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carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006
Feb 1 @ 7:02 PM ET

Droolishous
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008
Feb 1 @ 7:05 PM ET
Name them. There are only a handful of 1D that can do what Hughes does.
- Retinalz


hyperbole aside, I would actually be interested to see a list of better Dmen that can do what Hughes does but is better defensively and is a big Pk'er.

i'd guess there are 5-8?
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006
Feb 1 @ 7:05 PM ET

Another great BBQ guy for all meats as well, Mad BBQ Scientist. My favorite chicken, this happens on my smoker every week.
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006
Feb 1 @ 7:07 PM ET
Name them. There are only a handful of 1D that can do what Hughes does.
- Retinalz

Great Dman to have when you also have a Hedman type true #1.Hughes by himself playing as a #1 gets exposed for what he is.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015
Feb 1 @ 7:08 PM ET
How is that even possible, Hughes is 7th in scoring among defensemen. Right off the bat, you only have 6 teams with a defensemen that scores as much as Hughes does.

He is also 2nd in PP points among defensemen. Can't name 28 teams there either.

He is 25th among all defence in 5v5 goals for vs goals against. Some of those ahead are playing 5 less 5v5 minutes per game too. For D that play 18 minutes or more (64) of them he is 10th.

15th in take aways per 60 among D that play 18 minutes or more per game but 104th in giveaways per 60.
- manvanfan

As i've mentioned before. So many people here hate on our players simply because they are Canucks and the team as a whole are doing poorly. Hughes is part of the solution, not the problem.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010
Feb 1 @ 7:09 PM ET
Poolparty is a reclamation project. Any interest from Canucks?
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006
Feb 1 @ 7:10 PM ET
As i've mentioned before. So many people here hate on our players simply because they are Canucks and the team as a whole are doing poorly. Hughes is part of the solution, not the problem.
- Retinalz

Great offensive Dman on a good team. The wrong dman on a team that can't play D.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010
Feb 1 @ 7:10 PM ET
As i've mentioned before. So many people here hate on our players simply because they are Canucks and the team as a whole are doing poorly. Hughes is part of the solution, not the problem.
- Retinalz


How did you feel about moving Horvat?
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012
Feb 1 @ 7:10 PM ET
As i've mentioned before. So many people here hate on our players simply because they are Canucks and the team as a whole are doing poorly. Hughes is part of the solution, not the problem.
- Retinalz


Well see how he fits into Tocchet's plan.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008
Feb 1 @ 7:10 PM ET
As i've mentioned before. So many people here hate on our players simply because they are Canucks and the team as a whole are doing poorly. Hughes is part of the solution, not the problem.
- Retinalz


This.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015
Feb 1 @ 7:10 PM ET
Great Dman to have when you also have a Hedman type true #1.Hughes by himself playing as a #1 gets exposed for what he is.
- carsonagenic

Hedman is generational, same with Makar. To hate on Hughes simply because he isn't a generational talent is moronic. Hughes is more effective with a Schenn type partner, but he makes Schenn/Bear better, not the other way around. Schenn will get us a 2nd and it largely thanks to Hughes.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014
Feb 1 @ 7:11 PM ET
Poolparty is a reclamation project. Any interest from Canucks?
- VANTEL

Would they take hughes contract back?
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006
Feb 1 @ 7:11 PM ET
Poolparty is a reclamation project. Any interest from Canucks?
- VANTEL

I have floated that many times. Not anywhere near worth his draft position, by a solid numbers guy on a 3rd line.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010
Feb 1 @ 7:11 PM ET
Would they take hughes contract back?
- CanuckDon
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016
Feb 1 @ 7:11 PM ET
Poolparty is a reclamation project. Any interest from Canucks?
- VANTEL


Is he a defenseman?
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015
Feb 1 @ 7:12 PM ET
How did you feel about moving Horvat?
- VANTEL

Great. I like the return in Raty and a 1st. Beau is meh, but next years TDL he can probably get us a 2nd or more. We need to reset the team and he is the first domino. Now to trade Boeser and Miller.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010
Feb 1 @ 7:13 PM ET
I have floated that many times. Not anywhere near worth his draft position, by a solid numbers guy on a 3rd line.
- carsonagenic


Can we interest Holland in Boeser? Probably not.
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006
Feb 1 @ 7:14 PM ET
Hedman is generational, same with Makar. To hate on Hughes simply because he isn't a generational talent is moronic. Hughes is more effective with a Schenn type partner, but he makes Schenn/Bear better, not the other way around. Schenn will get us a 2nd and it largely thanks to Hughes.
- Retinalz

I don't hate on him, never have, so not moronic.
He is just not the type of dman that the Canucks need at the moment. They have 0 structure, so have a rover D man, by definition means non structured player.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014
Feb 1 @ 7:14 PM ET
You build from the wings out. Everyone knows this...

- boonerbuck


Truth
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006
Feb 1 @ 7:15 PM ET
Can we interest Holland in Boeser? Probably not.
- VANTEL

No cash.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008
Feb 1 @ 7:15 PM ET
Would they take hughes contract back?
- CanuckDon


Nurse and Hughes would be a pretty wicked D combo tbh.
Expensive, but deadly.

Hughes and Boeser
For
Drai and Poolparty
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006
Feb 1 @ 7:16 PM ET
Nurse and Hughes would be a pretty wicked D combo tbh.
Expensive, but deadly.

Hughes and Boeser
For
Drai and Poolparty
- dbot

In the category of never happen....
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010
Feb 1 @ 7:17 PM ET
Great. I like the return in Raty and a 1st. Beau is meh, but next years TDL he can probably get us a 2nd or more. We need to reset the team and he is the first domino. Now to trade Boeser and Miller.
- Retinalz


My point was more that Bo had great numbers, top line center, was part of what helped Canucks win games, still young. Not much different than the fans wanting to move Hughes.

If you were happy to move Bo then it is not any different that the fans that want to move Hughes.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012
Feb 1 @ 7:17 PM ET
hyperbole aside, I would actually be interested to see a list of better Dmen that can do what Hughes does but is better defensively and is a big Pk'er.

i'd guess there are 5-8?
- dbot

Makar 2:48
Fox 2:11
Dahlin 1:36
Montour 1:07
Hughes :59
Josi :55
Morrissey :23
Hamilton :16
Karlsson :13
Heiskanen 1:59

Small sample, those are the top 10 D in scoring in the NHL right now and there shorthand TOI per game.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012
Feb 1 @ 7:18 PM ET
Poolparty is a reclamation project. Any interest from Canucks?
- VANTEL

He's a Tocchet type of winger from what I've heard. Rathbone for Poolparty?
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