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Coach likes Allan a lot. I think he’ll push to have him on the team this season. Can’t possibly be worse than Murphy. - ObeseOprah
He will get a look because KD wants to see him get a taste of the NHL pace and level of competition.
Beyond that......Injuries is pretty much inherent so kids will get opportunities even after the team has added experienced players on the blue line. A cup of coffee insertion is the most likely situation but there could be various reasons why one or another dman gets recalled. But basicly it is who playing well or shown growth and reliable/steadiness .
Of course there is a difference in the style as well as the strength and weaknesses among the prospects but I suspect not so much their pro experience...more who is playing well is going to be the biggest criteria.
Then too we just do not know if only for one game a particular dman gets recalled or how much they play.. Even a Leveshenov could get one game just to show him the NHL challenge which he can see himself how he needs to keep improving at Rockford to receive a recall again.
Another development would be a certain style dman would be desirable for an indeterminate number of games if said recall dman can better replace the style of play from an injured veteran dman
Keep your nose to the grindstone, Mr Allen and like wiz said, a continual stretch of really strong monster games in the AHL gets KD's attention. |
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Young Dach falling off the radar as well. Health is an issue, but with his size and skill, wouldn't be surprised to see him establish himself as a solid bottom 6 guy - Hawkeynation
I think the complaint has been his feet.
Also 6'4 193 is what he is listed on the piggy site. I think that is less powerful then someone who is 5'10 and 185.
Even if he did make the NHL I'd expect him to spend a lot of time on his ass like his brother because he is not very big. Just tall and that doesn't do a whole lot for anyone. Especially if he's not quick or fast.
Completely unrelated the intro for the Bears hard knocks was incredible. Some great shots of the city and the Blues Brothers opening credits song was just brilliant. The NHL really needs to start copying some of this stuff.
Pretty telling comment that Caleb Williams is going to be the biggest thing in Chicago since Michael Jordan completely skipping over the 3 Stanley Cups. |
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totem
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Was just poking around the stats for goals to see what this year's team might do. Going by last year's stats (and pro-rating Hall, Athanasiou, and Murphy up to 70 games or so), this would be the projection:
Teravainen - 25
Bedard - 22
D!ckinson - 22
Bertuzzi - 21
Kurashev - 18
Foligno - 17
Hall - 14
Donato - 12
Mikheyev - 11
Smith - 11
Reichel - 5
Athanasiou - 4
Maroon - 4
Others - 5
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Jones - 8
Korchinski - 5
Murphy - 4
Martinez - 4
Vlasic - 2
Brodie - 1
Others - 0 (none of the young Dmen scored a goal last year, except KK)
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Total: 215
The 8th place teams last year scored around 260. Need 45 more goals.
Bedard - 10 more? (32)
Reichel - 10 more? (15)
Athanasiou + Nazar - 10 more? (15)
Jones - 5 more? - (13)
Mikheyev - 5 more? - (16)
Korchinski + #7 D (probably young guys) - 5 more? - (10)
I'm just kind of assuming that the 2C might be Athanasiou to start until Nazar is ready, that's why I put them together. 260 goals seems like a fairly long shot, but might be doable.
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rpeters01
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Was just poking around the stats for goals to see what this year's team might do. Going by last year's stats (and pro-rating Hall, Athanasiou, and Murphy up to 70 games or so), this would be the projection:
Teravainen - 25
Bedard - 22 (32)
D!ckinson - 22
Bertuzzi - 21
Kurashev - 18 (23)
Foligno - 17
Hall - 14 (19)
Donato - 12
Mikheyev - 11
Smith - 11
Reichel - 5 (15)
Athanasiou - 4 (19)
Maroon - 4
Others - 5
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Jones - 8
Korchinski - 5 (10)
Murphy - 4
Martinez - 4
Vlasic - 2 (5)
Brodie - 1
Others - 0 (none of the young Dmen scored a goal last year, except KK)
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Total: 215
The 8th place teams last year scored around 260. Need 45 more goals.
