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LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 22 @ 11:10 PM ET
Ever since David Crosby has died, shit has gotten very real. Preach, brother.
- Marwood

Is that Sidney’s dad?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 22 @ 11:28 PM ET
Yotes 4-1 support the tank
- Nighthawk

Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 22 @ 11:31 PM ET

- Nucker101


Your boy Eichel has been pretty meh of late.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 22 @ 11:32 PM ET
Your boy Eichel has been pretty meh of late.
- Reubenkincade


Yes
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 22 @ 11:34 PM ET



9 cents per dollar actually goes to the kids in the Canucks for kids charity. I’ve donated $50 to them before so this sucks to find out the kids only got $4.50 of my $50
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 22 @ 11:38 PM ET
Is that Sidney’s dad?
- LeftCoaster

That was Bing Crosby
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 22 @ 11:46 PM ET



9 cents per dollar actually goes to the kids in the Canucks for kids charity. I’ve donated $50 to them before so this sucks to find out the kids only got $4.50 of my $50

- Nucker101

I’ve an inherent distrust for charities for that very reason. Imo by law there should be full disclosure of what actually goes to the charity in question before asking or receiving.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 22 @ 11:58 PM ET



9 cents per dollar actually goes to the kids in the Canucks for kids charity. I’ve donated $50 to them before so this sucks to find out the kids only got $4.50 of my $50

- Nucker101


I am sure the Aquilini family gets use the money donated as a tax write off, as well as place several of their friends in paid positions.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 23 @ 12:16 AM ET
I’ve an inherent distrust for charities for that very reason. Imo by law there should be full disclosure of what actually goes to the charity in question before asking or receiving.
- Nighthawk

Good. More people should.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 23 @ 12:21 AM ET
Is that Sidney’s dad?
- LeftCoaster



His daddy's name is Sugar.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 23 @ 1:54 AM ET
Just saw most of todays presser. Sure wasn’t what I expected after 1st reading the bs served up in here. The drama & whining & spin doctoring in here would make a media outlet proud.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jan 23 @ 1:58 AM ET
Just saw most of todays presser. Sure wasn’t what I expected after 1st reading the bs served up in here. The drama & whining & spin doctoring in here would make a media outlet proud.
- Nighthawk

I actually liked the hint of smugness when JR said "I know more than you". And though Bruce wasn't handled very well, I do think that the media must take partial responsibility.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 23 @ 2:00 AM ET
I actually liked the hint of smugness when JR said "I know more than you". And though Bruce wasn't handled very well, I do think that the media must take partial responsibility.
- Retinalz

Shot across the bow indeed 👍

The media doesn’t care. They all hide together under their imagined cloak of impunity. Journalism isn’t what it once was not even close.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 23 @ 2:03 AM ET
Some in here 1 in particular he who shall not be named have one & only one purpose. Trolling aka sucking up.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jan 23 @ 5:14 AM ET
On Sunday, in the latest skirmish, new head coach Rick Tocchet flanked general manager Patrik Allvin and president of hockey operations Jim Rutherford at an introductory press conference at Rogers Arena. It was Allvin who kicked off the proceedings.

“As of this morning,” Allvin began, “I decided to do a coaching change here with the Vancouver Canucks.”

It was an unconvincing beginning, which was underlined further when Tocchet noted that he’d had a conversation with Henrik and Daniel Sedin on Saturday.

Everybody knows that the decision to fire Boudreau wasn’t made on Sunday. This has been obvious and well reported and inevitable for a while. Why not own that?


NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jan 23 @ 9:23 AM ET
More and more national media stepping in

Weekend NHL rankings: The Bruce Boudreau debacle gets a pathetic final chapter
By Sean McIndoe


No bonus top five this week because I’m cranky. Instead, I’m going to ask you to let me vent for a bit.

I’m a bit of an NHL history buff. You may have picked up on that based on roughly half the columns I post here. I also wrote a book on the subject. I’m not an expert, but I feel like I know my stuff.

I’ve never seen anything like this Bruce Boudreau story.

Never. And I lived through the era of Harold Ballard, an owner so mean and awful that he once asked Roger Neilson to wear a paper bag over his head. Neilson told him to get stuffed, and Ballard backed down because even the worst of the worst are still capable of realizing when they’ve gone too far.

The Canucks went too far. Way too far. Their treatment of Boudreau over the last few months went from comical to bizarre to outright cruel, which is where it’s been for weeks now. Yesterday’s announcement of the inevitable was just one last act in a bad farce. The way this was handled makes Gerard Gallant’s infamous taxi look like a stretch limo.

