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CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 30 @ 10:48 PM ET
This draft huge reach at say 6th. Yes after 12 is a huge guess but it’s cuz so very deep on F’s & no obvious top pair D potential out there. After the 12th plenty of pickings.
- Nighthawk

He reminds me a lot of Seider and no one is questioning that “reach” anymore
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 30 @ 10:49 PM ET
It's not what they think they're getting, it's what they gave up that they're ecstatic about. An underachieving winger, a prospect center that likely wasn't in their plans for the next 3 seasons and a protected first for a 20+ consistent goal scoring center? I'd be ecstatic too.
- DariusKnight

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Lies!!!! 🛀 🧂
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jan 30 @ 10:50 PM ET
I’m glad that’s over but geez, Islander fans going bananas over acquiring Bo. They see him in a totally different light than we do. I don’t follow the Islanders but they must be desperate for a bit of skill down the middle because they be overreacting a tad.

I don’t think they are getting what they think they are getting.

- bloatedmosquito

Oh they`ll realize what they got when he walks on July 1st.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jan 30 @ 10:51 PM ET
Most reaction I’ve seen is they are furious. They are going to miss the playoffs and Bo will walk LMFAO
- CanuckDon


NM. Tried to post a twitter rant of a guy thrilled about the signing. So funny. But when I tried to post the twitter link it all went nuts. Can't do it.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 30 @ 10:52 PM ET
RHD LHD

Simashev is an unknown cuz Russia banned. Could be a gem.

- Nighthawk


I have seen and read a bunch on him, I have no problem taking him. As Donna said, Reinbacher is the guy, no problem taking him in the top 10.

I am thinking the Islander pick could be used to trade down with a team like Buffalo and get another 2nd.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jan 30 @ 10:53 PM ET
DP
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Jan 30 @ 10:56 PM ET
Booner & Reuby for the return of Scooby & Bieksa3
- LeftCoaster

Tough trade… beeker#3 is the worst of the bunch. What a douche that guy was.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 30 @ 10:56 PM ET
That’s a reach. Top 12 a reach imo. Take a C then let D drop.
- Nighthawk


You argued with Vantel and I that Seider was a reach to be a top 10 pick as well.

Iirc you also argued with me when i said Nemec and Jiricek were top 5 picks and you said maybe late 1sts.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 30 @ 10:57 PM ET
I predicted he would get injured and miss the TDL availability....

- boonerbuck

That went south lol
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 30 @ 10:57 PM ET
You argued with Vantel and I that Seider was a reach to be a top 10 pick as well.

Iirc you also argued with me when i said Nemec and Jiricek were top 5 picks and you said maybe late 1sts.

- Reubenkincade

Big centers and D always climb late. Every year
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 30 @ 10:58 PM ET
Just reading some new articles on the Athletic.

“Aatu Raty scouting report

The Isles did well to mine value out of Raty. They took a chance on him in the second round at the draft after his stock plummeted. He bounced back with an excellent, point-per-game post-draft season in Liiga, made the move to North America at 19, made his NHL debut at 20, and has now turned into a tradeable asset.

On the flip side, though, while he’s more of a B or B-plus prospect, his absence will be felt in an Islanders pool that was already among the thinnest in the NHL. He was their clear No. 1 prospect and should become an everyday NHL player. Raty’s a pro-sized forward with good skills of dexterity handling and transporting pucks, and has developed his skating so that he can play with more pace and interior drive. I don’t think he’s dynamic on the puck, nor the smartest player on the ice, but he’s a toolsy player who you’ll notice when he’s on. — Wheeler”
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Jan 30 @ 10:58 PM ET
You argued with Vantel and I that Seider was a reach to be a top 10 pick as well.

Iirc you also argued with me when i said Nemec and Jiricek were top 5 picks and you said maybe late 1sts.

- Reubenkincade


Don GUARANTEED that no Russians would be taken in round 1…he was also very wrong.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 30 @ 10:58 PM ET
He reminds me a lot of Seider and no one is questioning that “reach” anymore
- CanuckDon

I’d wait. Imagine a top 6 then Reinbacher now that would be awesome.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 30 @ 10:59 PM ET
“What’s coming back from a Canucks perspective?

The players that the Canucks are netting in this trade are relatively low-upside pieces. Anthony Beauvilier is a hard-working, somewhat expensive middle-six caliber winger. He’s been widely available on the trade block dating back to this offseason. Beauvillier is a nice player. He’s got some speed and creativity, but he isn’t a top-line caliber contributor. He also plays a position at which the Canucks are loaded (both from a cap commitment and from a talent perspective). Aatu Raty is a high-pedigree 20-year-old center capable of playing a major NHL role right now.