Bedard - 10 more? (32)
Reichel - 10 more? (15)
Athanasiou + Nazar - 10 more? (15)
Jones - 5 more? - (13)
Mikheyev - 5 more? - (16)
Korchinski + #7 D (probably young guys) - 5 more? - (10)
I'm just kind of assuming that the 2C might be Athanasiou to start until Nazar is ready, that's why I put them together. 260 goals seems like a fairly long shot, but might be doable. - totem
I would hope more like these numbers which is
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Was just poking around the stats for goals to see what this year's team might do. Going by last year's stats (and pro-rating Hall, Athanasiou, and Murphy up to 70 games or so), this would be the projection:
Teravainen - 25
Bedard - 22
D!ckinson - 22
Bertuzzi - 21
Kurashev - 18
Foligno - 17
Hall - 14
Donato - 12
Mikheyev - 11
Smith - 11
Reichel - 5
Athanasiou - 4
Maroon - 4
Others - 5
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Jones - 8
Korchinski - 5
Murphy - 4
Martinez - 4
Vlasic - 2
Brodie - 1
Others - 0 (none of the young Dmen scored a goal last year, except KK)
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Total: 215
The 8th place teams last year scored around 260. Need 45 more goals.
Bedard - 10 more? (32)
Reichel - 10 more? (15)
Athanasiou + Nazar - 10 more? (15)
Jones - 5 more? - (13)
Mikheyev - 5 more? - (16)
Korchinski + #7 D (probably young guys) - 5 more? - (10)
I'm just kind of assuming that the 2C might be Athanasiou to start until Nazar is ready, that's why I put them together. 260 goals seems like a fairly long shot, but might be doable. - totem
I think Bedard ends up around 40 and Bertuzzi if playing a full season or close to it probably around 30. Nazar in the 15 range.
Probably another 10 from the blue line in total with them being better overall. I think they'll be in the 240 to 250 range and in the middle-ish of the pack.
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Not one peep about the Hlinka tournament? 1st look at draft eligibles internationally in a best on best. ..... If interested check their site as tomorrow starts the knockout round.
Anyone watching have a thought?....... My way too early pick with TOR's late 1st the Hawks look hard at CZE's Dominik Pavlik. 6ft 1in 190 lb centerman was listed as CZE's 3C, kid was on the 2nd unit PP and 1st unit PK, feet seemed good, plays a heavy power game working the walls and slot, cruises and reads like a good Euro does off the puck.
Kid is playing jrs in Finland and has 52 international games at 17 yrs old for CZE tells me he's been well thought of for a long while. ........ Plays like a linebacker with free safety skills.
Wiz, see you chirping Spence. Question, who jumped out to you first in Erie, Spence or Scheafer? |
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Mr Ricochet
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Another tidbit I haven't seen posted. A couple weeks back it was announced that the KHL has been split away from the Russian Hockey Federation. ...... It's reported that is a great thing as it's the Federation that says who can or can't leave to play abroad and when.
Looking forward to this getting some more reporting on the split as the next draft nears. |
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wizardofi
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Another tidbit I haven't seen posted. A couple weeks back it was announced that the KHL has been split away from the Russian Hockey Federation. ...... It's reported that is a great thing as it's the Federation that says who can or can't leave to play abroad and when.
Looking forward to this getting some more reporting on the split as the next draft nears. - Mr Ricochet
And there may be a player transfer agreement between the KHL and the NHL. The RHF wanted nothing to do with the NHL.
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totem
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Not one peep about the Hlinka tournament? 1st look at draft eligibles internationally in a best on best. ..... If interested check their site as tomorrow starts the knockout round.
