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mr.peanut
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Generational Poster, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Sep 1 @ 3:23 PM ET
well if you're saying it was rigged I guess that means the computer was manipulated by someone in order to get those results..?
- Pat1993

The old BCS was weird, it was a computer, a committee and writer polls. It really made no sense.

But I think I should provide some context on the 2011 situation. Alabama and Louisiana State (LSU) both play in the West division of the SEC (there are several conferences in college football). Being in the same division, they played in the regular season with LSU winning. Season happens, a lot of top teams lose. LSU finishes undefeated and wins their conference championship and Alabama finishes with one loss and cannot compete for the conference title (sec East vs sec West).

After all the conference championship games there is a lot of mystery on who will play LSU for the national championship. The BCS releases it's rankings and inexplicably has LSU #1 and Alabama #2. They play in the worst National championship game ever with Alabama winning. NCAA basically throws their hands up and admits the system is too flawed and so they implemented a playoff system to start a few years later.

It's important to note that the computer's formula to rank teams was kept a secret.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Sep 1 @ 3:31 PM ET
The old BCS was weird, it was a computer, a committee and writer polls. It really made no sense.

But I think I should provide some context on the 2011 situation. Alabama and Louisiana State (LSU) both play in the West division of the SEC (there are several conferences in college football). Being in the same division, they played in the regular season with LSU winning. Season happens, a lot of top teams lose. LSU finishes undefeated and wins their conference championship and Alabama finishes with one loss and cannot compete for the conference title (sec East vs sec West).

After all the conference championship games there is a lot of mystery on who will play LSU for the national championship. The BCS releases it's rankings and inexplicably has LSU #1 and Alabama #2. They play in the worst National championship game ever with Alabama winning. NCAA basically throws their hands up and admits the system is too flawed and so they implemented a playoff system to start a few years later.

It's important to note that the computer's formula to rank teams was kept a secret.

- mr.peanut

didn't they recently put them in the 4 team playoff part ahead of some other team that deserved it more? or am i thining of something else?
mr.peanut
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Generational Poster, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Sep 1 @ 3:36 PM ET
didn't they recently put them in the 4 team playoff part ahead of some other team that deserved it more? or am i thining of something else?
- kicksave856

Yes. Last year Florida State went undefeated and won the ACC, however their #1 and 2 QBs got hurt, so the playoffs committee kept them off because they viewed FSU as not one of the best 4 teams with injuries considered.

Also, Georgia went undefeated and lost the sec championship game, so they were left out too (they had a bunch of injuries, but those players would have been ready for the playoffs). And absolutely murdered FSU in the Orange Bowl (5 vs 6).

Both teams had legit beefs, but now it'll be 12 teams in the playoffs
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Sep 1 @ 3:39 PM ET
Yes. Last year Florida State went undefeated and won the ACC, however their #1 and 2 QBs got hurt, so the playoffs committee kept them off because they viewed FSU as not one of the best 4 teams with injuries considered.

Also, Georgia went undefeated and lost the sec championship game, so they were left out too (they had a bunch of injuries, but those players would have been ready for the playoffs). And absolutely murdered FSU in the Orange Bowl (5 vs 6).

Both teams had legit beefs, but now it'll be 12 teams in the playoffs

- mr.peanut

college football has too many shenanigans for me.




*looks at one dollar bets on tonight's game*
mr.peanut
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Joined: 12.18.2011

Sep 1 @ 3:42 PM ET
college football has too many shenanigans for me.




*looks at one dollar bets on tonight's game*

- kicksave856

The big problem is valuing the voter polls. Oh Dale of the Biloxi Times Herald thing ole miss is a number 1 team, well guess what? That will influence their ranking and inflate the records of the teams who beat them
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 09.29.2005

Sep 1 @ 3:45 PM ET
The big problem is valuing the voter polls. Oh Dale of the Biloxi Times Herald thing ole miss is a number 1 team, well guess what? That will influence their ranking and inflate the records of the teams who beat them
- mr.peanut

classic dale.

i do like his beer though.
mr.peanut
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Sep 1 @ 3:46 PM ET
classic dale.

i do like his beer though.

- kicksave856

"Go Rebels"
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
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Sep 1 @ 3:47 PM ET
"Go Rebels"
- mr.peanut

the can is even their colors.
mr.peanut
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Sep 1 @ 3:51 PM ET
the can is even their colors.
- kicksave856

University of NFL great, Eli Manning.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
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Sep 1 @ 3:54 PM ET
University of NFL great, Eli Manning.
- mr.peanut

do i remember watching him in an 8 OT game or some crazy poop?
mr.peanut
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Sep 1 @ 3:55 PM ET
do i remember watching him in an 8 OT game or some crazy poop?
- kicksave856

Possible. also possible that he threw 8 ints
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Sep 1 @ 4:07 PM ET
The old BCS was weird, it was a computer, a committee and writer polls. It really made no sense.

