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Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
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Aug 29 @ 11:54 AM ET
Can't not bolieve Ott ahead of Habs
- AGalchenyuk27




how come the list I'm seeing only starts with NSH? lol



edit: wait, now I'm getting this, but not the teams ranked before that lol

prospect-ranking2
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
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Aug 29 @ 11:58 AM ET

- AGalchenyuk27

Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Aug 29 @ 12:11 PM ET
oh, I hadn't considered Pezzetta and Heineman, and I completely forgot about Barré-Boulet lol. I think it's already understood that Pezzetta and Barré-Boulet won't be in the lineup every night, and at 22 years old it wouldn't be too bad for Heineman to get more minutes with the Rocket for the time being, as he doesn't need to clear waivers.

but yeah, there's a lot to consider there, hopefully there will be enough positive performances out of the pre-season to sort things out, instead of going with "who sucks less" lol...

- Pat1993


I expect one of them to be the 13th forward the other probably the first call up of injuries.

Not sure which ones gets what role.
Mashadar
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Aug 29 @ 12:14 PM ET
for a 4.5M cap hit though teams will want to know what kind of season he's having, he surely doesn't have much value as we speak, if any.
- Pat1993


It is not only the cap hit, but he has averaged less than 50 games played a year, over the last 4 years. Does a team want to trade for him now or wait 'til deadline to see if he is still healthy - cap considerations aside?

Trading Dvorak now solves a lot of problems. Worse case scenario he is gone by the TDL (or next summer, with 3-4 other guys).

I would like them to make room to see if Roy can be the real deal or not, rather than him stuck on the 4th line....
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
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Aug 29 @ 12:16 PM ET
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5712495/2024/08/26/nhl-pipeline-rankings-2024-prospects/

Habs #6

- AGalchenyuk27


Depending on the criteria used for these, Habs usually comfortably sitting in the top 5 of most organizational prospect lists.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
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Aug 29 @ 12:25 PM ET
It is not only the cap hit, but he has averaged less than 50 games played a year, over the last 4 years. Does a team want to trade for him now or wait 'til deadline to see if he is still healthy - cap considerations aside?

Trading Dvorak now solves a lot of problems. Worse case scenario he is gone by the TDL (or next summer, with 3-4 other guys).

I would like them to make room to see if Roy can be the real deal or not, rather than him stuck on the 4th line....

- Mashadar



yup, but as you've pointed out yourself it's unlikely to happen now. the habs will surely be continuing to assign spots on the roster based on merit, so whatever works I'll be happy with... Roy will definitely get his chance, it would be silly not to give him one.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
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Aug 29 @ 12:30 PM ET
yup, but as you've pointed out yourself it's unlikely to happen now. the habs will surely be continuing to assign spots on the roster based on merit, so whatever works I'll be happy with... Roy will definitely get his chance, it would be silly not to give him one.
- Pat1993

next year they'll have plenty of room for Roy. Armia, Dvorak, Evans, Pezzetta... will all be gone.
welcome to Montreal Demidov and Roy!
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
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Aug 29 @ 12:33 PM ET
next year they'll have plenty of room for Roy. Armia, Dvorak, Evans, Pezzetta... will all be gone.
welcome to Montreal Demidov and Roy!

- fidopro




now that guy should be an interesting addition to the team... tabarnak!
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
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Aug 29 @ 12:45 PM ET
now that guy should be an interesting addition to the team... tabarnak!
- Pat1993

In a year...as a CENTRE (for Symba)
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
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Aug 29 @ 12:48 PM ET
In a year...as a CENTRE (for Symba)
- AdamFrench



not sure about his experience/usefulness at the center position but I don't think he'll be needed there with the habs lol...

anyway I'll let others debate where he should play, I just want to see the mofo make some plays and score some goals.
Mashadar
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Aug 29 @ 12:49 PM ET
next year they'll have plenty of room for Roy. Armia, Dvorak, Evans, Pezzetta... will all be gone.
welcome to Montreal Demidov and Roy!

- fidopro


Plus all the cap space to maybe lock up a few players, with those guys (above) gone + Petry and Allen off the books too. And if Laine does not seem to work out (or worse, wants a poopload of money), that is another potential big cap hit off the books in 2 years, when they might want to use it even more.

HuGo have set themselves up to be in a really good place... cap wise and talent pool wise.

So impressed.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
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Aug 29 @ 12:51 PM ET
Plus all the cap space to maybe lock up a few players, with those guys (above) gone + Petry and Allen off the books too. And if Laine does not seem to work out (or worse, wants a poopload of money), that is another potential big cap hit off the books in 2 years, when they might want to use it even more.

HuGo have set themselves up to be in a really good place... cap wise and talent pool wise.

So impressed.

- Mashadar



actually if he's asking for too much money but he's doing well it wouldn't be the worst, as he would have some trade value to be flipped.
Mashadar
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Aug 29 @ 12:51 PM ET
not sure about his experience/usefulness at the center position but I don't think he'll be needed there with the habs lol...

anyway I'll let others debate where he should play, I just want to see the mofo make some plays and score some goals.