Anyone watching have a thought?....... My way too early pick with TOR's late 1st the Hawks look hard at CZE's Dominik Pavlik. 6ft 1in 190 lb centerman was listed as CZE's 3C, kid was on the 2nd unit PP and 1st unit PK, feet seemed good, plays a heavy power game working the walls and slot, cruises and reads like a good Euro does off the puck.
Kid is playing jrs in Finland and has 52 international games at 17 yrs old for CZE tells me he's been well thought of for a long while. ........ Plays like a linebacker with free safety skills.
Wiz, see you chirping Spence. Question, who jumped out to you first in Erie, Spence or Scheafer? - Mr Ricochet
Had no idea this was being televised but I see it is on NHL network tomorrow. Will try to grab a couple of beers and watch the semifinals.
Looks like the Swedes are really rolling up the points. Klingsell (Wiz #42), Gastrin (#30), and Stenberg. Looks like good games coming up.
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totem
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And there may be a player transfer agreement between the KHL and the NHL. The RHF wanted nothing to do with the NHL. - wizardofi
Will the Blackhawks lose their permanent ownership of the NHL rights to Shalunov, Kayumov, Nalimov, Vorobiev, Yakubov, etc.?
Overall sounds like good news if bringing players over is easier.
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Will the Blackhawks lose their permanent ownership of the NHL rights to Shalunov, Kayumov, Nalimov, Vorobiev, Yakubov, etc.?
Overall sounds like good news if bringing players over is easier. - totem
Or at least have a limited number of years before they become a free agent. Maybe even some kind of compensation like other European nations get for player development
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Mr Ricochet
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Had no idea this was being televised but I see it is on NHL network tomorrow. Will try to grab a couple of beers and watch the semifinals.
Looks like the Swedes are really rolling up the points. Klingsell (Wiz #42), Gastrin (#30), and Stenberg. Looks like good games coming up. - totem
The SWE v CAN game last night was excellent. Looked like SWE had no problem at all matching CAN's speed and skill and both squads were physical...... Liked what I've seen outa CZE. Lotta team speed playing a fun brand to watch. If you watch any CZE would love to hear your thoughts on Pavlik, plays center and wears #10.
I know you're a WHL guy so you don't see much OHL but when you watch CAN Dman Scheafer will jump out at you quick. Beautiful skater who might be the first Dman off the board this yr. He looks like the youngest draft eligible kid. |
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Or at least have a limited number of years before they become a free agent. Maybe even some kind of compensation like other European nations get for player development - wizardofi
Do you understand the split between the KHL and The Russian Federation will open the spigot so to speak allowing Russian players to play in the NHL?
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wizardofi
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Do you understand the split between the KHL and The Russian Federation will open the spigot so to speak allowing Russian players to play in the NHL? - Mr Ricochet
Yes, which is why we still have Shalunov's rights after drafting him in 2011. If there was a 4 year agreement on how long a team hid rights to a player, he could have became a free agent to sign with another NHL team. |
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Was just poking around the stats for goals to see what this year's team might do. Going by last year's stats (and pro-rating Hall, Athanasiou, and Murphy up to 70 games or so), this would be the projection:
Teravainen - 25
Bedard - 22
D!ckinson - 22
Bertuzzi - 21
Kurashev - 18
Foligno - 17
Hall - 14
Donato - 12
Mikheyev - 11
Smith - 11
Reichel - 5
Athanasiou - 4
Maroon - 4
Others - 5
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Jones - 8
Korchinski - 5
Murphy - 4
Martinez - 4
Vlasic - 2
Brodie - 1
Others - 0 (none of the young Dmen scored a goal last year, except KK)
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Total: 215
The 8th place teams last year scored around 260. Need 45 more goals.
Bedard - 10 more? (32)
Reichel - 10 more? (15)
Athanasiou + Nazar - 10 more? (15)
Jones - 5 more? - (13)
Mikheyev - 5 more? - (16)
Korchinski + #7 D (probably young guys) - 5 more? - (10)
I'm just kind of assuming that the 2C might be Athanasiou to start until Nazar is ready, that's why I put them together. 260 goals seems like a fairly long shot, but might be doable. - totem
If you think you are going to get 50 goals combined from these 3 players, you are being extremely over realistic IMO.
