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spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Feb 12 @ 6:40 PM ET
Some Leaf fans insist that Greig was being disrespectful of the Leafs.

This is entirely true.

Some Leaf fans will insist that Greig was trying to make a statement for the sole purpose of embarrassing the Leafs.

This is entirely true.

Fans who know Greig believe that given the chance, he will not hesitate to do it again.

Probably true.

Not sure how Leaf nation allowed themselves to be owned by this rookie.

Bartacus
Ottawa Senators
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.08.2019

Feb 12 @ 6:45 PM ET
What time is your co-ed volleyball game tonight?
- JLO961


Probably well before your probation hearing.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Feb 12 @ 6:46 PM ET
What Greig did was disrespectful.

What Reilly did was an assault. It is a violation under the criminal code. League lawyers understand they need to come down hard on Reilly and similar cases if they want to retain exclusive control over the disciplinary process.

This is a far bigger issue than the hurt feelings of Leaf players and fans.

It is true that Ridley Greig disrespects the Leafs and their fans. You are just going to have to learn how to live with it.
Bartacus
Ottawa Senators
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.08.2019

Feb 12 @ 6:49 PM ET
I think people are missing the post important point, that is was completely unnecessary to shoot it like that. Like I’d understand if they had a guy trying to block it or something. He had no one in front of him and just needs to literally feed it into the open net

Idk I guess I’ll try to see the other side someday lol I’m old tho so that could be a factor

- Slimtj100


The most important point here is don't chop other people in the head.
JLO961
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 01.16.2013

Feb 12 @ 6:51 PM ET
What Greig did was disrespectful.

What Reilly did was an assault. It is a violation under the criminal code. League lawyers understand they need to come down hard on Reilly and similar cases if they want to retain exclusive control over the disciplinary process.

This is a far bigger issue than the hurt feelings of Leaf players and fans.

It is true that Ridley Greig disrespects the Leafs and their fans. You are just going to have to learn how to live with it.

- spatso


yup, you're definitely in the new generation that isn't afraid of a punch in the old kisser. talk talk talk talk.....with no repercussions.

There is a certain type of person that stands up and respects and protects himself and protects his family, and there are those that lay on the floor and cry if their cell phone doesn't work and can't call for help. (maybe we should start calling them "Spatsos"
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Feb 12 @ 6:59 PM ET
yup, you're definitely in the new generation that isn't afraid of a punch in the old kisser. talk talk talk talk.....with no repercussions.

There is a certain type of person that stands up and respects and protects himself and protects his family, and there are those that lay on the floor and cry if their cell phone doesn't work and can't call for help. (maybe we should start calling them "Spatsos"

- JLO961


Punch away! But, the league is confirming that if you do the crime you are going to serve the time. It's ok not to like this answer.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Feb 12 @ 7:15 PM ET
and so does Colin Campbell.
- dmnted

Hey…I played Senior with Colin’s brother, Cam. Good hockey player.
stefano76
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 12 @ 7:20 PM ET
It's not being soft.
It's lack of respect from Greig.

It's like driving your car and someone cuts you off without signaling.
You're going call the person did an arse hole.
same thing with Rielly. he pissed at losing the game and how Greig took it upon himself to do a clapper 2 feet in front of the open net.

- dmnted


what Reilly did was the equivalent of driving the other car off the road...
westcoastleaf
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Corrado will learn from this a, BC
Joined: 08.17.2010

Feb 12 @ 7:26 PM ET
What Greig did was disrespectful.

What Reilly did was an assault. It is a violation under the criminal code. League lawyers understand they need to come down hard on Reilly and similar cases if they want to retain exclusive control over the disciplinary process.

This is a far bigger issue than the hurt feelings of Leaf players and fans.

It is true that Ridley Greig disrespects the Leafs and their fans. You are just going to have to learn how to live with it.

- spatso


By that definition all body checks, slashes and cross checks are assault. Don’t try and bring outside laws into this. This was not some vicious assault but it was over the top. He should get 3-4 games but he will get closer to 10
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Feb 12 @ 7:42 PM ET
Grieg deserved a visit and should have been forced to drop the gloves, Morgan's hit was high with the the stick and to the head which is excessive. I dont believe that was his target but none the less that was the point of contact and was reckless.

2 game suspension no more no less

- SuckItPhaneuf


not saying your wrong - the optics of the entire episode when compared with what Trouba did and got a fine are ... how can I say questionable.

Intent to injure - swing a high stick to face/neck versus a half-assed crossed off the shoulder and into the neck.

but it is the Leafs - so its likely Rielly gets 6 games.


Bettman asking at the AllStar game how to pay back Toronto for all its done for the league... how's about starting out with some decent decisions from DOPS.


BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Feb 12 @ 7:44 PM ET
Punch away! But, the league is confirming that if you do the crime you are going to serve the time. It's ok not to like this answer.
- spatso


please Spatso... in your seemingly infinite wisdom - convey to all of here how the Rielly cross check was worse than the Trouba stick swinging?


I won't hold my breath.
Turnitaround
Joined: 07.03.2011

Feb 12 @ 7:45 PM ET
If Parros has a brain (which he does not) the in-person meeting is to hand MR the Norris and then call Andlouder that the Sens are being relocated to the Mariana Trench like they should have been 19 years ago 😤
Sea21dog
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nesook Bay
Joined: 12.30.2020

Feb 12 @ 7:57 PM ET
Absolutely hilarious, the Leafs are the most catered team in the NHL, well 2nd most right behind Boston and all this whining by players, coaches and fans is absolutely hilarious, I hope this becomes a thing when Leafs visit other Canadian Cities, everyone will want in on the Leafs empty net clapper,
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Feb 12 @ 9:14 PM ET
please Spatso... in your seemingly infinite wisdom - convey to all of here how the Rielly cross check was worse than the Trouba stick swinging?