- Pat1993


I would be OK with having a problem of too many competent and prolific scoring centers.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
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Aug 29 @ 12:53 PM ET
I would be OK with having a problem of too many competent and prolific scoring centers.
- Mashadar



yup, centers can play wing but the opposite isn't necessarily true, you can never have too many good centers.
Mashadar
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Aug 29 @ 12:54 PM ET
actually if he's asking for too much money but he's doing well it wouldn't be the worst, as he would have some trade value to be flipped.
- Pat1993


Yeah, just mean (and I am tired, been up for almost 30 hours working, so perhaps I did not make it clear), the Habs would have the cap room to keep him or replace him.

It would be a decision of whether they want to play him $X dollars or not (or if they can find something better), not the cap would screwed them from doing it.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
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Aug 29 @ 12:56 PM ET
Yeah, just mean (and I am tired, been up for almost 30 hours working, so perhaps I did not make it clear), the Habs would have the cap room to keep him or replace him.

It would be a decision of whether they want to play him $X dollars or not (or if they can find something better), not the cap would screwed them from doing it.

- Mashadar



who knows, he could be the first hab since Vincent Damphouse to score 40 goals.



holy (frank) it's been a long time, jebus.
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
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Aug 29 @ 1:24 PM ET
Damn, this site has fallen so low that even Scabeh is writing blogs for the Habs right now ?





(Good blog btw)
Mashadar
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Aug 29 @ 1:43 PM ET
who knows, he could be the first hab since Vincent Damphouse to score 40 goals.



holy (frank) it's been a long time, jebus.

- Pat1993


Patches had 39 one year, I think 38 too.

But yeah, a long time.

I still think this is a win either way that trade breaks, I think... I feel Laine can still put up points, but is he a 35+ goal / 70-80pts guy still? Does he play 70+ games?

That is the real question.

I set my expectations to about 25g + 25A - if he beats that, then good. If he does just that, I am fine with it and consider the trade a win (but not a long-term solution in the top 6).
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
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Aug 29 @ 1:47 PM ET
who knows, he could be the first hab since Vincent Damphouse to score 40 goals.



holy (frank) it's been a long time, jebus.

- Pat1993

I don't expect much from Laine for the upcoming season tbh. if he plays 50 games I'll be happy. the bar is low. so how many goals? I don't care.
the following season though it will be different. contract year, then he'll have a big season. 40+ goals
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
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Aug 29 @ 1:49 PM ET
Patches had 39 one year, I think 38 too.

But yeah, a long time.

I still think this is a win either way that trade breaks, I think... I feel Laine can still put up points, but is he a 35+ goal / 70-80pts guy still? Does he play 70+ games?

That is the real question.

I set my expectations to about 25g + 25A - if he beats that, then good. If he does just that, I am fine with it and consider the trade a win (but not a long-term solution in the top 6).

- Mashadar



not sure about his exact medical history and the probabilities of re-injuring himself, but if Laine stays healthy, in a new environment, with a new coach and with the tools he's acquired to deal with his personal issues, I think the potential is definitely there for him to at least reach the 70pts mark, which most certainly would be a win.

and even if it does fail miserably for some reason, I wouldn't blame Hughes for trying it out, as it barely cost anything except for an extra dman and some cap space over the span of 2 years.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
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Aug 29 @ 1:51 PM ET
I don't expect much from Laine for the upcoming season tbh. if he plays 50 games I'll be happy. the bar is low. so how many goals? I don't care.
the following season though it will be different. contract year, then he'll have a big season. 40+ goals

- fidopro


I get that, but I have the feeling he'll be motivated right out the gate, I don't think he'll want to wait until that contract year to start dishing out some goals.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
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Aug 29 @ 1:52 PM ET
I get that, but I have the feeling he'll be motivated right out the gate, I don't think he'll want to wait until that contract year to start dishing out some goals.
- Pat1993

I hope you are right
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
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Aug 29 @ 1:53 PM ET
I get that, but I have the feeling he'll be motivated right out the gate, I don't think he'll want to wait until that contract year to start dishing out some goals.
- Pat1993


I also think he'll have a good season.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
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Aug 29 @ 2:00 PM ET
I also think he'll have a good season.
- BashCH






tout le monde va se mettre une ptite laine su'l dos pour aller au centre Bell.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
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Aug 29 @ 2:00 PM ET
not sure about his exact medical history and the probabilities of re-injuring himself, but if Laine stays healthy, in a new environment, with a new coach and with the tools he's acquired to deal with his personal issues, I think the potential is definitely there for him to at least reach the 70pts mark, which most certainly would be a win.

and even if it does fail miserably for some reason, I wouldn't blame Hughes for trying it out, as it barely cost anything except for an extra dman and some cap space over the span of 2 years.

- Pat1993


Yeah, that is pretty much why I call it a win, regardless... worse case scenario you wasted cap space they were not using.

But I think he will be motivated to play hard... injuries might be the big factor in all of this.
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