Of the 38 year old's Foligno 17 goals, 8 were on the power play. If with the adds Foligno sniffs any power play time, then the Hawks are not getting production from others.
Richardinson never had more than 9 goals . in his previous NHL experience including 5 full seasons. With Bertuzzi. Terravanin, and Mikhalev added, I pretty much see him more in a defensive role, and if he gets 15 goals I would consider that a win.
Is Craig Smith even going to make the opening roster? If he does it is probably 4th line right wing, with at least Terravanin, Kurashev ,Donato/Reichel ahead of him. If he gets 11 goals like last year, who is he taking the time from that you have penciled in to score?
The Hawks need big jumps in production from Bedard, with Teuvo and Bertuzzi getting close to the 30 goal mark for the Hawks to be near 250 GF IMO, along with increases in production elsewhere.
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Was just poking around the stats for goals to see what this year's team might do. Going by last year's stats (and pro-rating Hall, Athanasiou, and Murphy up to 70 games or so), this would be the projection:
Teravainen - 25
Bedard - 22
D!ckinson - 22
Bertuzzi - 21
Kurashev - 18
Foligno - 17
Hall - 14
Donato - 12
Mikheyev - 11
Smith - 11
Reichel - 5
Athanasiou - 4
Maroon - 4
Others - 5
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Jones - 8
Korchinski - 5
Murphy - 4
Martinez - 4
Vlasic - 2
Brodie - 1
Others - 0 (none of the young Dmen scored a goal last year, except KK)
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Total: 215
The 8th place teams last year scored around 260. Need 45 more goals.
Bedard - 10 more? (32)
Reichel - 10 more? (15)
Athanasiou + Nazar - 10 more? (15)
Jones - 5 more? - (13)
Mikheyev - 5 more? - (16)
Korchinski + #7 D (probably young guys) - 5 more? - (10)
I'm just kind of assuming that the 2C might be Athanasiou to start until Nazar is ready, that's why I put them together. 260 goals seems like a fairly long shot, but might be doable. - totem
Doubt if D!ckinson and Foligno pot 22 and 17 goals goals again. And injuries will take their toll. But, yes, there is more up front talent this season and hopefully Reichel wakes up, so 250 goals is the outside upper limit IMO.
The other side of the equation is goals against. I think that's just as important when determining a place in the standings. Last year ARI with 256 goals and 274 GA finished 6th from the bottom, while LA with 256 goals and 215 GA finished 9th from the top. Offense is exciting, but defense wins games.
I think the defense should improve with better back up goal tending and better veteran defensive depth. If the Hawks can improve their GA by 30 goals over last year and finish with 250GF and 260GA, they will likely land a 8 to 10 pick. |
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Was just poking around the stats for goals to see what this year's team might do. Going by last year's stats (and pro-rating Hall, Athanasiou, and Murphy up to 70 games or so), this would be the projection:
Teravainen - 25
Bedard - 22
D!ckinson - 22
Bertuzzi - 21
Kurashev - 18
Foligno - 17
Hall - 14
Donato - 12
Mikheyev - 11
Smith - 11
Reichel - 5
Athanasiou - 4
Maroon - 4
Others - 5
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Jones - 8
Korchinski - 5
Murphy - 4
Martinez - 4
Vlasic - 2
Brodie - 1
Others - 0 (none of the young Dmen scored a goal last year, except KK)
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Total: 215
The 8th place teams last year scored around 260. Need 45 more goals.
