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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 22 @ 10:14 AM ET
Patrick Johnston

@risingaction
Kuzmenko needs one more goal to hit his first Schedule A bonus on his ELC

Canucks are operating in LTI, so - like with the Halak bonus last season - any performance bonuses incurred will rollover to next season’s cap sheet.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jan 22 @ 10:16 AM ET
I agree, just like he did with sad sacked Edmonton and Toronto. It’s definitely happening.
- K-man25


Exactly. The pooptiest places with the most needy fanbases get the rewards
Quinn's Quest
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 08.08.2022

Jan 22 @ 10:18 AM ET
So another decade of re-tooling?
- manvanfan


Doesn’t mean there won’t be draft picks added to these trades. As long Canuck futures aren’t traded out there is some rebuilding.

JR did use the word major surgery. So there might be some moves that are rebuild like. I don’t know it’s a juggling act in the end lol.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 22 @ 10:40 AM ET
Doesn’t mean there won’t be draft picks added to these trades. As long Canuck futures aren’t traded out there is some rebuilding. He did use major surgery. So there might be some things that help.
- Quinn's Quest

Rutherford did say they weren't too interested in futures. It's not even just the draft picks anymore, after last draft does anyone even believe in the scouting to make the right draft picks with more and more wingers being picked with the continuous need for centers and defence.
claygolf83
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Red Deer, AB
Joined: 02.06.2010

Jan 22 @ 10:53 AM ET
Watching that presser this morning was rough. From the human element watching a fellow human being treated the way Bruce has been by upper management in today's day and age is inconceivable.

When the $$ and fans stop showing up is only when this will get better.

Good luck to Rick Tocchet and crew, but rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic again will more than likely end the same way as his predecessors.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jan 22 @ 10:58 AM ET
Watching that presser this morning was rough. From the human element watching a fellow human being treated the way Bruce has been by upper management in today's day and age is inconceivable.

When the $$ and fans stop showing up is only when this will get better.

Good luck to Rick Tocchet and crew, but rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic again will more than likely end the same way as his predecessors.

- claygolf83


I'm really interested to see – if this thing doesn't get turned around – how Aqau will get out of it. How much leash does he give Ruthy and Allvin? If ticket sales and money goes down over the next 2 years... does he continue on? 3 years? 5 years? How does he fire them without taking the blunt of all the blame?

Everything changes if this organization turns it around in the next couple seasons, but I don't think many of us see that as likely.
Quinn's Quest
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 08.08.2022

Jan 22 @ 11:00 AM ET
Rutherford did say they weren't too interested in futures. It's not even just the draft picks anymore, after last draft does anyone even believe in the scouting to make the right draft picks with more and more wingers being picked with the continuous need for centers and defence.
- manvanfan


Well yeah they do have their own picks for now. Might add some along with what they like in prospects or reclamation players.

As for drafting it was not what we wanted. But years from now they may fit or be exchanged for needs.

I don’t have confidence in anything they do. But I can’t predict the future either. This franchise might catch a break and be gifted the right pieces when they draft.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 22 @ 11:09 AM ET
40 already for McDavid, kids gonna score 60.
- LeftCoaster

He's on a mission for the triple crown.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 22 @ 11:13 AM ET
Let’s put this in perspective, Tocchet’s best career coaching year gave him a 53% win average. He’s a career .400 coach and we think that’s magically gonna change. Welcome to the tire fire. We’re going from bad to worse.
- I-own_da-Northwest

lol on the HNIC broadcast last night they said Boudreau's reg. season win % is second only to Scotty Bowman. No Motte, D!ckenson Highmore Lammiko our bottom 6 currently looks less than AHL quality. Lazar looks lost out there and looks like he misses Boston lol.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 22 @ 11:14 AM ET
Well yeah they do have their own picks for now. Might add some along with what they like in prospects or reclamation players.

As for drafting it was not what we wanted. But years from now they may fit or be exchanged for needs.

I don’t have confidence in anything they do. But I can’t predict the future either. This franchise might catch a break and be gifted the right pieces when they draft.

- Quinn's Quest

That's what I've been saying for a while about this management, they need other GM's to throw them life lines to do anything good.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 22 @ 11:18 AM ET
So that set of games went well lol… remember before they signed JTM that character thing was thought about him. But they screwed up by not trading him. Now they may get more for Bo. Who funny enough was not thought of as anything more then a 5-6M long term extension. But 99pnt career year man JTM gets the money bag. Then all hell breaks loose after the team flop to start the season. This group just digs its own grave.