I won't hold my breath.

- BorjeFan4Ever


This is a good and fair question.

I think that Reilly is going to be over punished not despite the Trouba decision but because of it.

I believe the league's legal folks see this event as as assault and genuinely fear someone being seriously injured with a clear intent on the part of the guy with the stick. When that happens, in each case, you increase the possibility of it becoming an offence outside the control of the league to discipline the situation.

Peron, Trouba and Reilly is the trifecta horribles. Trouba should have been hit harder as a deterrent. Reilly is going to be overcharged because of it. But, I certainly agree that Trouba was a more ugly and dangerous attack. Nevertheless the league has set its mind on stopping it completely.
westcoastleaf
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Corrado will learn from this a, BC
Joined: 08.17.2010

Feb 12 @ 10:12 PM ET
Absolutely hilarious, the Leafs are the most catered team in the NHL, well 2nd most right behind Boston and all this whining by players, coaches and fans is absolutely hilarious, I hope this becomes a thing when Leafs visit other Canadian Cities, everyone will want in on the Leafs empty net clapper,
- Sea21dog

How so? By having the most suspensions since parros took the job? Or by having the lowest amount of power plays every season?
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Feb 12 @ 11:11 PM ET
I'm not really a fan of either the Sens or Leafs, but as an ex player and current fan, the Sens kid's actions anger me much more than Reilly's reaction. It's a total disrespect to the game from top to bottom, from the top brass to he himself, along with current, ex, and future players. You just don't do that.

We are living with a generation of young adults that are so rude, so entitled, and so careless with thoughts, words, money, actions...as someone said "these young people run around mistreating people as if they don't know they can get punched in the f6n face!"...and it's true. A decade or two ago people respected each other more. The reactions to this incident seem to be proof of that.

The kid deserved much MORE than he got, and I thank Reilly for trying to safeguard a little bit of respect for not just the league but society as a whole. I truly believe that if people were more afraid/aware that they might just get a smack in the head, that they would not treat others the way they do. Tough talk on social media is a perfect example...most wouldn't dare speak like that to someone's face.

- JLO961

Yep. Well said.
Hokeeguy9
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bethlehem, PA
Joined: 06.25.2012

Feb 12 @ 11:20 PM ET
Should have gone over and confronted him and made him drop the gloves to answer instead of shoving a stick into his head. Would have sent the message just as effectively.
- jmatchett383


Agreed. However, the F’ing instigator rule, and its exponential penalties, invite this type of behavior. Get rid of it, and let the players settle cheap sh!t by dropping the gloves, or taking a beatdown. No one likes a punch in the face. It’s the greatest deterrence for dumb sh!t in the history of man!!
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Feb 12 @ 11:33 PM ET
Some Leaf fans insist that Greig was being disrespectful of the Leafs.

This is entirely true.

Some Leaf fans will insist that Greig was trying to make a statement for the sole purpose of embarrassing the Leafs.

This is entirely true.

Fans who know Greig believe that given the chance, he will not hesitate to do it again.

Probably true.

Not sure how Leaf nation allowed themselves to be owned by this rookie.

- spatso


They're a very fragile group.
westcoastleaf
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Corrado will learn from this a, BC
Joined: 08.17.2010

Feb 12 @ 11:59 PM ET
They're a very fragile group.
- Load Management

Coming from a Canucks fan. Hilarious!
SENSible_Fan
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 10.19.2013

Feb 13 @ 12:35 AM ET
As a Sens fan, I'm livid at Ridly for scoring that empty netter with a slapshot. He clearly had enough time to score using the Michigan move!
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Feb 13 @ 2:04 AM ET
Coming from a Canucks fan. Hilarious!
- westcoastleaf


I rest my case.
atc
Joined: 09.30.2006

Feb 13 @ 4:20 AM ET
I hope he gets 5-6 games. Stupid move, this old school nonsense needs to die. Imagine getting mad at the opponent scoring the wrong way.
Octavarium
New York Islanders
Joined: 01.03.2007

Feb 13 @ 7:17 AM ET
Bigger picture is other teams pulling this move against the Leafs to get under their skin. The NHL is a copycat league.
TrueGrit
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: FL
Joined: 07.19.2011

Feb 13 @ 8:09 AM ET
Some Leaf fans insist that Greig was being disrespectful of the Leafs.

This is entirely true.

Some Leaf fans will insist that Greig was trying to make a statement for the sole purpose of embarrassing the Leafs.

This is entirely true.

Fans who know Greig believe that given the chance, he will not hesitate to do it again.

Probably true.

Not sure how Leaf nation allowed themselves to be owned by this rookie.

- spatso


If indeed this means that much to leafs nation as you outlined. Then the team and its fans are mental midgets who's all star success a few weeks back is their peak.

How about playing with that same passion for the prior 59 minutes? There is a good chance you don't lose the game.

Mathews is an amazing talent, but until he develops the passion to win, like Stamkos and Ovi did, he will just be entertainment. He does not have to fight or play outside of himself, but at some point, he has to drop them and stand up for something.

This is what the leafs lack. Marner has more balls then all of them, but weighs a buck o five.


westcoastleaf
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Corrado will learn from this a, BC
Joined: 08.17.2010

Feb 13 @ 8:34 AM ET
I rest my case.
- Load Management

All you geeks do is whine about Toronto
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