Bedard - 10 more? (32)
Reichel - 10 more? (15)
Athanasiou + Nazar - 10 more? (15)
Jones - 5 more? - (13)
Mikheyev - 5 more? - (16)
Korchinski + #7 D (probably young guys) - 5 more? - (10)
I'm just kind of assuming that the 2C might be Athanasiou to start until Nazar is ready, that's why I put them together. 260 goals seems like a fairly long shot, but might be doable. - totem
I think the Hawks will finish somewhere in the 20-25 range this season. They'd need a 25-30 point improvement, that seems like a lot but I think it's doable with the improved goaltending (Broissoit could be good for 10 points on his own), improved defense, improved offense and improved health (fingers crossed).
I'm still focusing on player develop, this season the growth of Korchinski, Vlasic and Bedard is key to the long-term success of the team. Can Kurashev maintain his 50 point pace? Will other rookies step up and make the roster at some point (i.e. Nazar, Levshunov, EDM, Allan, Kaiser)?
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DarthKane
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Doubt if D!ckinson and Foligno pot 22 and 17 goals goals again. And injuries will take their toll. But, yes, there is more up front talent this season and hopefully Reichel wakes up, so 250 goals is the outside upper limit IMO.
The other side of the equation is goals against. I think that's just as important when determining a place in the standings. Last year ARI with 256 goals and 274 GA finished 6th from the bottom, while LA with 256 goals and 215 GA finished 9th from the top. Offense is exciting, but defense wins games.
I think the defense should improve with better back up goal tending and better veteran defensive depth. If the Hawks can improve their GA by 30 goals over last year and finish with 250GF and 260GA, they will likely land a 8 to 10 pick. - boilermaker100
I think the team's goal output will increase significantly, but I would expect decreased output from D!ckinson and Foligno, a healthy Hall and AA (fingers cross), plus the additions of TT and Bertuzzi will allow #16 and #17 to focus on defense. I certainly hope Foligno (as much as I like him) doesn't have to play top line or PP minutes.
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I think the team's goal output will increase significantly, but I would expect decreased output from D!ckinson and Foligno, a healthy Hall and AA (fingers cross), plus the additions of TT and Bertuzzi will allow #16 and #17 to focus on defense. I certainly hope Foligno (as much as I like him) doesn't have to play top line or PP minutes. - DarthKane
D!ckinson will be a good 3rd line center, but I wouldn’t expect more than 12- 15 goals from him, although he may up his assists a bit. Foligno’s days as a NHL player are numbered, he will not come close to his point total or TOI from last year again. I’m also interested in what AA’s role will be this year, he seems to be one of those guys that only scores when he’s on a bad team. The Hawks will be in more games this year with their additions, and they will score more goals when is all said and done, and hopefully reduce their goals against as well. I’m really looking forward to this season, but no playoffs yet. |
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Two guys that I’d like to see sometime this season are Nazar and Hayes, but not necessarily out of training camp, especially Hayes. I could see Hayes on the team after the TDL, we’ll see. |
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D!ckinson will be a good 3rd line center, but I wouldn’t expect more than 12- 15 goals from him, although he may up his assists a bit. Foligno’s days as a NHL player are numbered, he will not come close to his point total or TOI from last year again. I’m also interested in what AA’s role will be this year, he seems to be one of those guys that only scores when he’s on a bad team. The Hawks will be in more games this year with their additions, and they will score more goals when is all said and done, and hopefully reduce their goals against as well. I’m really looking forward to this season, but no playoffs yet. - Angotti
Foligno is still valuable to the team, in the right role. He should be bottom 6, better yet a 4th liner. I am curious about AA's role too, some of it will depend on his health, but I could see him being in and out of the lineup. Is there anything buy-out window? I could see AA being bought out. The cap hit would be $2.75 million this year and $750K next season.
Bertuzzi - Bedard - Kurashev
Reichel - AA - TT
Hall - D!ckinson - Mikheyev
Foligno - Donato - Smith
Maroon
Anderson
If Bedard and Kurashev stick together I like the idea of them playing with Bertuzzi over TT to add some physicality to the line.