For a team intent on transitioning the club for the present and future all at once, that’s an acquisition that makes a ton of sense. The knock on Raty is that he’s seen as a safe bet to be an impactful NHL player, but with only a marginal chance of developing into a star player.

Granted that’s something that was said about Horvat himself when he was 20 years old, but for a team that’s insisted they’re prioritizing young players, Raty seems like a relatively low-upside centerpiece for a Horvat trade. All of that said, Raty isn’t really the centerpiece of this deal. The prime asset the club has returned is the first-round pick — top-12 protected in 2023, according to The Athletic’s Pierre LeBrun, which would convert to the 2024 draft class completely unprotected if it falls in the top-12 this season.

That’s the best part of this deal from a Canucks’ perspective, by far. They’ve bought a significant fade position on an Islanders team that’s aging, has limited cap flexibility and has only barely outperformed the Canucks themselves by point percentage over the past two seasons. That’s precisely the sort of chip the club should’ve prioritized landing in a Horvat trade. And they’ve done so. — Drance”
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 30 @ 11:01 PM ET
Oh they`ll realize what they got when he walks on July 1st.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Bo gets injured then what? 😂😂
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 30 @ 11:02 PM ET
He reminds me a lot of Seider and no one is questioning that “reach” anymore
- CanuckDon


I posted about him a few months ago and got the same rea tion. The guy is going to be a floor of a top 4 and should be a #1 D.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 30 @ 11:03 PM ET
You argued with Vantel and I that Seider was a reach to be a top 10 pick as well.

Iirc you also argued with me when i said Nemec and Jiricek were top 5 picks and you said maybe late 1sts.

- Reubenkincade

Yes wrong on the former.

Never said that on the latter to the contrary I wanted both.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 30 @ 11:04 PM ET
Big centers and D always climb late. Every year
- CanuckDon

The Swede has jumped but I don’t buy it. I like Reino & Simo better.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 30 @ 11:04 PM ET
Big centers and D always climb late. Every year
- CanuckDon


Yup.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jan 30 @ 11:06 PM ET
Bo gets injured then what? 😂😂
- Nighthawk

He`ll limp.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 30 @ 11:06 PM ET
Don GUARANTEED that no Russians would be taken in round 1…he was also very wrong.
- TurdFergeson

I was pretty (frank)ing close. They all fell hard you twat
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 30 @ 11:07 PM ET
“What’s coming back from a Canucks perspective?

The players that the Canucks are netting in this trade are relatively low-upside pieces. Anthony Beauvilier is a hard-working, somewhat expensive middle-six caliber winger. He’s been widely available on the trade block dating back to this offseason. Beauvillier is a nice player. He’s got some speed and creativity, but he isn’t a top-line caliber contributor. He also plays a position at which the Canucks are loaded (both from a cap commitment and from a talent perspective). Aatu Raty is a high-pedigree 20-year-old center capable of playing a major NHL role right now.

For a team intent on transitioning the club for the present and future all at once, that’s an acquisition that makes a ton of sense. The knock on Raty is that he’s seen as a safe bet to be an impactful NHL player, but with only a marginal chance of developing into a star player.

Granted that’s something that was said about Horvat himself when he was 20 years old, but for a team that’s insisted they’re prioritizing young players, Raty seems like a relatively low-upside centerpiece for a Horvat trade. All of that said, Raty isn’t really the centerpiece of this deal. The prime asset the club has returned is the first-round pick — top-12 protected in 2023, according to The Athletic’s Pierre LeBrun, which would convert to the 2024 draft class completely unprotected if it falls in the top-12 this season.

That’s the best part of this deal from a Canucks’ perspective, by far. They’ve bought a significant fade position on an Islanders team that’s aging, has limited cap flexibility and has only barely outperformed the Canucks themselves by point percentage over the past two seasons. That’s precisely the sort of chip the club should’ve prioritized landing in a Horvat trade. And they’ve done so. — Drance”

- LeftCoaster

True on Beau I peg him as a mid 6 winger & to make the cap work. Better than getting Bailey who LL wanted to move out.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 30 @ 11:08 PM ET
Makes Hog more of an after thought til he learns D better & gets his scoring going in the AHL.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 30 @ 11:08 PM ET
I posted about him a few months ago and got the same rea tion. The guy is going to be a floor of a top 4 and should be a #1 D.
- Reubenkincade

👍🏻 man he was fun to watch at the WJC
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 30 @ 11:09 PM ET
I posted about him a few months ago and got the same rea tion. The guy is going to be a floor of a top 4 and should be a #1 D.
- Reubenkincade

That’s a bold claim wow lol
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