#sell #rebuild

- Quinn's Quest

Three top centres in Miller Horvat and Pettersson looks like now they have no interest in winning games. Maybe they all want out. Miller with his little tantrum on the bench after the Oilers went ahead again and Bo/Petey look uninterested. Our bottom 6 look atrocious but hey, there are all cheap salaries lol. MNGT needs to address the D and even though Bear wouldn't have brought much to the lineup last night, we miss the right hand shot badly. Martin and Delia look like they should be below the AHL.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 22 @ 11:20 AM ET
Watching that presser this morning was rough. From the human element watching a fellow human being treated the way Bruce has been by upper management in today's day and age is inconceivable.

When the $$ and fans stop showing up is only when this will get better.

Good luck to Rick Tocchet and crew, but rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic again will more than likely end the same way as his predecessors.

- claygolf83

When the seats are empty and no one is buying beer, food, paying for parking etc then MAYBE Aquilini will see what needs to be done. But we all know a change of ownership is what the franchise needs badly.

On another note very happy for RNH he is quietly having his best season in the NHL.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 22 @ 11:21 AM ET
Michael Russo

@RussoHockey
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15m
Hearing that #canucks coach Bruce Boudreau has been called into a meeting at 9:30 this morning
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 22 @ 11:22 AM ET
Michael Russo

@RussoHockey
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15m
Hearing that #canucks coach Bruce Boudreau has been called into a meeting at 9:30 this morning

- manvanfan



With the Bobs?
Quinn's Quest
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 08.08.2022

Jan 22 @ 11:29 AM ET
I'm really interested to see – if this thing doesn't get turned around – how Aqau will get out of it. How much leash does he give Ruthy and Allvin? If ticket sales and money goes down over the next 2 years... does he continue on? 3 years? 5 years? How does he fire them without taking the blunt of all the blame?

Everything changes if this organization turns it around in the next couple seasons, but I don't think many of us see that as likely.

- NewYorkNuck


Sad fact owners don’t need to be popular or accountable. Many teams had sh!t owners who didn’t want to spend etc. Nothing changed until they died or sold because they wanted the profit.

Whatever FA decides to do or not you’re right that results matter. This is why they are so focused to win. But they can build toward that. It’s not an aging core situation. Maybe why they’re on the total rebuild focus. Young players for the most part, just not the right mix, and with major holes on D. So to be a balanced well run team there needs to be discipline and commitment. They will get one draft and some trades now. Will it be enough? Your guess is as good as anyone’s.

At least the Kuzmenko pick up is found money that can go a long way. The agent is happy cause his client will cash in somewhere as he was given the opportunities to shine. This might allow more such pieces to come. Roster spots are open come prove your worth.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jan 22 @ 11:34 AM ET
A big FU to FA & JR.

Michael Russo
@RussoHockey
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26m
Hearing that #canucks coach Bruce Boudreau has been called into a meeting at 9:30 this morning
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 22 @ 11:37 AM ET
A big FU to FA & JR.

Michael Russo
@RussoHockey
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26m
Hearing that #canucks coach Bruce Boudreau has been called into a meeting at 9:30 this morning

- VanHockeyGuy

Minivan beat you to it...

Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Jan 22 @ 11:41 AM ET
A big FU to FA & JR.

Michael Russo
@RussoHockey
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26m
Hearing that #canucks coach Bruce Boudreau has been called into a meeting at 9:30 this morning

- VanHockeyGuy


On Hate Sunday of all days.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 22 @ 11:46 AM ET
You don't bother to listen to Rutherford when he says he has no interest in a rebuild?
- manvanfan

He won’t have a Choice when Pouty leaves
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jan 22 @ 11:51 AM ET
On Hate Sunday of all days.
- Load Management


I get it's a results based business. The way FA & JR handled this was pathetic. I've lost what little respect I ever had for this organization. That said I'm also a believer in Karma.
Quinn's Quest
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 08.08.2022

Jan 22 @ 11:55 AM ET
Three top centres in Miller Horvat and Pettersson looks like now they have no interest in winning games. Maybe they all want out. Miller with his little tantrum on the bench after the Oilers went ahead again and Bo/Petey look uninterested. Our bottom 6 look atrocious but hey, there are all cheap salaries lol. MNGT needs to address the D and even though Bear wouldn't have brought much to the lineup last night, we miss the right hand shot badly. Martin and Delia look like they should be below the AHL.
- LordHumungous


Yes the fix on D is challenging and why core piece trades will be needed. Then also getting rid of some D too. Drafting will take years. By then there will be a new core.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jan 22 @ 11:55 AM ET
He won’t have a Choice when Pouty leaves
- CanuckDon


Who cares?
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jan 22 @ 11:59 AM ET
From Twitter


If I’m Bruce I show up to that meeting wearing a wife beater and board shorts sipping whiskey from a flask and light up a joint all while staring them straight in the face. When the meeting is over I take some pens and a stapler and leave without a word.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 22 @ 11:59 AM ET
On Hate Sunday of all days.
- Load Management

Luv it!!
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jan 22 @ 12:02 PM ET
Luv it!!
- LeftCoaster


Get lost dish pig.
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