either way. Maybe we can somehow get Wright out of Seattle for Horvat if traded.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 19 @ 12:25 PM ET
Jason Brough 🙁

@SadClubCommish
Hearing now that it could be Tocchet Monday. Will he bring a few assistant coaches with him?

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I guess he signs his contract on Monday.....

- manvanfan


Even TNT feels sorry for Bruce, they’re letting Tocchet out early
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jan 19 @ 12:26 PM ET
Is that the real MJ?
- Bettmanhatesus


No that's a picture
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 19 @ 12:26 PM ET
Those first 2 are terrible. Even if it is very little currently, Garland has positive value and Zaitsev would cost at least a 2nd and 3rd, if not a 1st to dump.
Those two prospects coming back for Horvat are very MEH. Would rather Lysell and a 1st from Boston.
Schenn's deal is fine, and the last one is fine. It's who cares for who cares.

- Retinalz


You’re going to be disappointed after this TDL
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 19 @ 12:26 PM ET
No that's a picture
- NewYorkNuck

NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jan 19 @ 12:27 PM ET
Even TNT feels sorry for Bruce, they’re letting Tocchet out early
- Nucker101


TNT scraps for coach
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 19 @ 12:28 PM ET
Basically we don't get a solid prospect for Horvat either way. Maybe we can somehow get Wright out of Seattle for Horvat if traded.
- Retinalz

Literally the same poop as last TDL with Miller, Rutherford expecting to young great players from the other team. It's pretty clear teams aren't going to do it.

I looked at hockey writers top 100 players outside the NHL and Nathan Gaucher was the 5th best center outside the NHL. He's a 3rd line projected center from the article.

Not a lot of good centers from the last few drafts. They weren't strong drafts. These two coming drafts look very solid. Why not get picks and create some cap space.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jan 19 @ 12:28 PM ET
You’re going to be disappointed after this TDL
- Nucker101

We all are, and I'm prepared for it. I'll still talk about what we should be looking to get.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 19 @ 12:29 PM ET
Even TNT feels sorry for Bruce, they’re letting Tocchet out early
- Nucker101

Getting Tocchet is only going to make me angrier at this team
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 19 @ 12:30 PM ET
Literally the same poop as last TDL with Miller, Rutherford expecting to young great players from the other team. It's pretty clear teams aren't going to do it.

I looked at hockey writers top 100 players outside the NHL and Nathan Gaucher was the 5th best center outside the NHL. He's a 3rd line projected center from the article.

Not a lot of good centers from the last few drafts. They weren't strong drafts. These two coming drafts look very solid. Why not get picks and create some cap space.

- manvanfan


Would you trade Lekk and Klimovich for either 1 of Ostlund/Kulich?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 19 @ 12:30 PM ET
We all are, and I'm prepared for it. I'll still talk about what we should be looking to get.
- Retinalz

Fair enough
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 19 @ 12:33 PM ET
Would you trade Lekk and Klimovich for either 1 of Ostlund/Kulich?
- Nucker101

I had Ostlund 1 spot ahead of Lekkerimaki so that's really a wash. I would probably trade Klimovich for Kulich.

Klimovich is one of very few Canucks wingers that has size and has shown a willingness to use it once in a while though.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jan 19 @ 12:33 PM ET
Getting Tocchet is only going to make me angrier at this team
- manvanfan


As long as they continue to lose this year, then I don't care. If he comes in and they start winning enough to have management think they've fixed things, I'm gonna be pissed
canucksfan1944
Joined: 12.13.2016

Jan 19 @ 12:36 PM ET
Getting Tocchet is only going to make me angrier at this team
- manvanfan


I think its part of the ploy to get OEL to waive at the trade deadline.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jan 19 @ 12:37 PM ET
I think its part of the ploy to get OEL to waive at the trade deadline.
- canucksfan1944

OEL can waive to 31 teams, we still aren't able to trade him...
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 19 @ 12:42 PM ET
As long as they continue to lose this year, then I don't care. If he comes in and they start winning enough to have management think they've fixed things, I'm gonna be pissed
- NewYorkNuck

Why not wait till the off season to be able to take a look at everybody.

Asst coaches, AHL coaches, Junior coaches.

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 19 @ 12:43 PM ET
Getting Tocchet is only going to make me angrier at this team
- manvanfan

I would’ve just let Bruce ride off into the sunset and continue this entertaining tank but JR continuing to criticize him and already talking to his replacements months ago left them no choice.

Let’s see how the Vancouver Penguins do minus Crosby + Malkin + Letang

Edit: or fire Bruce and just let Yeo take over as interim coach
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 19 @ 12:44 PM ET
I had Ostlund 1 spot ahead of Lekkerimaki so that's really a wash. I would probably trade Klimovich for Kulich.

Klimovich is one of very few Canucks wingers that has size and has shown a willingness to use it once in a while though.

- manvanfan


I’d trade both for Kulich
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 19 @ 12:44 PM ET
I think its part of the ploy to get OEL to waive at the trade deadline.
- canucksfan1944


And I’m sure teams are just lining up to trade for him
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jan 19 @ 12:51 PM ET
I would’ve just let Bruce ride off into the sunset and continue this entertaining tank but JR continuing to criticize him and already talking to his replacements months ago left them no choice.

Let’s see how the Vancouver Penguins do minus Crosby + Malkin + Letang

Edit: or fire Bruce and just let Yeo take over as interim coach

- Nucker101


Hear some chirping FA hasn't approved a coaching change.

So much for Rutherford's autonomy!
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 19 @ 1:03 PM ET
I would’ve just let Bruce ride off into the sunset and continue this entertaining tank but JR continuing to criticize him and already talking to his replacements months ago left them no choice.

Let’s see how the Vancouver Penguins do minus Crosby + Malkin + Letang

Edit: or fire Bruce and just let Yeo take over as interim coach

- Nucker101

Well heard Tocchet is going to bring in some of his own coaches as well. They just signed Yeo. I don't know if Cull got an extension. I doubt King is staying then too.

Team going to be paying more coaches than players soon.
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