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Two guys that I’d like to see sometime this season are Nazar and Hayes, but not necessarily out of training camp, especially Hayes. I could see Hayes on the team after the TDL, we’ll see. - Angotti
I expect both guys to start in Rockford and get a call-up at some point in the season. I would think there's an outside change Nazar makes the team, but I suspect the team wants him to develop in Rockford for a while.
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Foligno is still valuable to the team, in the right role. He should be bottom 6, better yet a 4th liner. I am curious about AA's role too, some of it will depend on his health, but I could see him being in and out of the lineup. Is there anything buy-out window? I could see AA being bought out. The cap hit would be $2.75 million this year and $750K next season.
Bertuzzi - Bedard - Kurashev
Reichel - AA - TT
Hall - D!ckinson - Mikheyev
Foligno - Donato - Smith
Maroon
Anderson
If Bedard and Kurashev stick together I like the idea of them playing with Bertuzzi over TT to add some physicality to the line. - DarthKane
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Not one peep about the Hlinka tournament? 1st look at draft eligibles internationally in a best on best. ..... If interested check their site as tomorrow starts the knockout round.
Anyone watching have a thought?....... My way too early pick with TOR's late 1st the Hawks look hard at CZE's Dominik Pavlik. 6ft 1in 190 lb centerman was listed as CZE's 3C, kid was on the 2nd unit PP and 1st unit PK, feet seemed good, plays a heavy power game working the walls and slot, cruises and reads like a good Euro does off the puck.
Kid is playing jrs in Finland and has 52 international games at 17 yrs old for CZE tells me he's been well thought of for a long while. ........ Plays like a linebacker with free safety skills.
Wiz, see you chirping Spence. Question, who jumped out to you first in Erie, Spence or Scheafer? - Mr Ricochet
I am currently in Dyer, Indiana,but have scheduled all the Hlinka - Gretzky games to
tape.
It looks to me like you are poking my with a stick to jump in on the class 2025 when I was just telling my real world family that I was going to drop my commitment to doing this like I have been...although this year in Sweden with some good kids to watch (usually around noon games).
Now I am not gonna end up having my past writings (as run on and misspelled as they are) end up lumped with the ones I would be writing in the next four years as a steadily reach the point where my writings are what sounds like the a 78 yr. old's rambling w/o be a Presidential candidate. So you cannot expect me to jump in as deep in 2025.
To answer your first question, LW Malcolm Spence or LD Matthew Schaefer, understand I always try and place my draft favorites in the slots The Hawks are drafting near.
Matthew Schaefer has all the makings of a NHL two way defender and he is like #10 on my mock. Spence is getting that much love as i am given him, but they is so much I like about his on-ice demeanor and smarts, I am still looking for forwrds that can push into competing into top 6 roles.
You know what? I would be concerned if the drafted a defenseman early on in 2025, if that kid is better than the forwards.
My mock for next year is nowhere near much movement now but I placed Dominik Pavlik, in the Maple Leaf draft slot, even though I truly believe the Blackhawks like a goaltender. a lot, and may splurge there in the third part of the first. That is your first rounder...Totem you got someone you want in the 2025 first round?
I think the Hlinka tourney is one of the best indicators OF good junior talent.
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Foligno is still valuable to the team, in the right role. He should be bottom 6, better yet a 4th liner. I am curious about AA's role too, some of it will depend on his health, but I could see him being in and out of the lineup. Is there anything buy-out window? I could see AA being bought out. The cap hit would be $2.75 million this year and $750K next season.
Bertuzzi - Bedard - Kurashev
Reichel - AA - TT
Hall - D!ckinson - Mikheyev
Foligno - Donato - Smith
Maroon
Anderson
If Bedard and Kurashev stick together I like the idea of them playing with Bertuzzi over TT to add some physicality to the line. - DarthKane
Those forward lines look so much better than last year.
The defensive pairings look so much better as well.
We'll see how it translates to wins and losses.
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