But I think I should provide some context on the 2011 situation. Alabama and Louisiana State (LSU) both play in the West division of the SEC (there are several conferences in college football). Being in the same division, they played in the regular season with LSU winning. Season happens, a lot of top teams lose. LSU finishes undefeated and wins their conference championship and Alabama finishes with one loss and cannot compete for the conference title (sec East vs sec West).

After all the conference championship games there is a lot of mystery on who will play LSU for the national championship. The BCS releases it's rankings and inexplicably has LSU #1 and Alabama #2. They play in the worst National championship game ever with Alabama winning. NCAA basically throws their hands up and admits the system is too flawed and so they implemented a playoff system to start a few years later.

It's important to note that the computer's formula to rank teams was kept a secret.

- mr.peanut


woah, I was not expecting this level of detail lol. I don't even know what "BCS" actually stands for but this all sounds very odd to me, mainly because transparency regarding the algorithm and the parameters being used shouldn't be an issue, as such things being kept secret can only exacerbate doubt and suspicion, especially when we're talking about sports at a high level.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Sep 1 @ 4:09 PM ET
classic dale.

i do like his beer though.

- kicksave856


it's not a bad-looking can, but I find it concerning because it also reminds me of Pabst beer, which is (frank)ing awful.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Sep 1 @ 4:10 PM ET
do i remember watching him in an 8 OT game or some crazy poop?
- kicksave856


there can be multiple overtimes in football..? well I'll be damned.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Sep 1 @ 4:12 PM ET
Possible. also possible that he threw 8 ints
- mr.peanut

kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Sep 1 @ 4:13 PM ET
it's not a bad-looking can, but I find it concerning because it also reminds me of Pabst beer, which is (frank)ing awful.
- Pat1993

it costs too much to be like pabst

Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Sep 1 @ 4:19 PM ET
it costs too much to be like pabst
- kicksave856


ok, good. not that it's very hard to beat, it doesn't even need to taste all that great to still be better than that blue ribbon bullpoop lol.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Sep 1 @ 4:28 PM ET
ok, good. not that it's very hard to beat, it doesn't even need to taste all that great to still be better than that blue ribbon bullpoop lol.
- Pat1993

for a while around here, if you were super hipster, you found a more obscure version of what tastes like a pretty similar experience. narragansett.



pretty serious with themselves with the tagline.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Sep 1 @ 4:45 PM ET
for a while around here, if you were super hipster, you found a more obscure version of what tastes like a pretty similar experience. narragansett.



pretty serious with themselves with the tagline.

- kicksave856



"sold on merit", it's like they're talking about the pride and excellence of young talent on a pro sports team, jfc.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Sep 1 @ 5:10 PM ET
I've recently discovered the best Polish video game ever made, Franko - The Crazy Revenge, for the Amiga...



it's violent AF, and very awesome lol.
mr.peanut
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Generational Poster, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Sep 1 @ 5:14 PM ET
woah, I was not expecting this level of detail lol. I don't even know what "BCS" actually stands for but this all sounds very odd to me, mainly because transparency regarding the algorithm and the parameters being used shouldn't be an issue, as such things being kept secret can only exacerbate doubt and suspicion, especially when we're talking about sports at a high level.
- Pat1993

Bowl Championship Series. It replaced an even more confusing system to crown a consensus national champion. And even then there were times with co-champions
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Sep 1 @ 5:23 PM ET
Bowl Championship Series. It replaced an even more confusing system to crown a consensus national champion. And even then there were times with co-champions
- mr.peanut


I already have an extremely limited understanding of the sport, so I feel this is something I wouldn't even try to follow, (frank) that lol.
mr.peanut
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Generational Poster, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Sep 1 @ 5:28 PM ET
I already have an extremely limited understanding of the sport, so I feel this is something I wouldn't even try to follow, (frank) that lol.
- Pat1993

Everything is pretty good, they have a playoff now.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Sep 1 @ 5:30 PM ET
Everything is pretty good, they have a playoff now.
- mr.peanut


*stays uninterested, and anxiously waits for the (frank)ing puck to drop already*
mr.peanut
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Generational Poster, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Sep 1 @ 5:47 PM ET
*stays uninterested, and anxiously waits for the (frank)ing puck to drop already*
- Pat1993

Become emotional invested with the Akron Zips
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