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K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Jan 24 @ 5:23 PM ET
Not gonna happen
- NewYorkNuck

Yeah that’s out there for sure.
Can’t see
Francis walking away from a potential top centerman that’s 19 years old for Bo Scorevat. Then to add on top of that.
Seattle is in their 2nd year of existence, don’t think we see to much there. But hey wtf do we know?
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Jan 24 @ 5:31 PM ET
Do it Brooksie!!




- LordHumungous


As long as it doesn't contain any content on how to properly defend a 2 on 1.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Jan 24 @ 5:32 PM ET
Wtf are you going on about?
- Reubenkincade

K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Jan 24 @ 5:33 PM ET
Cheeseburger fries & Diet Coke pls
- Nighthawk

Youlll have to order from Lefty, he’s the restaurant dude.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 24 @ 5:44 PM ET
Will you be guzzling the diet coke, or slurping it?
- Reubenkincade

Marinate my steak lol

The term slurper & guzzler I don’t buy into. Too childish even for me lol

It applies to the fans who listen to media.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 24 @ 6:03 PM ET
Forgive the rant, but it's been building. Been out of town for a while, back in BC in the belly of the beast.

Yes the media globbed on extra hard to the Boudreau firing, but it's not like the misstep was isolated. It is media after all. The best stories for them are those that tug on the heartstrings. It's not hard to see why images of the loveable BB were being cast all over the regular news, let alone sports news. It was still embarrassing and a stain on an organization that has so many lately, it really needs a change of shirt.

My wish: they sign Bo. Convince him the rebuild is on, but you are part of the core. A tough sell I know, but stay with me a moment. Trade Miller for a bag of pucks for all I care. That asset has already been mismanaged so just consider it a loss and write it off - if you can get out from under the contract. Package a pick or a younger reclamation project with him (maybe Hogs) and take whatever you can get.

This organization has turned a total blind eye to it's fans. Many hate Miller and a lot at least don't like him. That is absurd and should tell you right away there's a problem. How many 100 point players has this organization had ... not many. How many were disliked to the degree Miller is, I'd argue none. He's not what this fan base wants their team built around. There were signs before he came to Vancouver. Now that things aren't going well, he shows his true colours.

The entire D core needs overhauling. It's going to take time, and some deals and some luck and some signings. Use Kuz and Hughes as your chips, maybe Garland and Schenn get you something as well. Imho, Rathbone isn't much of a downgrade to the way Hughes plays right now ... but I think Hughes' value is still there with his stats, the fact he's signed and basically carried a lot of dead weight. Maybe NJ marketing gets so pysched on the potential of the brothers hughes. Then ... tankville. Like OEL & Myers on the top pairing kind of tank. See what we get draftwise. Go UFA for a reliable D or two after next year. I honestly think things don't change much until Myers is off the books 2023-24. OEL ... all we can hope there is the knee doesn't hold up. Crumby thing to wish for the person, but that's the salary cap for ya.

I'm sick of them completely mistreating the good guys. Linden was as embraced by any player in a city, and I think the only reason he came anywhere near the arena was Gino ... and I don't think there will be many more reasons big enough that he'll want to come back again. I don't hear much about the Sedins anymore but if they get lumped in with this era of mismanagement, I bet it doesn't take long for Aquilini to throw them under the bus as well. This management / ownership seems so out of touch, they might as well throw Messier up in the ring of honour. Maybe Horvat isn't the best captain, but he's sure showing what he can do now as a player and we're going to watch him excel elsewhere I bet. This movie has played over and over for canuck fans.

This is just another take on things. I've been in the trade everything (Bo included) for over a year now. Trades just don't seem to happen like they used to and it's hard to imagine us coming out anywhere on top. We had the chance with Miller last year and we blew it, twice. It might be time for them to admit they bet on the wrong pony, take their medicine and move forward.

- Sayros

How can you possibly be ok with this teams culture? Bo is part of the problem. And of fans don’t like Miller. Vancouver goes crazy for meek players. Quieter and softer the better. #canuckfansgetwhattheydeserve
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 24 @ 6:14 PM ET
As long as it doesn't contain any content on how to properly defend a 2 on 1.
- Load Management



Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 24 @ 6:20 PM ET
How can you possibly be ok with this teams culture? Bo is part of the problem. And of fans don’t like Miller. Vancouver goes crazy for meek players. Quieter and softer the better. #canuckfansgetwhattheydeserve
- CanuckDon



LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 24 @ 6:22 PM ET
How can you possibly be ok with this teams culture? Bo is part of the problem. And of fans don’t like Miller. Vancouver goes crazy for meek players. Quieter and softer the better. #canuckfansgetwhattheydeserve
- CanuckDon

Tocchet to whip them into shape?

lol
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jan 24 @ 6:23 PM ET
How can you possibly be ok with this teams culture? Bo is part of the problem. And of fans don’t like Miller. Vancouver goes crazy for meek players. Quieter and softer the better. #canuckfansgetwhattheydeserve
- CanuckDon


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CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 24 @ 6:26 PM ET

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- dbot

👍🏻 it all starts w Bo. Without moving Bo there can’t be a rebuild
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 24 @ 6:28 PM ET
👍🏻 it all starts w Bo. Without moving Bo there can’t be a rebuild
- CanuckDon

Was thinking about that it may be partially true. It's not like Tocchet will be able to turn Bo into the Captain we need. Bo really has to want it.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jan 24 @ 6:31 PM ET
👍🏻 it all starts w Bo. Without moving Bo there can’t be a rebuild
- CanuckDon


Bo is a goner.
Just like Boudreau was.


Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 24 @ 6:33 PM ET
How can you possibly be ok with this teams culture? Bo is part of the problem. And of fans don’t like Miller. Vancouver goes crazy for meek players. Quieter and softer the better. #canuckfansgetwhattheydeserve
- CanuckDon

They cry for this Alpha stuff & whine about soft. Most wanted Bo as C as I probably did. Now that years go bye we see doesn’t lead enough. It’s his team & any C I want grabs a team by the scruff of the neck. He gets pissed off when it’s this bad. This cool calm & collected crap is a part the problem.

Time for a change & it is coming. I never wanted Petey as a C back then but it is his time. He’s shown & proven he gives a bigger shlt than anyone not named Schenn & Bear. Miller acts out sure Miller has bad body language but idgaf cuz I know he hates losing & there isn’t close to enough of that.

It’s high time we get more piss n vinegar needed gets acknowledged & no more of this alpha crap or soft bs. It starts on the ice giving 100% in all things that matter being bust your ass in all 3 zones. On the bench tell anyone to get a fire under your ass.

EVERYONE IS ACCOUNTABLE
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 24 @ 6:35 PM ET
They cry for this Alpha stuff & whine about soft. Most wanted Bo as C as I probably did. Now that years go bye we see doesn’t lead enough. It’s his team & any C I want grabs a team by the scruff of the neck. He gets pissed off when it’s this bad. This cool calm & collected crap is a part the problem.

Time for a change & it is coming. I never wanted Petey as a C back then but it is his time. He’s shown & proven he gives a bigger shlt than anyone not named Schenn & Bear. Miller acts out sure Miller has bad body language but idgaf cuz I know he hates losing & there isn’t close to enough of that.

It’s high time we more piss n vinegar needed gets acknowledged & no more of this alpha crap or soft bs. It starts on the ice giving 100% in all things that matter being bust your ass in all 3 zones. On the bench tell anyone to get a fire under your ass.

EVERYONE IS ACCOUNTABLE

- Nighthawk

Sure.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jan 24 @ 6:38 PM ET
Sure.
- Marwood


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Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 24 @ 6:39 PM ET
They cry for this Alpha stuff & whine about soft. Most wanted Bo as C as I probably did. Now that years go bye we see doesn’t lead enough. It’s his team & any C I want grabs a team by the scruff of the neck. He gets pissed off when it’s this bad. This cool calm & collected crap is a part the problem.

Time for a change & it is coming. I never wanted Petey as a C back then but it is his time. He’s shown & proven he gives a bigger shlt than anyone not named Schenn & Bear. Miller acts out sure Miller has bad body language but idgaf cuz I know he hates losing & there isn’t close to enough of that.

It’s high time we get more piss n vinegar needed gets acknowledged & no more of this alpha crap or soft bs. It starts on the ice giving 100% in all things that matter being bust your ass in all 3 zones. On the bench tell anyone to get a fire under your ass.

EVERYONE IS ACCOUNTABLE

- Nighthawk


You are being incorrigible.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 24 @ 6:39 PM ET
Sure.
- Marwood

It always starts there or they are passengers. Contract size means nada. Winners play hard & go to war.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 24 @ 6:40 PM ET
You are being incorrigible.
- Reubenkincade

Yer rubbing off on me my bad. Take over svp lol
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 24 @ 6:46 PM ET
A bit redundant but there is some stuff in this article.

https://canucksarmy.com/n...ick-tochhets-biggest-test
Sayros
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jan 24 @ 6:51 PM ET
How can you possibly be ok with this teams culture? Bo is part of the problem. And of fans don’t like Miller. Vancouver goes crazy for meek players. Quieter and softer the better. #canuckfansgetwhattheydeserve
- CanuckDon


OK well I'll be more to the point. Miller is a loser and I don't want any part of a rebrand, or whatever the eff they wanna call it, that includes him.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 24 @ 6:52 PM ET
It always starts there or they are passengers. Contract size means nada. Winners play hard & go to war.
- Nighthawk

I was being very sarcastic.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 24 @ 6:53 PM ET
OK well I'll be more to the point. Miller is a loser and I don't want any part of a rebrand, or whatever the eff they wanna call it, that includes him.
- Sayros

Nicely said.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 24 @ 6:54 PM ET
Yeah that’s out there for sure.
Can’t see
Francis walking away from a potential top centerman that’s 19 years old for Bo Scorevat. Then to add on top of that.
Seattle is in their 2nd year of existence, don’t think we see to much there. But hey wtf do we know?

- K-man25

My offer was a huge ask but Wright is more likely to be a 2C. That said Bo has proven he’s a PO beast & adding what is known & he is now is what it’ll boil down to if the Krak get him. The Krak go one of 2-ways imo a big play for need cuz have the assets or stay the course. Being in only in their 2nd year means nothing to me. If it’s Bo they can absorb the price without mortgaging the farm.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 24 @ 7:07 PM ET
OK well I'll be more to the point. Miller is a loser and I don't want any part of a rebrand, or whatever the eff they wanna call it, that includes him.
- Sayros

That’s fair enough but for awhile he is still here & new coaches give it a chance. Hold off then restate your wishes if he’s still an issue. It’s a reset on many levels.
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