Look, coaches get fired. It’s never pleasant, but it happens, to almost everyone, and it’s part of the game. You could absolutely make the case that Boudreau deserved a pink slip based on how this season went, or at least that the coach taking the fall for a flawed roster would be the standard operating procedure in plenty of places around the league. That’s fine. Maybe Rick Tocchet will be the better fit.

But there’s no reason to do it like this. None. We’ve known the coaching change was coming. We knew who’d be replacing him. The exact date it would happen leaked out a while ago. And yet the team still sent Boudreau out there, night after night, as dead coach walking. Just fire him! If Tocchet can’t take the job right away because of TV commitments or whatever, then let Mike Yeo run the bench for a few games on an interim basis. There’s no reason to let a respected coach with over 600 career wins who almost saved your season last year twist in the wind like this. No reason to have Jim Rutherford periodically show up to kick him when he’s down. No reason to send him out there for what everyone knew would be his final games, then watch him have to clarify to the media that he hadn’t actually been fired yet.

If there’s a positive in any of this, it’s that the last part at least allowed Vancouver fans to step up to the plate. Their final Bruce chant, and Boudreau’s reaction to it, was a genuinely touching moment, even if it should have never happened.

Seriously, what does the Canucks’ organization gain from this? Possibly a coaching upgrade, although that remains to be seen. Beyond that, it’s hard to imagine the purpose behind all of this. Maybe there’s some behind-the-scenes grudge. Maybe Rutherford, or ownership, or (tries to remember the name of that GM who hasn’t been seen in months) Patrik Allvin genuinely hates the guy. Maybe they thought their weird excuses and quasi-apologies would actually land. Maybe they’re in the increasingly large group these days that mistakes cruelty and pettiness for bold leadership. I have no idea.

What I do know is that the Canucks look awful in all of this. Drance gets into some of the bigger picture stuff here, and he nails it in one key sentence: “the way an organization treats people matters”. The fans are ticked off. The Province reported that the players are too, and this could impact the Canucks ability to resign key pieces or attract free agents. And around the hockey world, all anyone can do is shake their heads and wonder how it came to this.

And if that’s not enough, this guy is ready to put someone through a table.

I’ve never met Boudreau, and I’m not going to pretend I know he’s some great guy based on his public persona. But the mere fact that he has a public persona is worth something, especially in a league where all we see most coaches do is stare at iPads after goals, grunt out dismissive non-answers at press conferences, and bag skate their teams after 5-4 wins. Boudreau always seemed like he enjoyed his job, and understood that he was in the entertainment business. He even seemed to be, dare we say it, having fun.

Maybe that’s why he had to be publicly humiliated and cast aside. Maybe it’s something else. Maybe it’s no reason at all, other than Rutherford or whoever realized that they could.

Good luck to Rick Tocchet. Hell of an organization you’re stepping into there, coach.


Would love to know what's going on in Aqua's head around all this
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jan 23 @ 9:52 AM ET
In fairness to Rick Tocchet, his total lack of success in previous head coaching roles were with really really bad rosters in dysfunctional organizations.

This is a totally different situation!


LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 23 @ 9:57 AM ET

- NewYorkNuck

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 23 @ 10:40 AM ET
I think the FA is in deep trouble with law enforcement, trump waged war on child trafficking, drug dealers, criminal activity when he got elected. I think JR and PA got interrogated by the patriots and placed there to expose them before the hammer drops, they hired RT who is a trump supporter, all these things add up.
- Bettmanhatesus

There is no deep state. Wake up.

Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 23 @ 10:40 AM ET

- NewYorkNuck



LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 23 @ 10:41 AM ET
I’ve an inherent distrust for charities for that very reason. Imo by law there should be full disclosure of what actually goes to the charity in question before asking or receiving.
- Nighthawk

Tim Hortons charities are very much on the level.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 23 @ 10:43 AM ET
Some in here 1 in particular he who shall not be named have one & only one purpose. Trolling aka sucking up.
- Nighthawk

And since you are the 'roster' guy what it is that you suck on?

bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jan 23 @ 10:48 AM ET
More and more national media stepping in

Would love to know what's going on in Aqua's head around all this

- NewYorkNuck


This article gave me a few laughs:

https://dailyhive.com/van...t-deletes-twitter-account

Why anyone in the public’s spotlight has a Twitter account is beyond me. If you need to manage your public image, you can’t be spewing unfiltered. Twitter is too spontaneous and emotional. Way too many times people post stuff without thinking it through.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jan 23 @ 10:58 AM ET

- NewYorkNuck

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 23 @ 11:14 AM ET
Pierre LeBrun

@PierreVLeBrun
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Hearing Rick Tocchet’s salary is $2.75M per year, signed through 2024-25 season. Canucks also still paying Bruce Boudreau $2M this season and Travis Green $2.75M this season.

You can't say that FA isn't willing to spend to help the team win.
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